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  • my2hands said:
    WTF does Libya have to do do with anything? lol
    because we helped overthrow their government
    So please start a “Why did the US overthrow Libya” thread or whatever you’d like to name it. If you want to post about Team Trump Treason and his policy toward Libya then this thread would be appropriate. But good luck with that.
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  • mrussel1
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    mrussel1 said:
    Kat said:
    And you have to seriously examine "why" we tried to get other countries to become more democratic. There are issues of slaughtering and gassing civilians, etc. I can't recall the US interfering with other countries that treat their people well. There are many fine points about what our government does and I surely don't agree with everything but trying to do the right thing is important. Have a great weekend, everyone. :)

    and Libya is far worse off, ISIS & Al Qaeda swept in and a lot of Libyans were slaughtered or enslaved, you can't believe something just because it's on the news, the media in this country is wrong more often than not, and the US Government is untruthful as much as it is truthful. Most of what we were fed on Libya was propaganda.
    Dude, you seriously need to stop getting your information from internet memes.  Ghaddafi supplied those things to people of his party and supporters but brutally repressed and killed anyone of dissent.  This includes the massive war crimes in Misrurata, his own people.  "you can't believe something just because it's on the news,"... well you believe something just because it's on a meme.  This is the 3rd or 4th you've pushed forward.  
    and things are far worse in Libya we helped orchestrate his death, that is indisputable regardless which news source you use, everyone is in agreement on that, so if we hadn't gotten involved some people would suffer, but not nearly as many who have suffered since, was Ghaddafi a good person? No. Is what has happened since been worse? Yes. Would all the money and resource we committed to his removal been better used here in America? Undoubtedly. I am against us intervening unless it's WWII and a Hitler type figure emerges.
    I am anti-interventionist as well, unless the clear case of genocide, war crimes, etc. (Bosnia for example).  But you posted a pro-Gadaffi meme that extols him.  As far as whether more or less people have suffered since his 42 year reign of totalitarianism has ended, you cannot possibly answer that.  No one knows the full extent of the crimes he committed against his people.  
  • Big Bank Hank
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    my2hands said:
    WTF does Libya have to do do with anything? lol
    because we helped overthrow their government
    So please start a “Why did the US overthrow Libya” thread or whatever you’d like to name it. If you want to post about Team Trump Treason and his policy toward Libya then this thread would be appropriate. But good luck with that.
    no, the point is that we should be getting pushed into a war, for doing things we have done ourselves, it is in fact very relevant to all the Russian hysteria being pushed. I don't see any upside to getting into a nuclear war with Russia, and with this loose cannon in the White House a lot of people are failing to see the potential seriousness of pushing Russian Propaganda, a lot of which is pure fiction, we should be concerned more about all the stuff that needs to be fixed here, and no one is doing that, I promise you Mike Pence would be much worse.
  • my2hands said:
    WTF does Libya have to do do with anything? lol
    because we helped overthrow their government
    So please start a “Why did the US overthrow Libya” thread or whatever you’d like to name it. If you want to post about Team Trump Treason and his policy toward Libya then this thread would be appropriate. But good luck with that.
    no, the point is that we should be getting pushed into a war, for doing things we have done ourselves, it is in fact very relevant to all the Russian hysteria being pushed. I don't see any upside to getting into a nuclear war with Russia, and with this loose cannon in the White House a lot of people are failing to see the potential seriousness of pushing Russian Propaganda, a lot of which is pure fiction, we should be concerned more about all the stuff that needs to be fixed here, and no one is doing that, I promise you Mike Pence would be much worse.
    This is the Team Trump Treason thread. Topic/subject integrity. 
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  • Big Bank Hank
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    my2hands said:
    WTF does Libya have to do do with anything? lol
    because we helped overthrow their government
    So please start a “Why did the US overthrow Libya” thread or whatever you’d like to name it. If you want to post about Team Trump Treason and his policy toward Libya then this thread would be appropriate. But good luck with that.
    no, the point is that we should be getting pushed into a war, for doing things we have done ourselves, it is in fact very relevant to all the Russian hysteria being pushed. I don't see any upside to getting into a nuclear war with Russia, and with this loose cannon in the White House a lot of people are failing to see the potential seriousness of pushing Russian Propaganda, a lot of which is pure fiction, we should be concerned more about all the stuff that needs to be fixed here, and no one is doing that, I promise you Mike Pence would be much worse.
    This is the Team Trump Treason thread. Topic/subject integrity. 
    But Pence would be worse, just saying

  • Pence hasn’t been compromised to do Putin’s bidding. Pence wouldn’t get re-elected as POTUS. We could survive a year of Pence.
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  • JC29856
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    "Russia Hysteria Is Making US International Laughing Stock"- Noam Chomsky this is awesome, the Far Left are the only ones who seem to get how ridiculous this is

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MRQlC9wnok

    who was the first to coin the ever often used phrase "Russia Russia Russia"?
  • Big Bank Hank
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    Pence hasn’t been compromised to do Putin’s bidding. Pence wouldn’t get re-elected as POTUS. We could survive a year of Pence.
    yeah I don't think so, if Trump is doing Putin's bidding why did he bomb Russia's only foreign held military base in Syria?
  • The Juggler
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    Pence hasn’t been compromised to do Putin’s bidding. Pence wouldn’t get re-elected as POTUS. We could survive a year of Pence.
    yeah I don't think so, if Trump is doing Putin's bidding why did he bomb Russia's only foreign held military base in Syria?
    You mean the one that was fully operationally just a few days later?

    Are Russians controlling your account, Bank?
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  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    I think Trump is an idiot, and it speaks very poorly about our country that the only 2 legitimate choices we had for President were Trump & Hillary Clinton (honestly the only current Republican I could ever support would be Rand Paul)
  • The Juggler
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    Please stop posting dumb memes. Reminds me of pjfanwillneverleave’s posts...
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    I think Pence would probably be worse as well. Wouldnt Pence be more effective than a Buffoon? Although Trump has gotten his supreme court pick and tax cuts. All Trump needs now is another war he can call his own and he will have scored the neocon trifecta.

    I also feel Bernie would of won. He defenitly would have syphoned some of the deplorable votes away from Trump. Enough, I believe, to make up the small vote differences in Michigan, Wisconson, and Pennsylvania. Not to mention the enthusiasm I feel his candidacy would have generated compared to that of Hillarys. Was anybody really excited to vote for Hillary? Guess we will never know for sure thanks to the rigged primaries. 

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  • Big Bank Hank
    Big Bank Hank Seattle, WA Posts: 8,639
    Please stop posting dumb memes. Reminds me of pjfanwillneverleave’s posts...
    I will do as I feel, and you do as you feel, I would never try to impose my way of doing things on you, and neither should you on me, certainly it's your right to be critical, but at the end of the day, I really don't give a shit
  • JC29856
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    Collusion Collusion Collusion!!
    Treason Treason Treason!!
    Sanctions Sanctions Sanctions!!
    Trump has already killed Russians in Syria, greatly escalated nuclear tensions with Russia, allowed the sale of arms to Ukraine (a move Obama refused for fear of angering Moscow), establishing a permanent military presence in Syria with the goal of effecting regime change, forced RTand Sputnik to register as foreign agents, expanded NATO with the addition of Montenegro, assigned Russia hawk Kurt Volker as special representative to Ukraine, shut down a Russian consulate in San Francisco and thrown out Russian diplomats as part of continued back-and-forth hostile diplomatic exchanges.
  • mrussel1
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    Please stop posting dumb memes. Reminds me of pjfanwillneverleave’s posts...
    I will do as I feel, and you do as you feel, I would never try to impose my way of doing things on you, and neither should you on me, certainly it's your right to be critical, but at the end of the day, I really don't give a shit
    Someone was booted or suspended for posting meme after meme.  I don't know if it's an official 10C rule, but it's definitely something enforced in the AMT.  
  • Pence hasn’t been compromised to do Putin’s bidding. Pence wouldn’t get re-elected as POTUS. We could survive a year of Pence.
    yeah I don't think so, if Trump is doing Putin's bidding why did he bomb Russia's only foreign held military base in Syria?
    You mean the one that was fully operationally just a few days later?

    Are Russians controlling your account, Bank?
    And the one they warned ahead of time so the military assets could be removed? Yea, that really showed Putin.
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  • mrussel1
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    JC29856 said:
    Collusion Collusion Collusion!!
    Treason Treason Treason!!
    Sanctions Sanctions Sanctions!!
    Trump has already killed Russians in Syria, greatly escalated nuclear tensions with Russia, allowed the sale of arms to Ukraine (a move Obama refused for fear of angering Moscow), establishing a permanent military presence in Syria with the goal of effecting regime change, forced RTand Sputnik to register as foreign agents, expanded NATO with the addition of Montenegro, assigned Russia hawk Kurt Volker as special representative to Ukraine, shut down a Russian consulate in San Francisco and thrown out Russian diplomats as part of continued back-and-forth hostile diplomatic exchanges.
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    mrussel1 said:
    JC29856 said:
    Collusion Collusion Collusion!!
    Treason Treason Treason!!
    Sanctions Sanctions Sanctions!!
    Trump has already killed Russians in Syria, greatly escalated nuclear tensions with Russia, allowed the sale of arms to Ukraine (a move Obama refused for fear of angering Moscow), establishing a permanent military presence in Syria with the goal of effecting regime change, forced RTand Sputnik to register as foreign agents, expanded NATO with the addition of Montenegro, assigned Russia hawk Kurt Volker as special representative to Ukraine, shut down a Russian consulate in San Francisco and thrown out Russian diplomats as part of continued back-and-forth hostile diplomatic exchanges.
    Apologist for tyranny
    credit for not Gish Galloping... appreciated! the short answer to your rambling in the other thread with respect the the 13 indictments is NO
  • JC29856
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    my2hands said:
    WTF does Libya have to do do with anything? lol
    because we helped overthrow their government
    So please start a “Why did the US overthrow Libya” thread or whatever you’d like to name it. If you want to post about Team Trump Treason and his policy toward Libya then this thread would be appropriate. But good luck with that.
    no, the point is that we should be getting pushed into a war, for doing things we have done ourselves, it is in fact very relevant to all the Russian hysteria being pushed. I don't see any upside to getting into a nuclear war with Russia, and with this loose cannon in the White House a lot of people are failing to see the potential seriousness of pushing Russian Propaganda, a lot of which is pure fiction, we should be concerned more about all the stuff that needs to be fixed here, and no one is doing that, I promise you Mike Pence would be much worse.
    This is the Team Trump Treason thread. Topic/subject integrity. 
    quick someone call the thread integrity police!
  • JC29856 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    JC29856 said:
    Collusion Collusion Collusion!!
    Treason Treason Treason!!
    Sanctions Sanctions Sanctions!!
    Trump has already killed Russians in Syria, greatly escalated nuclear tensions with Russia, allowed the sale of arms to Ukraine (a move Obama refused for fear of angering Moscow), establishing a permanent military presence in Syria with the goal of effecting regime change, forced RTand Sputnik to register as foreign agents, expanded NATO with the addition of Montenegro, assigned Russia hawk Kurt Volker as special representative to Ukraine, shut down a Russian consulate in San Francisco and thrown out Russian diplomats as part of continued back-and-forth hostile diplomatic exchanges.
    Apologist for tyranny
    credit for not Gish Galloping... appreciated! the short answer to your rambling in the other thread with respect the the 13 indictments is NO
    Why don’t you answer in the other thread? Why the secrecy? Gates plea got you down?
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