Why did they boo Eddie?

bootlegger10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

bootlegger10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

bootlegger10 said:

They booed because Eddie spoke his views in a very disrespectful way.  They could have played the song and said a few words, but I think the GW mask was over the top and very disrespectful when considering they were playing NYC where the wounds were still raw.  THey deserved to be booed not because they were wrong (they were right), but in the disrespectful way they presented their views.

So talk nicely about GW? Because he's the president and all?

He got booed by a bunch of people who blindly followed their leader just as they blindly followed their faith.

He was a turd. An imbecile who was responsible for countless innocent lives. He got more respect than he deserved that night.

I'm not saying the crowd wouldn't have booed if he was just talking about Bush and why he thought the war was wrong, but my theory is that it wouldn't have gone down so bad if he didn't wear the mask and do his little routine. 

I'm not comparing Bush to Jesus or anything, but if you want to disagree verbally that Jesus existed with a Christian most will politely disagree or just tolerate you.  If you dress up as Jesus and mockingly do something, you might generate a more angry response.  That's all I'm saying.

And you wouldn't be wrong.

I guess I'm saying (or trying to say) when he pulled his stunt... he didn't truly care how Bush supporters were going to receive it.

It is a fine line with wanting to push your agenda and wanting to piss off people that paid to see you play music. 

People pay to see the band perform. Anyone who didn't expect political commentary from Ed doesn't know much about the band. The onus is on the artists to present their art however they wish. They can choose to try to cater to their audience or not, but the audience doesn't get to choose what they see and hear. 

It is weak.

I've never booed anything and never would, it's childish.

I have boomed on occasion, particularly during Crazy Mary.

bootlegger10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

bootlegger10 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

bootlegger10 said:

They booed because Eddie spoke his views in a very disrespectful way.  They could have played the song and said a few words, but I think the GW mask was over the top and very disrespectful when considering they were playing NYC where the wounds were still raw.  THey deserved to be booed not because they were wrong (they were right), but in the disrespectful way they presented their views.

So talk nicely about GW? Because he's the president and all?

He got booed by a bunch of people who blindly followed their leader just as they blindly followed their faith.

He was a turd. An imbecile who was responsible for countless innocent lives. He got more respect than he deserved that night.

I'm not saying the crowd wouldn't have booed if he was just talking about Bush and why he thought the war was wrong, but my theory is that it wouldn't have gone down so bad if he didn't wear the mask and do his little routine. 

I'm not comparing Bush to Jesus or anything, but if you want to disagree verbally that Jesus existed with a Christian most will politely disagree or just tolerate you.  If you dress up as Jesus and mockingly do something, you might generate a more angry response.  That's all I'm saying.

And you wouldn't be wrong.

I guess I'm saying (or trying to say) when he pulled his stunt... he didn't truly care how Bush supporters were going to receive it.

It is a fine line with wanting to push your agenda and wanting to piss off people that paid to see you play music. 

I highly doubt he was TRYING to piss people off, thirty is just saying he thinks he just didn't give a shit if that was the reaction. 

sweeperman said:

They booed because he was talking / lecturing.  It's that simple. If we pay $100 for a music concert we want to here music.  

We can hear our parents lecture us for free.

Sing, Sing. Sing

if you don't know what to expect at an EV/PJ show, then that's your own fault. 

Matthew Good (canadian musician) is extremely political, and he doesn't shy away from that at his shows either. He went so far years ago as to actually sell shirts that said "Shut up and sing" because so many people yelled that out at his shows. It still blows me away how ignorant people can be. 

my2hands said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

my2hands said:

Ahhhhhh, the good ol' days when Pearl Jam & EV had balls...

Uniondale is one of the hilights of the bands history in my opinion... standing on stage not backing down to the criticism... fired right into a killer version of Know Your Rights afterwards... LOVE IT

Loved the comments at Hershey, EV was right then and he is still right 

Bush era Pearl Jam was the best!!!  Now we have a bunch of parents pimping out their children at shows for tambo's and a family fun atmosphere... 2003-2008 was real fucking rock n roll

they still had/have balls. They just put them away for safe keeping 2008-2016. 

The Fixer, and Backspacer in general, had no balls. No edge. No nothing. 

art imitates life. would you like them to fake being unhappy and angry?

HughFreakingDillon said:

sweeperman said:

They booed because he was talking / lecturing.  It's that simple. If we pay $100 for a music concert we want to here music.  

We can hear our parents lecture us for free.

Sing, Sing. Sing

if you don't know what to expect at an EV/PJ show, then that's your own fault. 

I know what to expect when I go in for a root canal. 
Just because they know what to expect doesn't mean they have to be happy about it.

I agree they have the right to say and do whatever they want. They've also earned it at this point. But I also see the point with ticket prices now approaching $100 each, and many spend 10 times that in travel expenses, they want to hear music and not a speech.
It doesn't bother me and I don't boo, but I can understand why many would get annoyed or upset.
The closest I came was during the first solo EV tour. EV wore that Bush mask and a guitar tech or someone came out dressed as the devil to give him a blow job. I personally wasn't offended, but I Just rolled my eyes because I didn't pay that money to watch Eddie act out a blow job. The thing went on long enough to have played another song, so I think it was fair to say I was annoyed. But I remember thinking if people were upset over those other incidents, I was surprised there wasn't a bigger reaction to that one. 

mace1229 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

sweeperman said:

They booed because he was talking / lecturing.  It's that simple. If we pay $100 for a music concert we want to here music.  

We can hear our parents lecture us for free.

Sing, Sing. Sing

if you don't know what to expect at an EV/PJ show, then that's your own fault. 

I know what to expect when I go in for a root canal. 
Just because they know what to expect doesn't mean they have to be happy about it.

I agree they have the right to say and do whatever they want. They've also earned it at this point. But I also see the point with ticket prices now approaching $100 each, and many spend 10 times that in travel expenses, they want to hear music and not a speech.
It doesn't bother me and I don't boo, but I can understand why many would get annoyed or upset.
The closest I came was during the first solo EV tour. EV wore that Bush mask and a guitar tech or someone came out dressed as the devil to give him a blow job. I personally wasn't offended, but I Just rolled my eyes because I didn't pay that money to watch Eddie act out a blow job. The thing went on long enough to have played another song, so I think it was fair to say I was annoyed. But I remember thinking if people were upset over those other incidents, I was surprised there wasn't a bigger reaction to that one. 

I get it. it is fair to be annoyed or whatever. But to take it one step further and say "shut up and sing" is akin to thinking they are hired help there to entertain us like court jesters. they are not. nor does the amount of money you pay to see a show does equate to them owing you anything. 

Was I slightly annoyed at Ed for trotting out that doctor at the St Paul show to talk to the crowd for 20 minutes about EB? Fuck yes I was. I don't get to see the band much because of my own financial situation and how little they come to my city. But would I ever say to anyone "jesus, I paid good money to come here! they owe me songs and not speeches!". No. that's a risk I take. It's their platform, they can do what they want. that's just how it works.