Am I overreacting by being upset at this Seinfeld joke?

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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    edited December 2017
    dankind said:
    northerndragon said:
    Well said Who P and thank you for being able to read what was written by the OP and register their true intentions.
    The UG hive mind that keeps bubbling to the surface around here is what keeps me away much of the time. People are allowed to have different view points, without having to be hammered repeatedly until they agree or go away just it will stop. 
    Very poor form on a few around here.
    It's an open forum. Unfortunately, reading comprehension isn't everyone's strong suit.

    Having said that, more than a few folks did specifically answer the OP's questions -- basically, yes, there are more distasteful jokes, so do yourself a favor and stop watching -- in the beginning of this thread.

    But apparently, true to his form of asking for advice and then not taking it, he kept watching anyway until there was another joke to offend him that he could bring up here to get even more attention, which he then took as ridicule -- and maybe one or two comments were of that nature but certainly not a whole hive.

    You're not despised, @Thoughts_Arrive . If you were, people wouldn't keep trying to help you. You're just annoying at times. So am I. So is everyone who has posted in this thread. Some especially so. But we're all in this thing together. We all have to live with ourselves and each other if we so choose. If we can change the traits about us that lead to continued conflict without losing too much of ourselves along the way, then that's part of the journey. If we can't, then tolerance is also part of the journey. 
    Wrong there. I have not  watched an episode since the suicide episode. The dingo scene I saw in an earlier episode. And I am not seeking attention.
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  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,379
    I just....I'm so....I can't even!
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    edited December 2017
    I'm surprised you weren't turned off by this episode from the previous season. It's in the same ballpark. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=300Q0_B1uYc
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  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    dankind said:
    northerndragon said:
    Well said Who P and thank you for being able to read what was written by the OP and register their true intentions.
    The UG hive mind that keeps bubbling to the surface around here is what keeps me away much of the time. People are allowed to have different view points, without having to be hammered repeatedly until they agree or go away just it will stop. 
    Very poor form on a few around here.
    It's an open forum. Unfortunately, reading comprehension isn't everyone's strong suit.

    Having said that, more than a few folks did specifically answer the OP's questions -- basically, yes, there are more distasteful jokes, so do yourself a favor and stop watching -- in the beginning of this thread.

    But apparently, true to his form of asking for advice and then not taking it, he kept watching anyway until there was another joke to offend him that he could bring up here to get even more attention, which he then took as ridicule -- and maybe one or two comments were of that nature but certainly not a whole hive.

    You're not despised, @Thoughts_Arrive . If you were, people wouldn't keep trying to help you. You're just annoying at times. So am I. So is everyone who has posted in this thread. Some especially so. But we're all in this thing together. We all have to live with ourselves and each other if we so choose. If we can change the traits about us that lead to continued conflict without losing too much of ourselves along the way, then that's part of the journey. If we can't, then tolerance is also part of the journey. 
    I saw that people answered his question and suggested he might not want to watch the rest of the series.  But there was snarky criticism too, mainly "you have no sense of humor or taste" and that's what bothered me.  It may have all been in fun but some people take teasing better than others.  I just didn't like seeing people going at him for having a different sense of humor.

    I do agree that most of us tend to be better off if we don't take everything too seriously.  I try to laugh at nearly everything, especially myself.
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,894
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    I'm surprised you weren't turned off by this episode from the previous season. It's in the same ballpark. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=300Q0_B1uYc

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  • ehbacon
    ehbacon Posts: 1,972
    edited December 2017
    I like a lot of dark/offensive humor. The problem with this is that it was both dark and offensive, but it wasn't a good joke. It wasn't redeemable in any way. There are a lot of jokes about suicide that are funny, and I'm a person who's been very personally affected by it. This joke just wasn't funny, so it left a pretty bad taste in my mouth. 

    Most common way to do a joke as dark as this is shock factor. My favorite example of this is the famous Jimmy Carr joke: "If only Africa had more mosquito nets... then every year we could save millions of mosquitoes from dying needlessly of aids." That's a funny joke not because aids is a laughing matter, but because it has a good combination of being cleverly shocking and offensive. The Seinfeld joke was not clever at all, leaving it just as being offensive.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,030
    ehbacon said:
    I like a lot of dark/offensive humor. The problem with this is that it was both dark and offensive, but it wasn't a good joke. It wasn't redeemable in any way. There are a lot of jokes about suicide that are funny, and I'm a person who's been very personally affected by it. This joke just wasn't funny, so it left a pretty bad taste in my mouth. 

    Most common way to do a joke as dark as this is shock factor. My favorite example of this is the famous Jimmy Carr joke: "If only Africa had more mosquito nets... then every year we could save millions of mosquitoes from dying needlessly of aids." That's a funny joke not because aids is a laughing matter, but because it has a good combination of being cleverly shocking and offensive. The Seinfeld joke was not clever at all, leaving it just as being offensive.
    I very much agree with this. The joke was not in the least bit funny.
  • Annafalk
    Annafalk Sweden Posts: 4,004
    edited December 2017
    I’m feeling a little unsure about how I feel about this actually.
    Seinfeld can pick up something comical in this tragic situation, I guess that’s actually a good thing. It can be very relieving to joke about even the darkest of things, everyone knows it’s just a joke. No one needs to take it personally.

    The way a person reacts to a joke can be very different and the reaction can’t be wrong.
    One react as one react.

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  • RogueStoner
    RogueStoner Sunny AZ Posts: 1,716
    Society is getting waaaay too sensitive and pc. I appreciate the intent...to treat people with respect and equality, no matter their differences. But in reality, all that's being taught is to not say certain words. The actual problem is rarely addressed. What's the difference between saying "the r word" and saying the actual word? They both have the same meaning. If we had true equality and respect for each other, we'd be able to use whatever words we want. 
    I, too, have a twisted sense of humor, which I feel is even more scrutinized because I'm a female. Maybe having felt censored myself is why I think comedy should have no boundaries...as long as it isn't outright hateful (which isn't funny anyways). It helps if the comic has the right audience. But if someone tells a joke about certain taboo topics, it better be damn funny. And Seinfeld's stand-up just isn't imo. But the show itself I find hilarious. 

  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    RogueStoner said:
    Society is getting waaaay too sensitive and pc. I appreciate the intent...to treat people with respect and equality, no matter their differences. But in reality, all that's being taught is to not say certain words. The actual problem is rarely addressed. What's the difference between saying "the r word" and saying the actual word? They both have the same meaning. If we had true equality and respect for each other, we'd be able to use whatever words we want. 
    I, too, have a twisted sense of humor, which I feel is even more scrutinized because I'm a female. Maybe having felt censored myself is why I think comedy should have no boundaries...as long as it isn't outright hateful (which isn't funny anyways). It helps if the comic has the right audience. But if someone tells a joke about certain taboo topics, it better be damn funny. And Seinfeld's stand-up just isn't imo. But the show itself I find hilarious. 

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,664
    RogueStoner said:
    Society is getting waaaay too sensitive and pc. I appreciate the intent...to treat people with respect and equality, no matter their differences. But in reality, all that's being taught is to not say certain words. The actual problem is rarely addressed. What's the difference between saying "the r word" and saying the actual word? They both have the same meaning. If we had true equality and respect for each other, we'd be able to use whatever words we want. 
    I, too, have a twisted sense of humor, which I feel is even more scrutinized because I'm a female. Maybe having felt censored myself is why I think comedy should have no boundaries...as long as it isn't outright hateful (which isn't funny anyways). It helps if the comic has the right audience. But if someone tells a joke about certain taboo topics, it better be damn funny. And Seinfeld's stand-up just isn't imo. But the show itself I find hilarious. 

    The "r word"? 
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,917
    Riot act?


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  • ehbacon
    ehbacon Posts: 1,972
    dankind said:
    RogueStoner said:
    Society is getting waaaay too sensitive and pc. I appreciate the intent...to treat people with respect and equality, no matter their differences. But in reality, all that's being taught is to not say certain words. The actual problem is rarely addressed. What's the difference between saying "the r word" and saying the actual word? They both have the same meaning. If we had true equality and respect for each other, we'd be able to use whatever words we want. 
    I, too, have a twisted sense of humor, which I feel is even more scrutinized because I'm a female. Maybe having felt censored myself is why I think comedy should have no boundaries...as long as it isn't outright hateful (which isn't funny anyways). It helps if the comic has the right audience. But if someone tells a joke about certain taboo topics, it better be damn funny. And Seinfeld's stand-up just isn't imo. But the show itself I find hilarious. 

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  • Who Princess
    Who Princess out here in the fields Posts: 7,305
    RogueStoner said:
    Society is getting waaaay too sensitive and pc. I appreciate the intent...to treat people with respect and equality, no matter their differences. But in reality, all that's being taught is to not say certain words. The actual problem is rarely addressed. What's the difference between saying "the r word" and saying the actual word? They both have the same meaning. If we had true equality and respect for each other, we'd be able to use whatever words we want. 
    I, too, have a twisted sense of humor, which I feel is even more scrutinized because I'm a female. Maybe having felt censored myself is why I think comedy should have no boundaries...as long as it isn't outright hateful (which isn't funny anyways). It helps if the comic has the right audience. But if someone tells a joke about certain taboo topics, it better be damn funny. And Seinfeld's stand-up just isn't imo. But the show itself I find hilarious.
    Again, I've been hearing for years about how we're all too sensitive and PC and you have to be so careful about what you say but I tend to think that what changes have happened have been for the better.  I know you're saying that the only boundary should be hate, but then you'll have someone argue that they weren't being hateful.  I'm not interested in going back to jokes about the stupidity of various nationalities or ethnic groups, the weakness/frivolity of women, the stereotyping of gays or whatever group someone enjoys picking on at the moment.  I think of a boss I used to have who'd say incredibly unkind things to people and when their feelings were hurt, he was all "I was just joking!  You're so sensitive!"  He knew exactly what he was doing.  He had a knack for choosing the staff who were most vulnerable.  It's a power trip.  "I look good because you're so ridiculous."
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  • SmallestOceans
    SmallestOceans Posts: 13,542
    edited December 2017
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