I have a question about guns

brianlux said:

Excuse my ignorance in the matter but, regarding images of tweets we see fairly often in these threads, how do we know they are real.  I mean, they can be easily faked, right?  I'm guessing it happens often.  Yes? No?

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

Excuse my ignorance in the matter but, regarding images of tweets we see fairly often in these threads, how do we know they are real.  I mean, they can be easily faked, right?  I'm guessing it happens often.  Yes? No?

All it takes to confirm they're real is to go on Twitter and check if the Tweet exists. And if it's been deleted, there are plenty of mainstream media sources that you can trust about whether or not a Tweet is real. But good job Brian for asking, because as it turns out, this Tweet was NOT real... I forgot to check!
But my comments about these kinds of comments still stands.

brianlux said:

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

Excuse my ignorance in the matter but, regarding images of tweets we see fairly often in these threads, how do we know they are real.  I mean, they can be easily faked, right?  I'm guessing it happens often.  Yes? No?

All it takes to confirm they're real is to go on Twitter and check if the Tweet exists. And if it's been deleted, there are plenty of mainstream media sources that you can trust about whether or not a Tweet is real. But good job Brian for asking, because as it turns out, this Tweet was NOT real... I forgot to check!
But my comments about these kinds of comments still stands.

It's the skeptic in me!  I stand by Lou Reed's words:  "You can't believe half of what you see and none of what you hear." 

Not to distract too much from the subject at hand (because, lord knows, we rarely have threads about guns on AMT), but I get the feeling that one result of social media and internet "news" is that we are living in a world fraught with false information.  Sometimes I have to ask, WTF is really going on in the world?  Is it all smoke an mirrors and deception? 

Oh how wearisome to be such a cynic!  Sorry!

tbergs said:

The Behar tweet is fake. Please do some research before you post such things to try and prove "both sides".

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/joy-behar-trump-tower-fire/

oftenreading said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

oftenreading said:

PJ_Soul said:

oftenreading said:

mcgruff10 said:

Kev - Coat and Keys said:

Anyone following the Laura Ingraham story over the last couple of weeks will know the American right doesn't understand the first amendment, so why do you assume they get the second correct?

Also America 'deserving' guns ain't working out for you, try changing that?

The left sometimes doesn’t understand the first amendment either:

That's a crappy thing to tweet, but what about it demonstrates that "the left" doesn't understand the first amendment?

It was a "crappy" think to tweet just for herself I guess. More stupid than crappy really ... I mean... it's honest. I think a LOT of people would be glad if they woke up to the news of Trump's death (just saying Kat, not wishing death upon anyone here! ). I guess it's just a matter of attitude. I have noticed that a lot of people are conditioned to get really offended any time someone says anything about hoping someone is dead. They think it's just horrific. But since such thoughts have literally no impact on anything, and it's just thoughts, I personally don't find it offensive. I also think people have such thoughts (not just about Trump) a lot more often than they are willing to admit. I also think that plenty of people will feign offense because that is what they're supposed to do, when inside they really were kinda thinking the same thing. But anyway, anyone is an idiot for tweeting anything about the POTUS dying. It never goes well. One has to wonder how Joy Behar thought that was anything other than a terrible idea.

Well, you know.... part of a civilized society is that we don't voice every thought that pops into our heads, justified or not. 

Fine, but that doesn't mean everyone has to pretend to be offended by it.

I agree. I have been skewered in the past by voicing my truth about someone who has passed away. not that I wished for their death, just that I....um.....wasn't particularly saddened by it. 

I think there's a difference between not being saddened by the news that someone died, and saying "hey, I hope this person I don't like dies!" In my opinion, that's in pretty poor taste, no matter who it is. 

oftenreading said:

mace1229 said:

Smellyman said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

mace1229 said:

Kev - Coat and Keys said:

Anyone following the Laura Ingraham story over the last couple of weeks will know the American right doesn't understand the first amendment, so why do you assume they get the second correct?

Also America 'deserving' guns ain't working out for you, try changing that?

I don’t follow her story because I don’t like her. But what makes you think she’s the spokeswoman for the right?

Do you think that she’s not? 

It's like when people say 'why don't Muslim leaders speak out against terrorism more and stand up to crazy fundamentalists'.  The entire right wing mouthpieces are crazies at fox, breitbart, infowars and so much more psycho sources, but they won't speak out against them because that is actually what they watch and where they get their 'news'.  Or internet memes.

So now your comparing Laura Ingraham to Muslim Terrorists? Why do we need to speak out against her? Does the left speak out against anything crazy they talk about on The View?   They’ve said some weird stuff on that show, but t I don’t consider them spokeswomen for anyone.
funny how you think all conservatives watch only fox and bow down to anyone on that channel. Not really accurate, when you consider that 3 million views is a big night for that program and roughly half the country is conservative.

Yeah, she’s a spokesperson for the right. Has been for a long time. Her television show is by no means her only area of influence, and probably not the largest one. 

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/lifestyle/style/laura-ingraham-was-trump-before-trump-but-is-she-made-for-tv/2017/10/24/d1481916-b50e-11e7-9e58-e6288544af98_story.html

PJ_Soul said:

oftenreading said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

oftenreading said:

PJ_Soul said:

oftenreading said:

mcgruff10 said:

Kev - Coat and Keys said:

Anyone following the Laura Ingraham story over the last couple of weeks will know the American right doesn't understand the first amendment, so why do you assume they get the second correct?

Also America 'deserving' guns ain't working out for you, try changing that?

The left sometimes doesn’t understand the first amendment either:

That's a crappy thing to tweet, but what about it demonstrates that "the left" doesn't understand the first amendment?

It was a "crappy" think to tweet just for herself I guess. More stupid than crappy really ... I mean... it's honest. I think a LOT of people would be glad if they woke up to the news of Trump's death (just saying Kat, not wishing death upon anyone here! ). I guess it's just a matter of attitude. I have noticed that a lot of people are conditioned to get really offended any time someone says anything about hoping someone is dead. They think it's just horrific. But since such thoughts have literally no impact on anything, and it's just thoughts, I personally don't find it offensive. I also think people have such thoughts (not just about Trump) a lot more often than they are willing to admit. I also think that plenty of people will feign offense because that is what they're supposed to do, when inside they really were kinda thinking the same thing. But anyway, anyone is an idiot for tweeting anything about the POTUS dying. It never goes well. One has to wonder how Joy Behar thought that was anything other than a terrible idea.

Well, you know.... part of a civilized society is that we don't voice every thought that pops into our heads, justified or not. 

Fine, but that doesn't mean everyone has to pretend to be offended by it.

I agree. I have been skewered in the past by voicing my truth about someone who has passed away. not that I wished for their death, just that I....um.....wasn't particularly saddened by it. 

I think there's a difference between not being saddened by the news that someone died, and saying "hey, I hope this person I don't like dies!" In my opinion, that's in pretty poor taste, no matter who it is. 

Yeah, but why should it matter if it's in poor taste? So what? It's the same with everyone being offended all the time... SO WHAT?

oftenreading said:

PJ_Soul said:

oftenreading said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

oftenreading said:

PJ_Soul said:

oftenreading said:

mcgruff10 said:

Kev - Coat and Keys said:

Anyone following the Laura Ingraham story over the last couple of weeks will know the American right doesn't understand the first amendment, so why do you assume they get the second correct?

Also America 'deserving' guns ain't working out for you, try changing that?

The left sometimes doesn’t understand the first amendment either:

That's a crappy thing to tweet, but what about it demonstrates that "the left" doesn't understand the first amendment?

It was a "crappy" think to tweet just for herself I guess. More stupid than crappy really ... I mean... it's honest. I think a LOT of people would be glad if they woke up to the news of Trump's death (just saying Kat, not wishing death upon anyone here! ). I guess it's just a matter of attitude. I have noticed that a lot of people are conditioned to get really offended any time someone says anything about hoping someone is dead. They think it's just horrific. But since such thoughts have literally no impact on anything, and it's just thoughts, I personally don't find it offensive. I also think people have such thoughts (not just about Trump) a lot more often than they are willing to admit. I also think that plenty of people will feign offense because that is what they're supposed to do, when inside they really were kinda thinking the same thing. But anyway, anyone is an idiot for tweeting anything about the POTUS dying. It never goes well. One has to wonder how Joy Behar thought that was anything other than a terrible idea.

Well, you know.... part of a civilized society is that we don't voice every thought that pops into our heads, justified or not. 

Fine, but that doesn't mean everyone has to pretend to be offended by it.

I agree. I have been skewered in the past by voicing my truth about someone who has passed away. not that I wished for their death, just that I....um.....wasn't particularly saddened by it. 

I think there's a difference between not being saddened by the news that someone died, and saying "hey, I hope this person I don't like dies!" In my opinion, that's in pretty poor taste, no matter who it is. 

Yeah, but why should it matter if it's in poor taste? So what? It's the same with everyone being offended all the time... SO WHAT?

Because the world just keeps getting more and more vile, the more that people don't care that they are saying things that are in poor taste. 

It's like that guy (we all know one) who says whatever the hell insulting stuff he wants, and justifies it by saying "I just call it the way I see it". Yeah, that's true, and the attitude makes him a jerk. The world is better when we don't say every stupid thing that pops into our heads. 

oftenreading said:

PJ_Soul said:

oftenreading said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

oftenreading said:

PJ_Soul said:

oftenreading said:

mcgruff10 said:

Kev - Coat and Keys said:

Anyone following the Laura Ingraham story over the last couple of weeks will know the American right doesn't understand the first amendment, so why do you assume they get the second correct?

Also America 'deserving' guns ain't working out for you, try changing that?

The left sometimes doesn’t understand the first amendment either:

That's a crappy thing to tweet, but what about it demonstrates that "the left" doesn't understand the first amendment?

It was a "crappy" think to tweet just for herself I guess. More stupid than crappy really ... I mean... it's honest. I think a LOT of people would be glad if they woke up to the news of Trump's death (just saying Kat, not wishing death upon anyone here! ). I guess it's just a matter of attitude. I have noticed that a lot of people are conditioned to get really offended any time someone says anything about hoping someone is dead. They think it's just horrific. But since such thoughts have literally no impact on anything, and it's just thoughts, I personally don't find it offensive. I also think people have such thoughts (not just about Trump) a lot more often than they are willing to admit. I also think that plenty of people will feign offense because that is what they're supposed to do, when inside they really were kinda thinking the same thing. But anyway, anyone is an idiot for tweeting anything about the POTUS dying. It never goes well. One has to wonder how Joy Behar thought that was anything other than a terrible idea.

Well, you know.... part of a civilized society is that we don't voice every thought that pops into our heads, justified or not. 

Fine, but that doesn't mean everyone has to pretend to be offended by it.

I agree. I have been skewered in the past by voicing my truth about someone who has passed away. not that I wished for their death, just that I....um.....wasn't particularly saddened by it. 

I think there's a difference between not being saddened by the news that someone died, and saying "hey, I hope this person I don't like dies!" In my opinion, that's in pretty poor taste, no matter who it is. 

Yeah, but why should it matter if it's in poor taste? So what? It's the same with everyone being offended all the time... SO WHAT?

Because the world just keeps getting more and more vile, the more that people don't care that they are saying things that are in poor taste. 

It's like that guy (we all know one) who says whatever the hell insulting stuff he wants, and justifies it by saying "I just call it the way I see it". Yeah, that's true, and the attitude makes him a jerk. The world is better when we don't say every stupid thing that pops into our heads. 

PJ_Soul said:

oftenreading said:

PJ_Soul said:

oftenreading said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

oftenreading said:

PJ_Soul said:

oftenreading said:

mcgruff10 said:

Kev - Coat and Keys said:

Anyone following the Laura Ingraham story over the last couple of weeks will know the American right doesn't understand the first amendment, so why do you assume they get the second correct?

Also America 'deserving' guns ain't working out for you, try changing that?

The left sometimes doesn’t understand the first amendment either:

That's a crappy thing to tweet, but what about it demonstrates that "the left" doesn't understand the first amendment?

It was a "crappy" think to tweet just for herself I guess. More stupid than crappy really ... I mean... it's honest. I think a LOT of people would be glad if they woke up to the news of Trump's death (just saying Kat, not wishing death upon anyone here! ). I guess it's just a matter of attitude. I have noticed that a lot of people are conditioned to get really offended any time someone says anything about hoping someone is dead. They think it's just horrific. But since such thoughts have literally no impact on anything, and it's just thoughts, I personally don't find it offensive. I also think people have such thoughts (not just about Trump) a lot more often than they are willing to admit. I also think that plenty of people will feign offense because that is what they're supposed to do, when inside they really were kinda thinking the same thing. But anyway, anyone is an idiot for tweeting anything about the POTUS dying. It never goes well. One has to wonder how Joy Behar thought that was anything other than a terrible idea.

Well, you know.... part of a civilized society is that we don't voice every thought that pops into our heads, justified or not. 

Fine, but that doesn't mean everyone has to pretend to be offended by it.

I agree. I have been skewered in the past by voicing my truth about someone who has passed away. not that I wished for their death, just that I....um.....wasn't particularly saddened by it. 

I think there's a difference between not being saddened by the news that someone died, and saying "hey, I hope this person I don't like dies!" In my opinion, that's in pretty poor taste, no matter who it is. 

Yeah, but why should it matter if it's in poor taste? So what? It's the same with everyone being offended all the time... SO WHAT?

Because the world just keeps getting more and more vile, the more that people don't care that they are saying things that are in poor taste. 

It's like that guy (we all know one) who says whatever the hell insulting stuff he wants, and justifies it by saying "I just call it the way I see it". Yeah, that's true, and the attitude makes him a jerk. The world is better when we don't say every stupid thing that pops into our heads. 

I absolutely do not think that some people thinking the POTUS being dead would be better for everyone is what is making the world more vile right now!