Political Correctness is BS
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Sort of. I think it was Clemson where students protested over being served Mexican food while wearing a sombrero. I would not take that as making fun of them or pretending to look like anyone. Sombreros are the one garment instantly recognized as Mexican. As far as I know there is no controversy over it, no one in Mexico is insulted when one is worn. It’s just part of a traditional costume. I don’t think that would compare to someme be pretending to shoot up studf posng as an American, that would most likely be intended as an insult. Wearing. Sombrero on Cinco de Mayo isn’t.brianlux said:
No, those are not examples of cultural appropriation.mace1229 said:
How so?brianlux said:
This is called "cultural appropriation" which, by definition, is racist. One does not need to be "PC" to understand this.mace1229 said:Back to the original topic.
You know it is BS when it is considered racist to wear a sombrero and serve Mexican food on a college campus for Cinco de Mayo.
So is it racist to eat corned beef on St. Patrick's Day?
Is it racist to celebrate the Chinese new year in America?
If you say yes then we just disagree on completely different levels.
If those are okay, how is serving Mexican food on Cinco de Mayo any different? People generally aren't mocking Mexicans by doing it.
We were talking about someone pretending to look like Hispanic, not serve food, correct?0 -
and of course there is racial appropriation, remember Rachel Dolezal the woman who was pretending to be black and even was head of a local NAACP office, now no one will give her a job and she is on Food Stamps. For some reason it's no big deal for people to dress up like a different gender, but not a different race, I mean I personally would never do it, but is there really a difference? And if so what is it?mace1229 said:
Sort of. I think it was Clemson where students protested over being served Mexican food while wearing a sombrero. I would not take that as making fun of them or pretending to look like anyone. Sombreros are the one garment instantly recognized as Mexican. As far as I know there is no controversy over it, no one in Mexico is insulted when one is worn. It’s just part of a traditional costume. I don’t think that would compare to someme be pretending to shoot up studf posng as an American, that would most likely be intended as an insult. Wearing. Sombrero on Cinco de Mayo isn’t.brianlux said:
No, those are not examples of cultural appropriation.mace1229 said:
How so?brianlux said:
This is called "cultural appropriation" which, by definition, is racist. One does not need to be "PC" to understand this.mace1229 said:Back to the original topic.
You know it is BS when it is considered racist to wear a sombrero and serve Mexican food on a college campus for Cinco de Mayo.
So is it racist to eat corned beef on St. Patrick's Day?
Is it racist to celebrate the Chinese new year in America?
If you say yes then we just disagree on completely different levels.
If those are okay, how is serving Mexican food on Cinco de Mayo any different? People generally aren't mocking Mexicans by doing it.
We were talking about someone pretending to look like Hispanic, not serve food, correct?
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You mean like this?mace1229 said:
Shooting guns in the air is very illegal. Could even result in manslaughter or worse if it kills someone. I have never met a single gun owner who shoots bullets in the air. So yes, someone posing as an American by shooting into the air would be illegal.benjs said:
Negative and illegal stereotypes? How so?mace1229 said:
Yes, that would be racist and completely different.benjs said:
Would it be racist if I wore a red, white and blue tracksuit, forgot my ability to critically think at home, and wolfed down cheeseburgers while shooting my gun into the air on President's Day?mace1229 said:Back to the original topic.
You know it is BS when it is considered racist to wear a sombrero and serve Mexican food on a college campus for Cinco de Mayo.
If there is no issue with reducing a person to the stereotypes that exist for their cultural upbringing, this should go both directions.
From what I can see, people seem to have no problem with political correctness on its own: people seem to have a problem with political correctness when it inhibits their agenda rather than reinforcing it.
You would be embracing negative and illegal stereotypes.
How is serving Mexican food on a Mexican holiday racist?
How is wearing a traditional wear (sombrero) on a Mexican holiday racist? No one implies all Mexicans wear it, but it is a traditional accessories that is still commonly worn. I don't think I've ever seen a mariachi band without a sombrero.
It is perfectly acceptable to dress Irish and serve corned beef on St. Patrick's day. How is Cinco de Mayo different?
Is using chopsticks at a chinese restaurant racist now?
How is wearing a typically patriotic outfit on an American holiday discriminatory? Not all Americans wear it, but many do dress up for the occasion.
How is lacking critical thought, modelled after a typical American, discriminatory (and to remind you, you're 14th in reading skills, 25th in math, and 17th in sciences. You can walk north to Canada, where we're 3rd in reading, and 5th in math and sciences)?
How is eating a cheeseburger discriminatory? By the Center for Investigative Reporting's estimate (via PBS), Americans consume three burgers per week.
How is drawing attention to the American gun-lust discriminatory? There have been ongoing polarizing discussions on the topic for at least since the mass shooting epidemics, and the best solution this President has so far has been arming more people to prevent armed homicides (see the 'critical thought' part above).
I don’t have a problem if another country wants to serve hamburgers on the 4th of July. Dress as a cowboy and BBQ, wouldn’t insult me in the least. Suggesting they shoot guns in the air and equating that to serving Mexican food in a sombrero was what I didn’t agree with.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-reg-fisherman-shot-20171017-story.html
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Halifax2TheMax said:
You mean like this?mace1229 said:
Shooting guns in the air is very illegal. Could even result in manslaughter or worse if it kills someone. I have never met a single gun owner who shoots bullets in the air. So yes, someone posing as an American by shooting into the air would be illegal.benjs said:
Negative and illegal stereotypes? How so?mace1229 said:
Yes, that would be racist and completely different.benjs said:
Would it be racist if I wore a red, white and blue tracksuit, forgot my ability to critically think at home, and wolfed down cheeseburgers while shooting my gun into the air on President's Day?mace1229 said:Back to the original topic.
You know it is BS when it is considered racist to wear a sombrero and serve Mexican food on a college campus for Cinco de Mayo.
If there is no issue with reducing a person to the stereotypes that exist for their cultural upbringing, this should go both directions.
From what I can see, people seem to have no problem with political correctness on its own: people seem to have a problem with political correctness when it inhibits their agenda rather than reinforcing it.
You would be embracing negative and illegal stereotypes.
How is serving Mexican food on a Mexican holiday racist?
How is wearing a traditional wear (sombrero) on a Mexican holiday racist? No one implies all Mexicans wear it, but it is a traditional accessories that is still commonly worn. I don't think I've ever seen a mariachi band without a sombrero.
It is perfectly acceptable to dress Irish and serve corned beef on St. Patrick's day. How is Cinco de Mayo different?
Is using chopsticks at a chinese restaurant racist now?
How is wearing a typically patriotic outfit on an American holiday discriminatory? Not all Americans wear it, but many do dress up for the occasion.
How is lacking critical thought, modelled after a typical American, discriminatory (and to remind you, you're 14th in reading skills, 25th in math, and 17th in sciences. You can walk north to Canada, where we're 3rd in reading, and 5th in math and sciences)?
How is eating a cheeseburger discriminatory? By the Center for Investigative Reporting's estimate (via PBS), Americans consume three burgers per week.
How is drawing attention to the American gun-lust discriminatory? There have been ongoing polarizing discussions on the topic for at least since the mass shooting epidemics, and the best solution this President has so far has been arming more people to prevent armed homicides (see the 'critical thought' part above).
I don’t have a problem if another country wants to serve hamburgers on the 4th of July. Dress as a cowboy and BBQ, wouldn’t insult me in the least. Suggesting they shoot guns in the air and equating that to serving Mexican food in a sombrero was what I didn’t agree with.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-reg-fisherman-shot-20171017-story.html
Exactly.
But that article they were not shooting up in the air as mentioned before, they were shooting at an illegal target without a proper berm. I only said I don;t know anyone and have never seen anyone who shoots guns into the air, I never said that doesn't happen if that is where this was going.
The article states the only reason no charges were filed is they could not determine who fired the shot.
My opinion both should have been charged with a lesser crime but neither with manslaughter.0 -
Just a couple more “responsible” gun owners not held to account for someone’s death. They both should have been charged with manslaughter for their stupidity alone. Maybe the skipped the class about knowing what’s down range?mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
You mean like this?mace1229 said:
Shooting guns in the air is very illegal. Could even result in manslaughter or worse if it kills someone. I have never met a single gun owner who shoots bullets in the air. So yes, someone posing as an American by shooting into the air would be illegal.benjs said:
Negative and illegal stereotypes? How so?mace1229 said:
Yes, that would be racist and completely different.benjs said:
Would it be racist if I wore a red, white and blue tracksuit, forgot my ability to critically think at home, and wolfed down cheeseburgers while shooting my gun into the air on President's Day?mace1229 said:Back to the original topic.
You know it is BS when it is considered racist to wear a sombrero and serve Mexican food on a college campus for Cinco de Mayo.
If there is no issue with reducing a person to the stereotypes that exist for their cultural upbringing, this should go both directions.
From what I can see, people seem to have no problem with political correctness on its own: people seem to have a problem with political correctness when it inhibits their agenda rather than reinforcing it.
You would be embracing negative and illegal stereotypes.
How is serving Mexican food on a Mexican holiday racist?
How is wearing a traditional wear (sombrero) on a Mexican holiday racist? No one implies all Mexicans wear it, but it is a traditional accessories that is still commonly worn. I don't think I've ever seen a mariachi band without a sombrero.
It is perfectly acceptable to dress Irish and serve corned beef on St. Patrick's day. How is Cinco de Mayo different?
Is using chopsticks at a chinese restaurant racist now?
How is wearing a typically patriotic outfit on an American holiday discriminatory? Not all Americans wear it, but many do dress up for the occasion.
How is lacking critical thought, modelled after a typical American, discriminatory (and to remind you, you're 14th in reading skills, 25th in math, and 17th in sciences. You can walk north to Canada, where we're 3rd in reading, and 5th in math and sciences)?
How is eating a cheeseburger discriminatory? By the Center for Investigative Reporting's estimate (via PBS), Americans consume three burgers per week.
How is drawing attention to the American gun-lust discriminatory? There have been ongoing polarizing discussions on the topic for at least since the mass shooting epidemics, and the best solution this President has so far has been arming more people to prevent armed homicides (see the 'critical thought' part above).
I don’t have a problem if another country wants to serve hamburgers on the 4th of July. Dress as a cowboy and BBQ, wouldn’t insult me in the least. Suggesting they shoot guns in the air and equating that to serving Mexican food in a sombrero was what I didn’t agree with.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-reg-fisherman-shot-20171017-story.html
Exactly.
But that article they were not shooting up in the air as mentioned before, they were shooting at an illegal target without a proper berm. I only said I don;t know anyone and have never seen anyone who shoots guns into the air, I never said that doesn't happen if that is where this was going.
The article states the only reason no charges were filed is they could not determine who fired the shot.
My opinion both should have been charged with a lesser crime but neither with manslaughter.
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I would agree that they should have been charged. I just don't see how manslaughter could have possibly stuck when there was no way of knowing who shot the fatal bullet. Legally I just don't see how that charge makes sense, no matter how stupid they were.Halifax2TheMax said:
Just a couple more “responsible” gun owners not held to account for someone’s death. They both should have been charged with manslaughter for their stupidity alone. Maybe the skipped the class about knowing what’s down range?mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
You mean like this?mace1229 said:
Shooting guns in the air is very illegal. Could even result in manslaughter or worse if it kills someone. I have never met a single gun owner who shoots bullets in the air. So yes, someone posing as an American by shooting into the air would be illegal.benjs said:
Negative and illegal stereotypes? How so?mace1229 said:
Yes, that would be racist and completely different.benjs said:
Would it be racist if I wore a red, white and blue tracksuit, forgot my ability to critically think at home, and wolfed down cheeseburgers while shooting my gun into the air on President's Day?mace1229 said:Back to the original topic.
You know it is BS when it is considered racist to wear a sombrero and serve Mexican food on a college campus for Cinco de Mayo.
If there is no issue with reducing a person to the stereotypes that exist for their cultural upbringing, this should go both directions.
From what I can see, people seem to have no problem with political correctness on its own: people seem to have a problem with political correctness when it inhibits their agenda rather than reinforcing it.
You would be embracing negative and illegal stereotypes.
How is serving Mexican food on a Mexican holiday racist?
How is wearing a traditional wear (sombrero) on a Mexican holiday racist? No one implies all Mexicans wear it, but it is a traditional accessories that is still commonly worn. I don't think I've ever seen a mariachi band without a sombrero.
It is perfectly acceptable to dress Irish and serve corned beef on St. Patrick's day. How is Cinco de Mayo different?
Is using chopsticks at a chinese restaurant racist now?
How is wearing a typically patriotic outfit on an American holiday discriminatory? Not all Americans wear it, but many do dress up for the occasion.
How is lacking critical thought, modelled after a typical American, discriminatory (and to remind you, you're 14th in reading skills, 25th in math, and 17th in sciences. You can walk north to Canada, where we're 3rd in reading, and 5th in math and sciences)?
How is eating a cheeseburger discriminatory? By the Center for Investigative Reporting's estimate (via PBS), Americans consume three burgers per week.
How is drawing attention to the American gun-lust discriminatory? There have been ongoing polarizing discussions on the topic for at least since the mass shooting epidemics, and the best solution this President has so far has been arming more people to prevent armed homicides (see the 'critical thought' part above).
I don’t have a problem if another country wants to serve hamburgers on the 4th of July. Dress as a cowboy and BBQ, wouldn’t insult me in the least. Suggesting they shoot guns in the air and equating that to serving Mexican food in a sombrero was what I didn’t agree with.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-reg-fisherman-shot-20171017-story.html
Exactly.
But that article they were not shooting up in the air as mentioned before, they were shooting at an illegal target without a proper berm. I only said I don;t know anyone and have never seen anyone who shoots guns into the air, I never said that doesn't happen if that is where this was going.
The article states the only reason no charges were filed is they could not determine who fired the shot.
My opinion both should have been charged with a lesser crime but neither with manslaughter.
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Your analogies stink like old goat cheese.Big Bank Hank said:
and of course there is racial appropriation, remember Rachel Dolezal the woman who was pretending to be black and even was head of a local NAACP office, now no one will give her a job and she is on Food Stamps. For some reason it's no big deal for people to dress up like a different gender, but not a different race, I mean I personally would never do it, but is there really a difference? And if so what is it?mace1229 said:
Sort of. I think it was Clemson where students protested over being served Mexican food while wearing a sombrero. I would not take that as making fun of them or pretending to look like anyone. Sombreros are the one garment instantly recognized as Mexican. As far as I know there is no controversy over it, no one in Mexico is insulted when one is worn. It’s just part of a traditional costume. I don’t think that would compare to someme be pretending to shoot up studf posng as an American, that would most likely be intended as an insult. Wearing. Sombrero on Cinco de Mayo isn’t.brianlux said:
No, those are not examples of cultural appropriation.mace1229 said:
How so?brianlux said:
This is called "cultural appropriation" which, by definition, is racist. One does not need to be "PC" to understand this.mace1229 said:Back to the original topic.
You know it is BS when it is considered racist to wear a sombrero and serve Mexican food on a college campus for Cinco de Mayo.
So is it racist to eat corned beef on St. Patrick's Day?
Is it racist to celebrate the Chinese new year in America?
If you say yes then we just disagree on completely different levels.
If those are okay, how is serving Mexican food on Cinco de Mayo any different? People generally aren't mocking Mexicans by doing it.
We were talking about someone pretending to look like Hispanic, not serve food, correct?0 -
What the hell are you posting? Just random clips you find online? I’m not asking to sound like an asshole, but I’m trying to know where you’re coming from. Most of your posts are YouTube clips with sensationalistic headlines. Your message is lost and is a bit jumbled. Just some honest feedback.Big Bank Hank said:Wedding Celebrations Turn Tragic, Gunfire Kills Groom’s Father
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It is interesting to me about its ok to dress as a woman at a party but not a different colour. Also the Mexican hat. If i put a cowboy hat on as an English man is that wrong. Dressing as another person to celebrate anything can in no way be classed as racism thats crazy talk. Celebrate means enjoy and you are FOR that specific event or day. Dear lord.
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negligent homicide, reckless endangermentmace1229 said:
I would agree that they should have been charged. I just don't see how manslaughter could have possibly stuck when there was no way of knowing who shot the fatal bullet. Legally I just don't see how that charge makes sense, no matter how stupid they were.Halifax2TheMax said:
Just a couple more “responsible” gun owners not held to account for someone’s death. They both should have been charged with manslaughter for their stupidity alone. Maybe the skipped the class about knowing what’s down range?mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
You mean like this?mace1229 said:
Shooting guns in the air is very illegal. Could even result in manslaughter or worse if it kills someone. I have never met a single gun owner who shoots bullets in the air. So yes, someone posing as an American by shooting into the air would be illegal.benjs said:
Negative and illegal stereotypes? How so?mace1229 said:
Yes, that would be racist and completely different.benjs said:
Would it be racist if I wore a red, white and blue tracksuit, forgot my ability to critically think at home, and wolfed down cheeseburgers while shooting my gun into the air on President's Day?mace1229 said:Back to the original topic.
You know it is BS when it is considered racist to wear a sombrero and serve Mexican food on a college campus for Cinco de Mayo.
If there is no issue with reducing a person to the stereotypes that exist for their cultural upbringing, this should go both directions.
From what I can see, people seem to have no problem with political correctness on its own: people seem to have a problem with political correctness when it inhibits their agenda rather than reinforcing it.
You would be embracing negative and illegal stereotypes.
How is serving Mexican food on a Mexican holiday racist?
How is wearing a traditional wear (sombrero) on a Mexican holiday racist? No one implies all Mexicans wear it, but it is a traditional accessories that is still commonly worn. I don't think I've ever seen a mariachi band without a sombrero.
It is perfectly acceptable to dress Irish and serve corned beef on St. Patrick's day. How is Cinco de Mayo different?
Is using chopsticks at a chinese restaurant racist now?
How is wearing a typically patriotic outfit on an American holiday discriminatory? Not all Americans wear it, but many do dress up for the occasion.
How is lacking critical thought, modelled after a typical American, discriminatory (and to remind you, you're 14th in reading skills, 25th in math, and 17th in sciences. You can walk north to Canada, where we're 3rd in reading, and 5th in math and sciences)?
How is eating a cheeseburger discriminatory? By the Center for Investigative Reporting's estimate (via PBS), Americans consume three burgers per week.
How is drawing attention to the American gun-lust discriminatory? There have been ongoing polarizing discussions on the topic for at least since the mass shooting epidemics, and the best solution this President has so far has been arming more people to prevent armed homicides (see the 'critical thought' part above).
I don’t have a problem if another country wants to serve hamburgers on the 4th of July. Dress as a cowboy and BBQ, wouldn’t insult me in the least. Suggesting they shoot guns in the air and equating that to serving Mexican food in a sombrero was what I didn’t agree with.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-reg-fisherman-shot-20171017-story.html
Exactly.
But that article they were not shooting up in the air as mentioned before, they were shooting at an illegal target without a proper berm. I only said I don;t know anyone and have never seen anyone who shoots guns into the air, I never said that doesn't happen if that is where this was going.
The article states the only reason no charges were filed is they could not determine who fired the shot.
My opinion both should have been charged with a lesser crime but neither with manslaughter.
am sure a few others are available as well to punish
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No they were discussing shooting guns in the air, and this happens all the time where people get killed from people shooting their guns in the air in celebration, but whatever dude, don't really give a shit either way, maybe you should try relaxing and being a little less stressed outmfc2006 said:
What the hell are you posting? Just random clips you find online? I’m not asking to sound like an asshole, but I’m trying to know where you’re coming from. Most of your posts are YouTube clips with sensationalistic headlines. Your message is lost and is a bit jumbled. Just some honest feedback.Big Bank Hank said:Wedding Celebrations Turn Tragic, Gunfire Kills Groom’s Father
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and likewise, so you can carry on, I'll be just fine, thanksmfc2006 said:Not stressed at all. Thanks for your concern, though.0 -
Yes, but who? You can't charge both just because you don't know which one was responsible.mickeyrat said:
negligent homicide, reckless endangermentmace1229 said:
I would agree that they should have been charged. I just don't see how manslaughter could have possibly stuck when there was no way of knowing who shot the fatal bullet. Legally I just don't see how that charge makes sense, no matter how stupid they were.Halifax2TheMax said:
Just a couple more “responsible” gun owners not held to account for someone’s death. They both should have been charged with manslaughter for their stupidity alone. Maybe the skipped the class about knowing what’s down range?mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
You mean like this?mace1229 said:
Shooting guns in the air is very illegal. Could even result in manslaughter or worse if it kills someone. I have never met a single gun owner who shoots bullets in the air. So yes, someone posing as an American by shooting into the air would be illegal.benjs said:
Negative and illegal stereotypes? How so?mace1229 said:
Yes, that would be racist and completely different.benjs said:
Would it be racist if I wore a red, white and blue tracksuit, forgot my ability to critically think at home, and wolfed down cheeseburgers while shooting my gun into the air on President's Day?mace1229 said:Back to the original topic.
You know it is BS when it is considered racist to wear a sombrero and serve Mexican food on a college campus for Cinco de Mayo.
If there is no issue with reducing a person to the stereotypes that exist for their cultural upbringing, this should go both directions.
From what I can see, people seem to have no problem with political correctness on its own: people seem to have a problem with political correctness when it inhibits their agenda rather than reinforcing it.
You would be embracing negative and illegal stereotypes.
How is serving Mexican food on a Mexican holiday racist?
How is wearing a traditional wear (sombrero) on a Mexican holiday racist? No one implies all Mexicans wear it, but it is a traditional accessories that is still commonly worn. I don't think I've ever seen a mariachi band without a sombrero.
It is perfectly acceptable to dress Irish and serve corned beef on St. Patrick's day. How is Cinco de Mayo different?
Is using chopsticks at a chinese restaurant racist now?
How is wearing a typically patriotic outfit on an American holiday discriminatory? Not all Americans wear it, but many do dress up for the occasion.
How is lacking critical thought, modelled after a typical American, discriminatory (and to remind you, you're 14th in reading skills, 25th in math, and 17th in sciences. You can walk north to Canada, where we're 3rd in reading, and 5th in math and sciences)?
How is eating a cheeseburger discriminatory? By the Center for Investigative Reporting's estimate (via PBS), Americans consume three burgers per week.
How is drawing attention to the American gun-lust discriminatory? There have been ongoing polarizing discussions on the topic for at least since the mass shooting epidemics, and the best solution this President has so far has been arming more people to prevent armed homicides (see the 'critical thought' part above).
I don’t have a problem if another country wants to serve hamburgers on the 4th of July. Dress as a cowboy and BBQ, wouldn’t insult me in the least. Suggesting they shoot guns in the air and equating that to serving Mexican food in a sombrero was what I didn’t agree with.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-reg-fisherman-shot-20171017-story.html
Exactly.
But that article they were not shooting up in the air as mentioned before, they were shooting at an illegal target without a proper berm. I only said I don;t know anyone and have never seen anyone who shoots guns into the air, I never said that doesn't happen if that is where this was going.
The article states the only reason no charges were filed is they could not determine who fired the shot.
My opinion both should have been charged with a lesser crime but neither with manslaughter.
am sure a few others are available as well to punish
I said charge them both with something like reckless endangerment. I just don't see how you can charge both with any homicide/manslaughter when clearly only one did it, you just don't know which one. And that is exactly what happened, they couldn't figure out which one shot bullet that struck the man, so they couldn't charge them with homicide/manslaughter.
Both should have definitely been charged with reckless endangerment or something similar though.Post edited by mace1229 on0 -
both were acting recklessly. chargw them both with that homicide charge as well as accessory to......mace1229 said:
Yes, but who? You can't charge both just because you don't know which one was responsible.mickeyrat said:
negligent homicide, reckless endangermentmace1229 said:
I would agree that they should have been charged. I just don't see how manslaughter could have possibly stuck when there was no way of knowing who shot the fatal bullet. Legally I just don't see how that charge makes sense, no matter how stupid they were.Halifax2TheMax said:
Just a couple more “responsible” gun owners not held to account for someone’s death. They both should have been charged with manslaughter for their stupidity alone. Maybe the skipped the class about knowing what’s down range?mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
You mean like this?mace1229 said:
Shooting guns in the air is very illegal. Could even result in manslaughter or worse if it kills someone. I have never met a single gun owner who shoots bullets in the air. So yes, someone posing as an American by shooting into the air would be illegal.benjs said:
Negative and illegal stereotypes? How so?mace1229 said:
Yes, that would be racist and completely different.benjs said:
Would it be racist if I wore a red, white and blue tracksuit, forgot my ability to critically think at home, and wolfed down cheeseburgers while shooting my gun into the air on President's Day?mace1229 said:Back to the original topic.
You know it is BS when it is considered racist to wear a sombrero and serve Mexican food on a college campus for Cinco de Mayo.
If there is no issue with reducing a person to the stereotypes that exist for their cultural upbringing, this should go both directions.
From what I can see, people seem to have no problem with political correctness on its own: people seem to have a problem with political correctness when it inhibits their agenda rather than reinforcing it.
You would be embracing negative and illegal stereotypes.
How is serving Mexican food on a Mexican holiday racist?
How is wearing a traditional wear (sombrero) on a Mexican holiday racist? No one implies all Mexicans wear it, but it is a traditional accessories that is still commonly worn. I don't think I've ever seen a mariachi band without a sombrero.
It is perfectly acceptable to dress Irish and serve corned beef on St. Patrick's day. How is Cinco de Mayo different?
Is using chopsticks at a chinese restaurant racist now?
How is wearing a typically patriotic outfit on an American holiday discriminatory? Not all Americans wear it, but many do dress up for the occasion.
How is lacking critical thought, modelled after a typical American, discriminatory (and to remind you, you're 14th in reading skills, 25th in math, and 17th in sciences. You can walk north to Canada, where we're 3rd in reading, and 5th in math and sciences)?
How is eating a cheeseburger discriminatory? By the Center for Investigative Reporting's estimate (via PBS), Americans consume three burgers per week.
How is drawing attention to the American gun-lust discriminatory? There have been ongoing polarizing discussions on the topic for at least since the mass shooting epidemics, and the best solution this President has so far has been arming more people to prevent armed homicides (see the 'critical thought' part above).
I don’t have a problem if another country wants to serve hamburgers on the 4th of July. Dress as a cowboy and BBQ, wouldn’t insult me in the least. Suggesting they shoot guns in the air and equating that to serving Mexican food in a sombrero was what I didn’t agree with.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-reg-fisherman-shot-20171017-story.html
Exactly.
But that article they were not shooting up in the air as mentioned before, they were shooting at an illegal target without a proper berm. I only said I don;t know anyone and have never seen anyone who shoots guns into the air, I never said that doesn't happen if that is where this was going.
The article states the only reason no charges were filed is they could not determine who fired the shot.
My opinion both should have been charged with a lesser crime but neither with manslaughter.
am sure a few others are available as well to punish
I said charge them both with something like reckless endangerment. I just don't see how you can charge both with any homicide/manslaughter when clearly only one did it, you just don't know which one. And that is exactly what happened, they couldn't figure out which one shot bullet that struck the man, so they couldn't charge them with homicide/manslaughter.
Both should have definitely been charged with reckless endangerment or something similar though.
depraved indifference if that jurisdiction has that charge.
accessory often gets the full weight as well , so the charges fit.
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I'll bet you Florida would charge a bartender who served someone until they were hammered and then got in their car and killed someone, even if mutiple bartenders or waitstaff were working. This is part of the problem with the gun culture, gun owners are not held to an acceptiple level of accountibility. Its always a "tragic" accident. "Responsible" gun owners should hold thier own to account when they do stupid shit like this. I've posted numerous stories of innocent people going about their business, legally and ritghtfully, only to have their life taken by a "responsible" gun owner because of a "tragedy." Shooting in the air is only differentiated by horizontal into a berm, or so they thought, and vertically into the air. Maybe there should be a law that says if you're irresponsible in the operation of a firearm, or you were present and knew or should have known that someone in your party was irresponsible with a firearm, resulting in greivous harm or death of an individual, you lose your privelage to legally possess firearms for a period not to exceed 5 years, first offence? How many kids kill kids and the "responsible" adults don't pay a price other than feelings of guilt and remorse. Fuck that, lose your right to bear arms and go to jail to think about it for a while, idiot(s).mace1229 said:
Yes, but who? You can't charge both just because you don't know which one was responsible.mickeyrat said:
negligent homicide, reckless endangermentmace1229 said:
I would agree that they should have been charged. I just don't see how manslaughter could have possibly stuck when there was no way of knowing who shot the fatal bullet. Legally I just don't see how that charge makes sense, no matter how stupid they were.Halifax2TheMax said:
Just a couple more “responsible” gun owners not held to account for someone’s death. They both should have been charged with manslaughter for their stupidity alone. Maybe the skipped the class about knowing what’s down range?mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
You mean like this?mace1229 said:
Shooting guns in the air is very illegal. Could even result in manslaughter or worse if it kills someone. I have never met a single gun owner who shoots bullets in the air. So yes, someone posing as an American by shooting into the air would be illegal.benjs said:
Negative and illegal stereotypes? How so?mace1229 said:
Yes, that would be racist and completely different.benjs said:
Would it be racist if I wore a red, white and blue tracksuit, forgot my ability to critically think at home, and wolfed down cheeseburgers while shooting my gun into the air on President's Day?mace1229 said:Back to the original topic.
You know it is BS when it is considered racist to wear a sombrero and serve Mexican food on a college campus for Cinco de Mayo.
If there is no issue with reducing a person to the stereotypes that exist for their cultural upbringing, this should go both directions.
From what I can see, people seem to have no problem with political correctness on its own: people seem to have a problem with political correctness when it inhibits their agenda rather than reinforcing it.
You would be embracing negative and illegal stereotypes.
How is serving Mexican food on a Mexican holiday racist?
How is wearing a traditional wear (sombrero) on a Mexican holiday racist? No one implies all Mexicans wear it, but it is a traditional accessories that is still commonly worn. I don't think I've ever seen a mariachi band without a sombrero.
It is perfectly acceptable to dress Irish and serve corned beef on St. Patrick's day. How is Cinco de Mayo different?
Is using chopsticks at a chinese restaurant racist now?
How is wearing a typically patriotic outfit on an American holiday discriminatory? Not all Americans wear it, but many do dress up for the occasion.
How is lacking critical thought, modelled after a typical American, discriminatory (and to remind you, you're 14th in reading skills, 25th in math, and 17th in sciences. You can walk north to Canada, where we're 3rd in reading, and 5th in math and sciences)?
How is eating a cheeseburger discriminatory? By the Center for Investigative Reporting's estimate (via PBS), Americans consume three burgers per week.
How is drawing attention to the American gun-lust discriminatory? There have been ongoing polarizing discussions on the topic for at least since the mass shooting epidemics, and the best solution this President has so far has been arming more people to prevent armed homicides (see the 'critical thought' part above).
I don’t have a problem if another country wants to serve hamburgers on the 4th of July. Dress as a cowboy and BBQ, wouldn’t insult me in the least. Suggesting they shoot guns in the air and equating that to serving Mexican food in a sombrero was what I didn’t agree with.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-reg-fisherman-shot-20171017-story.html
Exactly.
But that article they were not shooting up in the air as mentioned before, they were shooting at an illegal target without a proper berm. I only said I don;t know anyone and have never seen anyone who shoots guns into the air, I never said that doesn't happen if that is where this was going.
The article states the only reason no charges were filed is they could not determine who fired the shot.
My opinion both should have been charged with a lesser crime but neither with manslaughter.
am sure a few others are available as well to punish
I said charge them both with something like reckless endangerment. I just don't see how you can charge both with any homicide/manslaughter when clearly only one did it, you just don't know which one. And that is exactly what happened, they couldn't figure out which one shot bullet that struck the man, so they couldn't charge them with homicide/manslaughter.
Both should have definitely been charged with reckless endangerment or something similar though.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Besides the fact that gender and culture are different things, a guy in the UK wearing a cowboy hat is also different because hispanics are at the receiving end of discrimination in the US, and you can combine it with a lot of ignorance around Mexican culture. A drunk guy with a sombrero, a burrito, and no idea of what Cinco de Mayo is about can represent this ignorance. How offended someone is is up to the observer.lastexitlondon said:It is interesting to me about its ok to dress as a woman at a party but not a different colour. Also the Mexican hat. If i put a cowboy hat on as an English man is that wrong. Dressing as another person to celebrate anything can in no way be classed as racism thats crazy talk. Celebrate means enjoy and you are FOR that specific event or day. Dear lord.0 -
But would they charge every bartender working, even if they had no idea who actually served him? I doubt it. Even if they know they all routinely serve people until they are hammered, they wouldn't charge everyone.Halifax2TheMax said:
I'll bet you Florida would charge a bartender who served someone until they were hammered and then got in their car and killed someone, even if mutiple bartenders or waitstaff were working. This is part of the problem with the gun culture, gun owners are not held to an acceptiple level of accountibility. Its always a "tragic" accident. "Responsible" gun owners should hold thier own to account when they do stupid shit like this. I've posted numerous stories of innocent people going about their business, legally and ritghtfully, only to have their life taken by a "responsible" gun owner because of a "tragedy." Shooting in the air is only differentiated by horizontal into a berm, or so they thought, and vertically into the air. Maybe there should be a law that says if you're irresponsible in the operation of a firearm, or you were present and knew or should have known that someone in your party was irresponsible with a firearm, resulting in greivous harm or death of an individual, you lose your privelage to legally possess firearms for a period not to exceed 5 years, first offence? How many kids kill kids and the "responsible" adults don't pay a price other than feelings of guilt and remorse. Fuck that, lose your right to bear arms and go to jail to think about it for a while, idiot(s).mace1229 said:
Yes, but who? You can't charge both just because you don't know which one was responsible.mickeyrat said:
negligent homicide, reckless endangermentmace1229 said:
I would agree that they should have been charged. I just don't see how manslaughter could have possibly stuck when there was no way of knowing who shot the fatal bullet. Legally I just don't see how that charge makes sense, no matter how stupid they were.Halifax2TheMax said:
Just a couple more “responsible” gun owners not held to account for someone’s death. They both should have been charged with manslaughter for their stupidity alone. Maybe the skipped the class about knowing what’s down range?mace1229 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
You mean like this?mace1229 said:
Shooting guns in the air is very illegal. Could even result in manslaughter or worse if it kills someone. I have never met a single gun owner who shoots bullets in the air. So yes, someone posing as an American by shooting into the air would be illegal.benjs said:
Negative and illegal stereotypes? How so?mace1229 said:
Yes, that would be racist and completely different.benjs said:
Would it be racist if I wore a red, white and blue tracksuit, forgot my ability to critically think at home, and wolfed down cheeseburgers while shooting my gun into the air on President's Day?mace1229 said:Back to the original topic.
You know it is BS when it is considered racist to wear a sombrero and serve Mexican food on a college campus for Cinco de Mayo.
If there is no issue with reducing a person to the stereotypes that exist for their cultural upbringing, this should go both directions.
From what I can see, people seem to have no problem with political correctness on its own: people seem to have a problem with political correctness when it inhibits their agenda rather than reinforcing it.
You would be embracing negative and illegal stereotypes.
How is serving Mexican food on a Mexican holiday racist?
How is wearing a traditional wear (sombrero) on a Mexican holiday racist? No one implies all Mexicans wear it, but it is a traditional accessories that is still commonly worn. I don't think I've ever seen a mariachi band without a sombrero.
It is perfectly acceptable to dress Irish and serve corned beef on St. Patrick's day. How is Cinco de Mayo different?
Is using chopsticks at a chinese restaurant racist now?
How is wearing a typically patriotic outfit on an American holiday discriminatory? Not all Americans wear it, but many do dress up for the occasion.
How is lacking critical thought, modelled after a typical American, discriminatory (and to remind you, you're 14th in reading skills, 25th in math, and 17th in sciences. You can walk north to Canada, where we're 3rd in reading, and 5th in math and sciences)?
How is eating a cheeseburger discriminatory? By the Center for Investigative Reporting's estimate (via PBS), Americans consume three burgers per week.
How is drawing attention to the American gun-lust discriminatory? There have been ongoing polarizing discussions on the topic for at least since the mass shooting epidemics, and the best solution this President has so far has been arming more people to prevent armed homicides (see the 'critical thought' part above).
I don’t have a problem if another country wants to serve hamburgers on the 4th of July. Dress as a cowboy and BBQ, wouldn’t insult me in the least. Suggesting they shoot guns in the air and equating that to serving Mexican food in a sombrero was what I didn’t agree with.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/florida/fl-reg-fisherman-shot-20171017-story.html
Exactly.
But that article they were not shooting up in the air as mentioned before, they were shooting at an illegal target without a proper berm. I only said I don;t know anyone and have never seen anyone who shoots guns into the air, I never said that doesn't happen if that is where this was going.
The article states the only reason no charges were filed is they could not determine who fired the shot.
My opinion both should have been charged with a lesser crime but neither with manslaughter.
am sure a few others are available as well to punish
I said charge them both with something like reckless endangerment. I just don't see how you can charge both with any homicide/manslaughter when clearly only one did it, you just don't know which one. And that is exactly what happened, they couldn't figure out which one shot bullet that struck the man, so they couldn't charge them with homicide/manslaughter.
Both should have definitely been charged with reckless endangerment or something similar though.
I'm not against holding people responsible. You just have to know who is guilty. And I'm speculating here, but I would bet they determined any lawyer could easily throw up some defense given the scenario in a case like this that would make it impossible to convict.0 -
Lots of Mexican buddies when I lived in LA and they would laugh at all of the whiteys going out to drink tequila and eat tacos on a day that none of them gave two shits about. One buddy explained to me that for the most part, only people who lived around where The Battle of Puebla took place celebrated.Go Beavers said:
Besides the fact that gender and culture are different things, a guy in the UK wearing a cowboy hat is also different because hispanics are at the receiving end of discrimination in the US, and you can combine it with a lot of ignorance around Mexican culture. A drunk guy with a sombrero, a burrito, and no idea of what Cinco de Mayo is about can represent this ignorance. How offended someone is is up to the observer.lastexitlondon said:It is interesting to me about its ok to dress as a woman at a party but not a different colour. Also the Mexican hat. If i put a cowboy hat on as an English man is that wrong. Dressing as another person to celebrate anything can in no way be classed as racism thats crazy talk. Celebrate means enjoy and you are FOR that specific event or day. Dear lord.
Otherwise it appears as though it might be propped up to support consumerism in the USA -- go out on May 5th and drink Tecate!
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