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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    What a dipshit.

    https://www.axios.com/trump-cpac-speech-greatest-hits-campaign-rhetoric-f1c7794c-f3b9-4e13-92a7-ea9fb9826850.html
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,984
    Tiki said:
    What a dipshit.

    https://www.axios.com/trump-cpac-speech-greatest-hits-campaign-rhetoric-f1c7794c-f3b9-4e13-92a7-ea9fb9826850.html
    How many times did he condemn Russia for interfering in our democratic elections in that long speech?
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,731
    and the "lock her up" chant again....the day after his campaign manager got indicted on 32 counts of fraud, etc.
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  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639

    "Russia Hysteria Is Making US International Laughing Stock"- Noam Chomsky this is awesome, the Far Left are the only ones who seem to get how ridiculous this is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MRQlC9wnok

  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,984
    It isn't ridiculous at all to get to the bottom of a foreign government interfering in our elections. What that man is saying is just whataboutism. The context of Noam Chomsky's words are important and they don't invalidate the problem with Russia.
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  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    Kat said:
    It isn't ridiculous at all to get to the bottom of a foreign government interfering in our elections. What that man is saying is just whataboutism. The context of Noam Chomsky's words are important and they don't invalidate the problem with Russia.

    The point is that we have interfered in other countries elections, including Russia's that is how Boris Yeltsin came into power, we have directly or indirectly overthrown or got the people elected we wanted into power in at least 17 different countries since the Korean War, so unless we stop interfering in other countries elections, then no one around the world will have any sympathy for us, and nor should they. Simple question: Is the Middle East better off, or worse off since we became involved, going all the way back to when we overthrew the leader of Iran to install the Shah, the person we wanted so the west could exploit their oil production.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    It's possible for citizens not to be okay with what the US has done historically, AND not to be okay with what Russia did.  Let me quote a one "Big Bank Hank" when he said "I care about Americans first
  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,984
    And you have to seriously examine "why" we tried to get other countries to become more democratic. There are issues of slaughtering and gassing civilians, etc. I can't recall the US interfering with other countries that treat their people well. There are many fine points about what our government does and I surely don't agree with everything but trying to do the right thing is important. Have a great weekend, everyone. :)
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,696
    We probably should not be too proud of the Pinochet coup.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_intervention_in_Chile#The_1973_Coup
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  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    Kat said:
    And you have to seriously examine "why" we tried to get other countries to become more democratic. There are issues of slaughtering and gassing civilians, etc. I can't recall the US interfering with other countries that treat their people well. There are many fine points about what our government does and I surely don't agree with everything but trying to do the right thing is important. Have a great weekend, everyone. :)

    and Libya is far worse off, ISIS & Al Qaeda swept in and a lot of Libyans were slaughtered or enslaved, you can't believe something just because it's on the news, the media in this country is wrong more often than not, and the US Government is untruthful as much as it is truthful. Most of what we were fed on Libya was propaganda.
  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    OnWis97 said:
    We probably should not be too proud of the Pinochet coup.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_intervention_in_Chile#The_1973_Coup
    exactly
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Big Bank Hank said:
    Kat said:
    And you have to seriously examine "why" we tried to get other countries to become more democratic. There are issues of slaughtering and gassing civilians, etc. I can't recall the US interfering with other countries that treat their people well. There are many fine points about what our government does and I surely don't agree with everything but trying to do the right thing is important. Have a great weekend, everyone. :)

    and Libya is far worse off, ISIS & Al Qaeda swept in and a lot of Libyans were slaughtered or enslaved, you can't believe something just because it's on the news, the media in this country is wrong more often than not, and the US Government is untruthful as much as it is truthful. Most of what we were fed on Libya was propaganda.
    Dude, you seriously need to stop getting your information from internet memes.  Ghaddafi supplied those things to people of his party and supporters but brutally repressed and killed anyone of dissent.  This includes the massive war crimes in Misrurata, his own people.  "you can't believe something just because it's on the news,"... well you believe something just because it's on a meme.  This is the 3rd or 4th you've pushed forward.  
  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    mrussel1 said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    Kat said:
    And you have to seriously examine "why" we tried to get other countries to become more democratic. There are issues of slaughtering and gassing civilians, etc. I can't recall the US interfering with other countries that treat their people well. There are many fine points about what our government does and I surely don't agree with everything but trying to do the right thing is important. Have a great weekend, everyone. :)

    and Libya is far worse off, ISIS & Al Qaeda swept in and a lot of Libyans were slaughtered or enslaved, you can't believe something just because it's on the news, the media in this country is wrong more often than not, and the US Government is untruthful as much as it is truthful. Most of what we were fed on Libya was propaganda.
    Dude, you seriously need to stop getting your information from internet memes.  Ghaddafi supplied those things to people of his party and supporters but brutally repressed and killed anyone of dissent.  This includes the massive war crimes in Misrurata, his own people.  "you can't believe something just because it's on the news,"... well you believe something just because it's on a meme.  This is the 3rd or 4th you've pushed forward.  
    and things are far worse in Libya we helped orchestrate his death, that is indisputable regardless which news source you use, everyone is in agreement on that, so if we hadn't gotten involved some people would suffer, but not nearly as many who have suffered since, was Ghaddafi a good person? No. Is what has happened since been worse? Yes. Would all the money and resource we committed to his removal been better used here in America? Undoubtedly. I am against us intervening unless it's WWII and a Hitler type figure emerges.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,130
    Big Bank Hank said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    Kat said:
    And you have to seriously examine "why" we tried to get other countries to become more democratic. There are issues of slaughtering and gassing civilians, etc. I can't recall the US interfering with other countries that treat their people well. There are many fine points about what our government does and I surely don't agree with everything but trying to do the right thing is important. Have a great weekend, everyone. :)

    and Libya is far worse off, ISIS & Al Qaeda swept in and a lot of Libyans were slaughtered or enslaved, you can't believe something just because it's on the news, the media in this country is wrong more often than not, and the US Government is untruthful as much as it is truthful. Most of what we were fed on Libya was propaganda.
    Dude, you seriously need to stop getting your information from internet memes.  Ghaddafi supplied those things to people of his party and supporters but brutally repressed and killed anyone of dissent.  This includes the massive war crimes in Misrurata, his own people.  "you can't believe something just because it's on the news,"... well you believe something just because it's on a meme.  This is the 3rd or 4th you've pushed forward.  
    and things are far worse in Libya we helped orchestrate his death, that is indisputable regardless which news source you use, everyone is in agreement on that, so if we hadn't gotten involved some people would suffer, but not nearly as many who have suffered since, was Ghaddafi a good person? No. Is what has happened since been worse? Yes. Would all the money and resource we committed to his removal been better used here in America? Undoubtedly. I am against us intervening unless it's WWII and a Hitler type figure emerges.
    Where were you when Bush invaded Iraq?
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  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    Kat said:
    And you have to seriously examine "why" we tried to get other countries to become more democratic. There are issues of slaughtering and gassing civilians, etc. I can't recall the US interfering with other countries that treat their people well. There are many fine points about what our government does and I surely don't agree with everything but trying to do the right thing is important. Have a great weekend, everyone. :)

    and Libya is far worse off, ISIS & Al Qaeda swept in and a lot of Libyans were slaughtered or enslaved, you can't believe something just because it's on the news, the media in this country is wrong more often than not, and the US Government is untruthful as much as it is truthful. Most of what we were fed on Libya was propaganda.
    Dude, you seriously need to stop getting your information from internet memes.  Ghaddafi supplied those things to people of his party and supporters but brutally repressed and killed anyone of dissent.  This includes the massive war crimes in Misrurata, his own people.  "you can't believe something just because it's on the news,"... well you believe something just because it's on a meme.  This is the 3rd or 4th you've pushed forward.  
    and things are far worse in Libya we helped orchestrate his death, that is indisputable regardless which news source you use, everyone is in agreement on that, so if we hadn't gotten involved some people would suffer, but not nearly as many who have suffered since, was Ghaddafi a good person? No. Is what has happened since been worse? Yes. Would all the money and resource we committed to his removal been better used here in America? Undoubtedly. I am against us intervening unless it's WWII and a Hitler type figure emerges.
    Where were you when Bush invaded Iraq?
    I don't like George Bush either, and I don't think we should have ever invaded Iraq, because Bush & Cheney knew there were no weapons of mass destruction, that was a lie used to remove Saddam Hussein
  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Big Bank Hank said:
    Kat said:
    And you have to seriously examine "why" we tried to get other countries to become more democratic. There are issues of slaughtering and gassing civilians, etc. I can't recall the US interfering with other countries that treat their people well. There are many fine points about what our government does and I surely don't agree with everything but trying to do the right thing is important. Have a great weekend, everyone. :)

    and Libya is far worse off, ISIS & Al Qaeda swept in and a lot of Libyans were slaughtered or enslaved, you can't believe something just because it's on the news, the media in this country is wrong more often than not, and the US Government is untruthful as much as it is truthful. Most of what we were fed on Libya was propaganda.
    Dude, you seriously need to stop getting your information from internet memes.  Ghaddafi supplied those things to people of his party and supporters but brutally repressed and killed anyone of dissent.  This includes the massive war crimes in Misrurata, his own people.  "you can't believe something just because it's on the news,"... well you believe something just because it's on a meme.  This is the 3rd or 4th you've pushed forward.  
    and things are far worse in Libya we helped orchestrate his death, that is indisputable regardless which news source you use, everyone is in agreement on that, so if we hadn't gotten involved some people would suffer, but not nearly as many who have suffered since, was Ghaddafi a good person? No. Is what has happened since been worse? Yes. Would all the money and resource we committed to his removal been better used here in America? Undoubtedly. I am against us intervening unless it's WWII and a Hitler type figure emerges.
    Where were you when Bush invaded Iraq?
    I am a Socialist and I am just not supportive of the Military Industrial Complex, Eisenhower tried to warn us all in his farewell address

  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    Did I read somewhere Russia funneled money through the NRA?

    Paging Dr Mueller 
  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    WTF does Libya have to do do with anything? lol
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,599
    Way too many unhelpful memes around here lately...
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  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    my2hands said:
    WTF does Libya have to do do with anything? lol
    because we helped overthrow their government
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