Why did they boo Eddie?

mace1229 said:

Bentleyspop said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mace1229 said:

PJ_Soul said:

bootlegger10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

one thing to note......I haven't heard one democrat complain about Ed's banter. If he was pro-Bush or pro-any republican, I'm pretty sure the complainers would be from a different side. 

Dems wouldn't be there. 

Agreed.... I think. It's actually kind of hard to judge this, since I can't think of any politically vocal and popular band that is both really good and right wing. I mean, what would that even be like?? Can anyone think of any examples of this? And if this does exist, or if it did, wouldn't they be ranting and singing about shit like guns rights, pro-life, private healthcare, low taxes, and trickle down economics?? Yeah, I would definitely not be into a band like that!

Are you joking or serious?
when it comes to listening to the music I couldn't care less about the political stance of a band.
i can't imagine not listening to my favorite music because of who they want to be president.
now if it was something like human trafficking or something they were into, then yeah. But because we have a different opinion on oboerion? I'll write Pro Choice on your other arm for you if it gets me another encore.

Nothing gets my blood boiling more than guys with a differing opinion on oboerion.

It enrages me.

At least I think so?

riley540 said:

Bentleyspop said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

bootlegger10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

one thing to note......I haven't heard one democrat complain about Ed's banter. If he was pro-Bush or pro-any republican, I'm pretty sure the complainers would be from a different side. 

Dems wouldn't be there. 

for the life of me, i can't figure out why any lifetime republican would be interested in this band. from their lyrics, to their political and social stances. i wouldn't be able to separate that from the music. because half of it IS the music. 

I've  never understood it either. This band is not shy about its political leaning and/or beliefs. They are clearly liberal,  pro-choice, anti-war, pro gay marriage, etc etc etc.

So the fact that there are people on here who claim to be fans of Pearl Jam yet also claim to be hard line republicans, or Christian Conservatives, racists, white supremacists, homophobes, etc 
I just don't  understand  or believe that they are truly fans of Pearl Jam.

Woah, 
i have leaned right of center for most of my life and I think you have the wrong idea about most of us. The premise of being libertarian is that I just think the government should be minimally involved in our lives. I think people should do what they want. That’s how a lot of people on the right are. The news makes everyone on the right out to be racists, or Christians, ect ect ect. There is an extreme minority and you shouldn’t think they represent all of us. 

I just think the government really blows a lot of the time and as people we can find better solutions for problems. I always say progress starts in neighborhoods, not at the top. I’m not pro trump, I wasn’t pro Obama. I really think the government sucks and that’s my view. Which is a libertarian view, which is considered a right wing view. 

Sorry I wasn't  trying  to denigrate everyone with "right" leanings. Just pointing the finger at the people who come on here and profess to be white supremacists or racists or homophobes or xenophobia or anti-semites.

And just to be clear I do not now nor have I ever supported any person  or artist who has a differing opinion about oboerion.

Who has professed to be racist?
And you think you can't be Christian and a Pearl Jam fan? That's one of the most absurd things I've heard.
i don't see how different personal opinions would impact Joe I enjoy their music. It seems very narrow minded to me to think you can appreciate people who are different than you.

mace1229 said:

Bentleyspop said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mace1229 said:

PJ_Soul said:

bootlegger10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

one thing to note......I haven't heard one democrat complain about Ed's banter. If he was pro-Bush or pro-any republican, I'm pretty sure the complainers would be from a different side. 

Dems wouldn't be there. 

Agreed.... I think. It's actually kind of hard to judge this, since I can't think of any politically vocal and popular band that is both really good and right wing. I mean, what would that even be like?? Can anyone think of any examples of this? And if this does exist, or if it did, wouldn't they be ranting and singing about shit like guns rights, pro-life, private healthcare, low taxes, and trickle down economics?? Yeah, I would definitely not be into a band like that!

Are you joking or serious?
when it comes to listening to the music I couldn't care less about the political stance of a band.
i can't imagine not listening to my favorite music because of who they want to be president.
now if it was something like human trafficking or something they were into, then yeah. But because we have a different opinion on oboerion? I'll write Pro Choice on your other arm for you if it gets me another encore.

Nothing gets my blood boiling more than guys with a differing opinion on oboerion.

It enrages me.

At least I think so?

riley540 said:

Bentleyspop said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

bootlegger10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

one thing to note......I haven't heard one democrat complain about Ed's banter. If he was pro-Bush or pro-any republican, I'm pretty sure the complainers would be from a different side. 

Dems wouldn't be there. 

for the life of me, i can't figure out why any lifetime republican would be interested in this band. from their lyrics, to their political and social stances. i wouldn't be able to separate that from the music. because half of it IS the music. 

I've  never understood it either. This band is not shy about its political leaning and/or beliefs. They are clearly liberal,  pro-choice, anti-war, pro gay marriage, etc etc etc.

So the fact that there are people on here who claim to be fans of Pearl Jam yet also claim to be hard line republicans, or Christian Conservatives, racists, white supremacists, homophobes, etc 
I just don't  understand  or believe that they are truly fans of Pearl Jam.

Woah, 
i have leaned right of center for most of my life and I think you have the wrong idea about most of us. The premise of being libertarian is that I just think the government should be minimally involved in our lives. I think people should do what they want. That’s how a lot of people on the right are. The news makes everyone on the right out to be racists, or Christians, ect ect ect. There is an extreme minority and you shouldn’t think they represent all of us. 

I just think the government really blows a lot of the time and as people we can find better solutions for problems. I always say progress starts in neighborhoods, not at the top. I’m not pro trump, I wasn’t pro Obama. I really think the government sucks and that’s my view. Which is a libertarian view, which is considered a right wing view. 

Sorry I wasn't  trying  to denigrate everyone with "right" leanings. Just pointing the finger at the people who come on here and profess to be white supremacists or racists or homophobes or xenophobia or anti-semites.

And just to be clear I do not now nor have I ever supported any person  or artist who has a differing opinion about oboerion.

Who has professed to be racist?
And you think you can't be Christian and a Pearl Jam fan? That's one of the most absurd things I've heard.
i don't see how different personal opinions would impact Joe I enjoy their music. It seems very narrow minded to me to think you can appreciate people who are different than you.

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Once a guy turns out to be some person who spews stuff I don't care for... I stop listening to them.

For example, Elvis Costello said. "I hate Led Zeppelin and everything the've spawned." Needle drags across the record and... no more listen to. Get serious, Elvis... they're infinitely greater than you.

Nugent is the same. "Swan dive to the street" (Dog Eat Dog) used to flow through many playlists on my Sony Sports Walkman as I worked out and really worked for me. I can't separate the man from the music now and his catalogue has been rendered useless to me.

I do like Ted's stance on crime and punishment though.

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Once a guy turns out to be some person who spews stuff I don't care for... I stop listening to them.

For example, Elvis Costello said. "I hate Led Zeppelin and everything the've spawned." Needle drags across the record and... no more listen to. Get serious, Elvis... they're infinitely greater than you.

Nugent is the same. "Swan dive to the street" (Dog Eat Dog) used to flow through many playlists on my Sony Sports Walkman as I worked out and really worked for me. I can't separate the man from the music now and his catalogue has been rendered useless to me.

I do like Ted's stance on crime and punishment though.

and water is wet. 

and quenches your thirst too! Necessary for life.

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Once a guy turns out to be some person who spews stuff I don't care for... I stop listening to them.

For example, Elvis Costello said. "I hate Led Zeppelin and everything the've spawned." Needle drags across the record and... no more listen to. Get serious, Elvis... they're infinitely greater than you.

Nugent is the same. "Swan dive to the street" (Dog Eat Dog) used to flow through many playlists on my Sony Sports Walkman as I worked out and really worked for me. I can't separate the man from the music now and his catalogue has been rendered useless to me.

I do like Ted's stance on crime and punishment though.

and water is wet. 

and quenches your thirst too! Necessary for life.

no, that's beer. B-E-E-R. beer. 

vaggar99 said:

brianlux said:

I have to admit I've always been a bit surprised that there are hard right leaning Pearl Jam fans, but then maybe the music has a broad enough appeal that the band members' obviously strong left-leaning personalities (which do often come out in the music) doen't matter as much to those fans. 

The people I am really puzzled about at times are those folks who are outspokenly right-wing and who by far mostly post on AMT and yet have little to say about the music itself.  I don't get that (and also don't see that happen as much as in the past).

I guess if I looked at it in reverse, if there was a band that was outwardly and strongly right wing (and face it, that's pretty small company) and yet I thought their music was outstanding, I might call myself a fan, but only a fan of the music.  I doubt I would have any interest in talking on-line about any aspect of that band other than their music. And if that band became increasing outspoken about an overall right wing agenda, I would lose interest pretty quickly.  For example, he may have done some decent work early on, but I have no Ted Nugent in my record collection nor any interest in doing so.

although PJ (Eddie) write a lot of political songs, the majority are not.  The ones with universal themes (family, love, loss etc) tend to also be the most popular.  

Recently, I went on a Smashing Pumpkins nostalgia binge.  I listened to all the old albums (and some new) and I also watched a bunch of more recent Billy Corgan interviews.  Turns out the guy has been on Alex Jones several times and happens to be friends with him.  He seems to be a Trump supporter.  He also owns a wrestling league.  He's basically the musical poster boy for the alt-right.  But you know what? I've never admired the guy more.  His songs and musical expertise transcend politics.  I suppose righty PJ fans might look at Eddie the same way

mcgruff10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

Once a guy turns out to be some person who spews stuff I don't care for... I stop listening to them.

For example, Elvis Costello said. "I hate Led Zeppelin and everything the've spawned." Needle drags across the record and... no more listen to. Get serious, Elvis... they're infinitely greater than you.

Nugent is the same. "Swan dive to the street" (Dog Eat Dog) used to flow through many playlists on my Sony Sports Walkman as I worked out and really worked for me. I can't separate the man from the music now and his catalogue has been rendered useless to me.

I do like Ted's stance on crime and punishment though.

and water is wet. 

and quenches your thirst too! Necessary for life.

no, that's beer. B-E-E-R. beer. 

lol

I stand corrected I do. I should go chug one right now!

the two of you should mail me some good canadian ipa's that I can't get here in the states.

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

hedonist said:

vaggar99 said:

brianlux said:

I have to admit I've always been a bit surprised that there are hard right leaning Pearl Jam fans, but then maybe the music has a broad enough appeal that the band members' obviously strong left-leaning personalities (which do often come out in the music) doen't matter as much to those fans. 

The people I am really puzzled about at times are those folks who are outspokenly right-wing and who by far mostly post on AMT and yet have little to say about the music itself.  I don't get that (and also don't see that happen as much as in the past).

I guess if I looked at it in reverse, if there was a band that was outwardly and strongly right wing (and face it, that's pretty small company) and yet I thought their music was outstanding, I might call myself a fan, but only a fan of the music.  I doubt I would have any interest in talking on-line about any aspect of that band other than their music. And if that band became increasing outspoken about an overall right wing agenda, I would lose interest pretty quickly.  For example, he may have done some decent work early on, but I have no Ted Nugent in my record collection nor any interest in doing so.

although PJ (Eddie) write a lot of political songs, the majority are not.  The ones with universal themes (family, love, loss etc) tend to also be the most popular.  

Recently, I went on a Smashing Pumpkins nostalgia binge.  I listened to all the old albums (and some new) and I also watched a bunch of more recent Billy Corgan interviews.  Turns out the guy has been on Alex Jones several times and happens to be friends with him.  He seems to be a Trump supporter.  He also owns a wrestling league.  He's basically the musical poster boy for the alt-right.  But you know what? I've never admired the guy more.  His songs and musical expertise transcend politics.  I suppose righty PJ fans might look at Eddie the same way

Bolded part, beautiful.  And applies to many.

(sometimes, you gotta keep 'em separated!)

cue Offspring...