Why did they boo Eddie?

rgambs

I'm not saying that there is no enjoyment to be had from hockey but it just seems sad to me that people put so much of themselves into something like that.

dankind

KC138045 said:

rgambs said:

dankind said:

When I hear the U-S-A! chant, blind patriotism doesn't come to mind at all; this does:

https://youtu.be/qSkc6c35A4Q

And that was one of the happiest days of my young life.

One of the happiest days of your life was spent watching other people engage in meaningless pursuits?
That makes me sad.

This was hardly a mealiness pursuit considering the political climate between the USA and Soviet Union at the time and the 1980 summer Olympic boycott.

My young life was mostly being abused and moved around from project to trailer park to ramshackle shack, so yeah, this was pretty freaking amazing.

Come to think of it. Most of my happiest days have been watching other people engage in "meaningless pursuits": the Rangers winning the cup in 1994, the Red Sox winning the World Series in 2004, Pearl Jam finally playing Fenway Park in 2016. When I accomplish something "meaningful" with mine, that usually involves work. I'd rather watch other people's "meaningless pursuits" than have to do anything myself.

My favorite thing to do is sleep. Second to that, it's investing my time and money in other people's "meaningless pursuits" (i.e., listening to music, watching movies, reading books, going to museums, attending baseball and hockey games, seeing shows, etc.). 

KC138045

rgambs said:

I'm not saying that there is no enjoyment to be had from hockey but it just seems sad to me that people put so much of themselves into something like that.

People put so much of themselves in a lot of things.  Sports, music, art, literature.  Are those all meaningless pursuits?  What you view as meaningless some people have a lot of passion for and may also hold a special meaning to them for personal reasons.

PJ_Soul

rgambs said:

Me serious or dankind serious?

You.

PJ_Soul

KC138045 said:

rgambs said:

I'm not saying that there is no enjoyment to be had from hockey but it just seems sad to me that people put so much of themselves into something like that.

People put so much of themselves in a lot of things.  Sports, music, art, literature.  Are those all meaningless pursuits?  What you view as meaningless some people have a lot of passion for and may also hold a special meaning to them for personal reasons.

Yeah, these are the things that actually make life fun and enjoyable (among other things). Fun and excitement and a shared happy experience is anything but meaningless.

mcgruff10

dankind said:

KC138045 said:

rgambs said:

dankind said:

When I hear the U-S-A! chant, blind patriotism doesn't come to mind at all; this does:

https://youtu.be/qSkc6c35A4Q

And that was one of the happiest days of my young life.

One of the happiest days of your life was spent watching other people engage in meaningless pursuits?
That makes me sad.

This was hardly a mealiness pursuit considering the political climate between the USA and Soviet Union at the time and the 1980 summer Olympic boycott.

My young life was mostly being abused and moved around from project to trailer park to ramshackle shack, so yeah, this was pretty freaking amazing.

Come to think of it. Most of my happiest days have been watching other people engage in "meaningless pursuits": the Rangers winning the cup in 1994, the Red Sox winning the World Series in 2004, Pearl Jam finally playing Fenway Park in 2016. When I accomplish something "meaningful" with mine, that usually involves work. I'd rather watch other people's "meaningless pursuits" than have to do anything myself.

My favorite thing to do is sleep. Second to that, it's investing my time and money in other people's "meaningless pursuits" (i.e., listening to music, watching movies, reading books, going to museums, attending baseball and hockey games, seeing shows, etc.). 

The 94 Stanley cup is probably my favorite sports memory of all time. 

PJ_Soul

mcgruff10 said:

dankind said:

KC138045 said:

rgambs said:

dankind said:

When I hear the U-S-A! chant, blind patriotism doesn't come to mind at all; this does:

https://youtu.be/qSkc6c35A4Q

And that was one of the happiest days of my young life.

One of the happiest days of your life was spent watching other people engage in meaningless pursuits?
That makes me sad.

This was hardly a mealiness pursuit considering the political climate between the USA and Soviet Union at the time and the 1980 summer Olympic boycott.

My young life was mostly being abused and moved around from project to trailer park to ramshackle shack, so yeah, this was pretty freaking amazing.

Come to think of it. Most of my happiest days have been watching other people engage in "meaningless pursuits": the Rangers winning the cup in 1994, the Red Sox winning the World Series in 2004, Pearl Jam finally playing Fenway Park in 2016. When I accomplish something "meaningful" with mine, that usually involves work. I'd rather watch other people's "meaningless pursuits" than have to do anything myself.

My favorite thing to do is sleep. Second to that, it's investing my time and money in other people's "meaningless pursuits" (i.e., listening to music, watching movies, reading books, going to museums, attending baseball and hockey games, seeing shows, etc.). 

The 94 Stanley cup is probably my favorite sports memory of all time. 

Oh God. The '94 Stanley Cup is definitely one of the most memorable moments of my life, that's for sure, but not my favorite! Tear gas and pepper spray fucking hurt. Almost as much as seeing how disgusting and mindless people can be. And more than seeing your team lose like that. So fucking close man. Fuck.

mcgruff10

PJ_Soul said:

mcgruff10 said:

dankind said:

KC138045 said:

rgambs said:

dankind said:

When I hear the U-S-A! chant, blind patriotism doesn't come to mind at all; this does:

https://youtu.be/qSkc6c35A4Q

And that was one of the happiest days of my young life.

One of the happiest days of your life was spent watching other people engage in meaningless pursuits?
That makes me sad.

This was hardly a mealiness pursuit considering the political climate between the USA and Soviet Union at the time and the 1980 summer Olympic boycott.

My young life was mostly being abused and moved around from project to trailer park to ramshackle shack, so yeah, this was pretty freaking amazing.

Come to think of it. Most of my happiest days have been watching other people engage in "meaningless pursuits": the Rangers winning the cup in 1994, the Red Sox winning the World Series in 2004, Pearl Jam finally playing Fenway Park in 2016. When I accomplish something "meaningful" with mine, that usually involves work. I'd rather watch other people's "meaningless pursuits" than have to do anything myself.

My favorite thing to do is sleep. Second to that, it's investing my time and money in other people's "meaningless pursuits" (i.e., listening to music, watching movies, reading books, going to museums, attending baseball and hockey games, seeing shows, etc.). 

The 94 Stanley cup is probably my favorite sports memory of all time. 

Oh God. The '94 Stanley Cup is definitely one of the most memorable moments of my life, that's for sure, but not my favorite! Tear gas and pepper spray fucking hurt. Almost as much as seeing how disgusting and mindless people can be. And more than seeing your team lose like that. So fucking close man. Fuck.

Ha ha!  Bure gets stopped by richter!!!!!  Such a great moment in my life.  It really was a fantastic series. 

HughFreakingDillon

rgambs said:

I'm not saying that there is no enjoyment to be had from hockey but it just seems sad to me that people put so much of themselves into something like that.

jesus. 

rgambs

Damn people, get out and DO something!

dankind

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

mcgruff10 said:

dankind said:

KC138045 said:

rgambs said:

dankind said:

When I hear the U-S-A! chant, blind patriotism doesn't come to mind at all; this does:

https://youtu.be/qSkc6c35A4Q

And that was one of the happiest days of my young life.

One of the happiest days of your life was spent watching other people engage in meaningless pursuits?
That makes me sad.

This was hardly a mealiness pursuit considering the political climate between the USA and Soviet Union at the time and the 1980 summer Olympic boycott.

My young life was mostly being abused and moved around from project to trailer park to ramshackle shack, so yeah, this was pretty freaking amazing.

Come to think of it. Most of my happiest days have been watching other people engage in "meaningless pursuits": the Rangers winning the cup in 1994, the Red Sox winning the World Series in 2004, Pearl Jam finally playing Fenway Park in 2016. When I accomplish something "meaningful" with mine, that usually involves work. I'd rather watch other people's "meaningless pursuits" than have to do anything myself.

My favorite thing to do is sleep. Second to that, it's investing my time and money in other people's "meaningless pursuits" (i.e., listening to music, watching movies, reading books, going to museums, attending baseball and hockey games, seeing shows, etc.). 

The 94 Stanley cup is probably my favorite sports memory of all time. 

Oh God. The '94 Stanley Cup is definitely one of the most memorable moments of my life, that's for sure, but not my favorite! Tear gas and pepper spray fucking hurt. Almost as much as seeing how disgusting and mindless people can be. And more than seeing your team lose like that. So fucking close man. Fuck.

Ha ha!  Bure gets stopped by richter!!!!!  Such a great moment in my life.  It really was a fantastic series. 

And before that series. 

Matteau!! Matteau!! Matteau!!

The guarantee!

Come the fuck on.

The best!

eddiec

dankind said:

When I hear the U-S-A! chant, blind patriotism doesn't come to mind at all; this does:

https://youtu.be/qSkc6c35A4Q

And that was one of the happiest days of my young life.

Great moment. I was at the MSG game a few weeks before when the Soviet Union railroaded us. Those were college kids against an All-Star team of professionals.
But I the USA chant meant something different back then. The 60's was only a decade earlier. We hadn't sold our souls yet.

Go Beavers

rgambs said:

Damn people, get out and DO something!

There’s no such thing as doing nothing. 

HughFreakingDillon

rgambs said:

Damn people, get out and DO something!

everyone! sit on a message board and yell at people to get outside! 

brianlux

stuckinline said:

mace1229 said:

tbergs said:

mace1229 said:

mcgruff10 said:

JC29856 said:

mcgruff10 said:

JC29856 said:

Thoughts_Arrive said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EguwlTSzc80

I thought the majority of PJ fans are democrats?

awesome stuff! when was that?

uniondale '03.  (Nassau coliseum)

when you say it turned ugly you mean, like fights broke out or throwing things at the band?

The crowd turned on him real quick.  People were screaming "fuck you" and giving him the finger.  It got really tense in my section; it felt like a fight could break out in any moment.  The walk out was interesting too, people yelling how Ed was a douche, he should stick to music and just play rock n roll, people paid for music not politics...others defended him.  It was a really decisive moment for the band and the country.

This 2003 tour was definitely crazy; the most upset I ever was at a pearl jam show was at Hershey not at Uniondale.  Ed said some pretty fucked up shit that night.

okay. Now you have to explain. What did he say that night?

Hershey rant

https://youtu.be/bLHTfKueFL4

Wow, never heard that before.
Kinda of surprises me that he would make fun of a girl for her chest size. I know he was calling her out for flashing which I guess he didn't appreciate, but seemed like a little too far to call her out like that. Especially for that this band stands for.

Wonder what Stone said to Matt.

"Nobody here gets out alive"?

mcgruff10

HughFreakingDillon said:

rgambs said:

Damn people, get out and DO something!

everyone! sit on a message board and yell at people to get outside! 

Classic hugh lol

mcgruff10

dankind said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

mcgruff10 said:

dankind said:

KC138045 said:

rgambs said:

dankind said:

When I hear the U-S-A! chant, blind patriotism doesn't come to mind at all; this does:

https://youtu.be/qSkc6c35A4Q

And that was one of the happiest days of my young life.

One of the happiest days of your life was spent watching other people engage in meaningless pursuits?
That makes me sad.

This was hardly a mealiness pursuit considering the political climate between the USA and Soviet Union at the time and the 1980 summer Olympic boycott.

My young life was mostly being abused and moved around from project to trailer park to ramshackle shack, so yeah, this was pretty freaking amazing.

Come to think of it. Most of my happiest days have been watching other people engage in "meaningless pursuits": the Rangers winning the cup in 1994, the Red Sox winning the World Series in 2004, Pearl Jam finally playing Fenway Park in 2016. When I accomplish something "meaningful" with mine, that usually involves work. I'd rather watch other people's "meaningless pursuits" than have to do anything myself.

My favorite thing to do is sleep. Second to that, it's investing my time and money in other people's "meaningless pursuits" (i.e., listening to music, watching movies, reading books, going to museums, attending baseball and hockey games, seeing shows, etc.). 

The 94 Stanley cup is probably my favorite sports memory of all time. 

Oh God. The '94 Stanley Cup is definitely one of the most memorable moments of my life, that's for sure, but not my favorite! Tear gas and pepper spray fucking hurt. Almost as much as seeing how disgusting and mindless people can be. And more than seeing your team lose like that. So fucking close man. Fuck.

Ha ha!  Bure gets stopped by richter!!!!!  Such a great moment in my life.  It really was a fantastic series. 

And before that series. 

Matteau!! Matteau!! Matteau!!

The guarantee!

Come the fuck on.

The best!

Just awesome. Can't believe it s been 24 years!!

OnWis97

dankind said:

KC138045 said:

rgambs said:

dankind said:

When I hear the U-S-A! chant, blind patriotism doesn't come to mind at all; this does:

https://youtu.be/qSkc6c35A4Q

And that was one of the happiest days of my young life.

One of the happiest days of your life was spent watching other people engage in meaningless pursuits?
That makes me sad.

This was hardly a mealiness pursuit considering the political climate between the USA and Soviet Union at the time and the 1980 summer Olympic boycott.

My young life was mostly being abused and moved around from project to trailer park to ramshackle shack, so yeah, this was pretty freaking amazing.

Come to think of it. Most of my happiest days have been watching other people engage in "meaningless pursuits": the Rangers winning the cup in 1994, the Red Sox winning the World Series in 2004, Pearl Jam finally playing Fenway Park in 2016. When I accomplish something "meaningful" with mine, that usually involves work. I'd rather watch other people's "meaningless pursuits" than have to do anything myself.

My favorite thing to do is sleep. Second to that, it's investing my time and money in other people's "meaningless pursuits" (i.e., listening to music, watching movies, reading books, going to museums, attending baseball and hockey games, seeing shows, etc.). 

How DARE you call that a meaningless pursuit?

A lot of my favorite moments are "meaningless."  My wife and I still talk about when Chris Cornell came on stage at PJ20.  My freshman year at Wisconsin, the Badgers went to their first Rose Bowl in 30 years.  That was an incredible night where everyone was having a blast.  The Twins 1987 and 1991 titles were the highlights of 7th and 11th grade for me.  Could I have lived had those moments never happened?  Of course.  But life is not about the necessities. 

Regarding that miracle on ice clip (which, sadly, I am just a bit to young to recall), I happen to think "USA" chants are more reminiscent of WWE crowds.  It's your right to feel that way, to dislike Bu$hleaguer, to like Bush, etc. but I think there was a fundamental lack of understanding, frankly, about what is American by many (how many? I don't know).  It was, for a brief period of time, not OK to criticize the president or the Country.  It's not about what Pearl Jam, or their detractors, felt, but about the idea that those who did not like Bush "hated America."  Bush's detractors were often accused of hating America, and that's where the lack of understanding of patriotism comes into play.

mace1229

I really had no idea so many have such a negative vibe on the "U-S-A" chant. I don;t go to political rallies or things like that, so my experience has always been when something positive happens, never to shut someone down. And, orobably equally as often, just being silly and sarcastic just to be funny. Like winning the lowest division adult softball league, while having a few beers during the game, chanting USA when you win the last game of the season. Thats what I associate that chant with, not Bush's speech, or trying to shut others down. Mostly cheering for your olympic team, cheering during an air show, or trying to dare your drunk friend to do something stupid.

PJ_Soul

mcgruff10 said:

dankind said:

mcgruff10 said:

PJ_Soul said:

mcgruff10 said:

dankind said:

KC138045 said:

rgambs said:

dankind said:

When I hear the U-S-A! chant, blind patriotism doesn't come to mind at all; this does:

https://youtu.be/qSkc6c35A4Q

And that was one of the happiest days of my young life.

One of the happiest days of your life was spent watching other people engage in meaningless pursuits?
That makes me sad.

This was hardly a mealiness pursuit considering the political climate between the USA and Soviet Union at the time and the 1980 summer Olympic boycott.

My young life was mostly being abused and moved around from project to trailer park to ramshackle shack, so yeah, this was pretty freaking amazing.

Come to think of it. Most of my happiest days have been watching other people engage in "meaningless pursuits": the Rangers winning the cup in 1994, the Red Sox winning the World Series in 2004, Pearl Jam finally playing Fenway Park in 2016. When I accomplish something "meaningful" with mine, that usually involves work. I'd rather watch other people's "meaningless pursuits" than have to do anything myself.

My favorite thing to do is sleep. Second to that, it's investing my time and money in other people's "meaningless pursuits" (i.e., listening to music, watching movies, reading books, going to museums, attending baseball and hockey games, seeing shows, etc.). 

The 94 Stanley cup is probably my favorite sports memory of all time. 

Oh God. The '94 Stanley Cup is definitely one of the most memorable moments of my life, that's for sure, but not my favorite! Tear gas and pepper spray fucking hurt. Almost as much as seeing how disgusting and mindless people can be. And more than seeing your team lose like that. So fucking close man. Fuck.

Ha ha!  Bure gets stopped by richter!!!!!  Such a great moment in my life.  It really was a fantastic series. 

And before that series. 

Matteau!! Matteau!! Matteau!!

The guarantee!

Come the fuck on.

The best!

Just awesome. Can't believe it s been 24 years!!