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  • Halifax2TheMax
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  • CM189191
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    This Al Franken story is getting a little weird.

    Attacking the accuser/victim isn't right, so I won't mention that she's a tRump supporter and frequent Hannity guest. 

    That aside, Roger Stone and InfoWars appeared to know about the story before it hit.  

    Metadata for the photo indicates it was taken during the day, not at night while she was sleeping. 

    There is speculation the image was photoshopped.  Specifically, it was altered on the night Franken got elected.  

    The photographer says the photo was staged.  She was playing dead and Al Franken was pretending to revive her with paddles.

    ...something here stinks....
  • JimmyV
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    CM189191 said:
    This Al Franken story is getting a little weird.

    Attacking the accuser/victim isn't right, so I won't mention that she's a tRump supporter and frequent Hannity guest. 

    That aside, Roger Stone and InfoWars appeared to know about the story before it hit.  

    Metadata for the photo indicates it was taken during the day, not at night while she was sleeping. 

    There is speculation the image was photoshopped.  Specifically, it was altered on the night Franken got elected.  

    The photographer says the photo was staged.  She was playing dead and Al Franken was pretending to revive her with paddles.

    ...something here stinks....
    Is there a reputable link to this info? Because it reads like the liberal equivalent of a Breitbart conspiracy theory.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Are there any conservative feminists? With an opposing view to the below?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/posteverything/wp/2017/11/17/im-a-feminist-i-study-rape-culture-and-i-dont-want-al-franken-to-resign/?undefined=&utm_term=.a87264d57612&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1


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  • JimmyV
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    edited November 2017
    This isn't going to be taken the way she thought it was going to be taken.



    Yep, that is quite a big distinction. One that reflects poorly on the President of the United States.
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  • CM189191
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    JimmyV said:
    CM189191 said:
    This Al Franken story is getting a little weird.

    Attacking the accuser/victim isn't right, so I won't mention that she's a tRump supporter and frequent Hannity guest. 

    That aside, Roger Stone and InfoWars appeared to know about the story before it hit.  

    Metadata for the photo indicates it was taken during the day, not at night while she was sleeping. 

    There is speculation the image was photoshopped.  Specifically, it was altered on the night Franken got elected.  

    The photographer says the photo was staged.  She was playing dead and Al Franken was pretending to revive her with paddles.

    ...something here stinks....
    Is there a reputable link to this info? Because it reads like the liberal equivalent of a Breitbart conspiracy theory.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/roger-stone-appears-to-have-known-about-al-franken-allegations-hours-before-they-went-public/




  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Halifax2TheMax said:
     309kunsung said:
    Go Beavers said:
    unsung said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    JimmyV said:
    unsung said:
    How long before they come out against creepy joe biden too?

    Or creepy Rand Paul?
    Hmmmmm, I wonder what might make your neighbor blind side tackle you? I wonder what it could be, particularly if your attorney claims it wasn’t a yard dispute and neither side is talking. Hush, I'd like to buy a clue.
    Considering his neighbor is a mentally unstable democrat it isn't a surprise.

    Now back to Al Franken, all of you were screaming for Trump to not get elected due to locker rooom talk, this guy actually did something.  Are you going to demand his resignation or are all of you just full of shit?
    trump’s wasn’t locker room talk, unless you’ve been hanging out in a locker room full of sex offenders. 
    I don't claim to be an expert on this subject like all of you, I don't have the experience defending people like Bill Clinton for years.
    Where’s Randy Paul’s comments on Roy Moore? Maybe he’s got some skeletons in his closet. Or is it ghosts?
    You all tried that a few years ago, aqua budda remember?
  • unsung
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    elvistheking44 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    PJ_Soul said:
    elvistheking44 said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    elvistheking44 said:
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    unsung said:
    Go Beavers said:
    unsung said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    JimmyV said:
    unsung said:
    How long before they come out against creepy joe biden too?

    Or creepy Rand Paul?
    Hmmmmm, I wonder what might make your neighbor blind side tackle you? I wonder what it could be, particularly if your attorney claims it wasn’t a yard dispute and neither side is talking. Hush, I'd like to buy a clue.
    Considering his neighbor is a mentally unstable democrat it isn't a surprise.

    Now back to Al Franken, all of you were screaming for Trump to not get elected due to locker rooom talk, this guy actually did something.  Are you going to demand his resignation or are all of you just full of shit?
    trump’s wasn’t locker room talk, unless you’ve been hanging out in a locker room full of sex offenders. 
    I don't claim to be an expert on this subject like all of you, I don't have the experience defending people like Bill Clinton for years.
    Was Clinton a sex offender? Or unfaithful?

    Theres a huge difference in my mind (not condoning adultery)?

    He was accused 15 times I believe.
    I didn't know this. I only knew of the high profile incident.
    Not saying trump is not garbage for his talk, just saying I believe Clinton had 15 accusers over the years.
    Are you sure you're not thinking about Trump? Because Trump has had 16 accusers (including 2 who were 13 years old at the time of the assault, as well as his ex-wife). As far as I've ever read, Clinton has had 4 accusers.
    I’m seeing one rape accusation and three sexual assault accusations. No tape of him admitting to it. 

    Good thing it’s ONLY 1 rape accusation and 3 assaults.  No admittance on that, but there is a tape out there of him lying in the Oval Office about sexual relations with that woman.  
    It depends on what your definition of "is" is.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,131
    unsung said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
     309kunsung said:
    Go Beavers said:
    unsung said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    JimmyV said:
    unsung said:
    How long before they come out against creepy joe biden too?

    Or creepy Rand Paul?
    Hmmmmm, I wonder what might make your neighbor blind side tackle you? I wonder what it could be, particularly if your attorney claims it wasn’t a yard dispute and neither side is talking. Hush, I'd like to buy a clue.
    Considering his neighbor is a mentally unstable democrat it isn't a surprise.

    Now back to Al Franken, all of you were screaming for Trump to not get elected due to locker rooom talk, this guy actually did something.  Are you going to demand his resignation or are all of you just full of shit?
    trump’s wasn’t locker room talk, unless you’ve been hanging out in a locker room full of sex offenders. 
    I don't claim to be an expert on this subject like all of you, I don't have the experience defending people like Bill Clinton for years.
    Where’s Randy Paul’s comments on Roy Moore? Maybe he’s got some skeletons in his closet. Or is it ghosts?
    You all tried that a few years ago, aqua budda remember?
    A lot can change in a few years. Tempted by the Devil hisself, for example. Still haven't seen Randy Paul comment on Roy Moore's transgressions. Why not? Silence is endorsement.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,613
    CM189191 said:
    JimmyV said:
    CM189191 said:
    This Al Franken story is getting a little weird.

    Attacking the accuser/victim isn't right, so I won't mention that she's a tRump supporter and frequent Hannity guest. 

    That aside, Roger Stone and InfoWars appeared to know about the story before it hit.  

    Metadata for the photo indicates it was taken during the day, not at night while she was sleeping. 

    There is speculation the image was photoshopped.  Specifically, it was altered on the night Franken got elected.  

    The photographer says the photo was staged.  She was playing dead and Al Franken was pretending to revive her with paddles.

    ...something here stinks....
    Is there a reputable link to this info? Because it reads like the liberal equivalent of a Breitbart conspiracy theory.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/roger-stone-appears-to-have-known-about-al-franken-allegations-hours-before-they-went-public/




    He isn't reviving her in that photo. If the photo was edited why did Franken himself apologize and say he shouldn't have done it?
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  • JimmyV
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    Alabama's Republican Governor says she will vote for Roy Moore because keeping the Democrats out of power is more important than anything this (alleged) disgusting pedophile may have done.

    Look for the entire GOP Establishment to get on board that train between now and election day. This is the exact cycle we saw following the Access Hollywood tape.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,910
    Hmm. Well I don't want to dismiss that claim outright. I want to know about this photographer. If that woman is a Trump supporter, it is possible that she's full of shit. I'm not saying she is or isn't. Just saying that we shouldn't be any more quick to dismiss first person denials of the claims than we are to dismiss the original accusation.... So now what? lol
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  • stuckinline
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    JimmyV said:
    Alabama's Republican Governor says she will vote for Roy Moore because keeping the Democrats out of power is more important than anything this (alleged) disgusting pedophile may have done.

    Look for the entire GOP Establishment to get on board that train between now and election day. This is the exact cycle we saw following the Access Hollywood tape.
    Well, that is totally f***ed up, but unfortunately many voters feel the same way.

  • tbergs
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    If the Franken assault isn't all true as originally told, then it would make sense for him to do exactly as he has done until he can disprove her story. I'm not buying in to conspiracy theories, but I think we've seen how the outright denials have played out. I doubt he remembered every detail which is why he added that tidbit into his statement. Whatever, we'll see if this is another Hannity style spin or if there's truth to it.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • josevolution
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    JimmyV said:
    Alabama's Republican Governor says she will vote for Roy Moore because keeping the Democrats out of power is more important than anything this (alleged) disgusting pedophile may have done.

    Look for the entire GOP Establishment to get on board that train between now and election day. This is the exact cycle we saw following the Access Hollywood tape.
    Yep the GOP will stand behind Racists , sexual predators , Russian operatives helping get the idiot we now have as president this doesn't surprize me one bit ...
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,613
    tbergs said:
    If the Franken assault isn't all true as originally told, then it would make sense for him to do exactly as he has done until he can disprove her story. I'm not buying in to conspiracy theories, but I think we've seen how the outright denials have played out. I doubt he remembered every detail which is why he added that tidbit into his statement. Whatever, we'll see if this is another Hannity style spin or if there's truth to it.
    He said he didn't remember the rehearsal where she claims he tried to kiss her the same way. He apologized for the picture and admitted he shouldn't have done it.


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    JimmyV said:
    Alabama's Republican Governor says she will vote for Roy Moore because keeping the Democrats out of power is more important than anything this (alleged) disgusting pedophile may have done.

    Look for the entire GOP Establishment to get on board that train between now and election day. This is the exact cycle we saw following the Access Hollywood tape.
    Party of deplorables. I guess Hillary was correct?
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    JimmyV said:
    tbergs said:
    If the Franken assault isn't all true as originally told, then it would make sense for him to do exactly as he has done until he can disprove her story. I'm not buying in to conspiracy theories, but I think we've seen how the outright denials have played out. I doubt he remembered every detail which is why he added that tidbit into his statement. Whatever, we'll see if this is another Hannity style spin or if there's truth to it.
    He said he didn't remember the rehearsal where she claims he tried to kiss her the same way. He apologized for the picture and admitted he shouldn't have done it.


    Oh, ok. I didn't go back and read the statement.

    Anyway, Snopes has proven the photographer quote is false. Allegations stand confirmed. No silver lining here people. Franken is still a creep
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,910
    JimmyV said:
    tbergs said:
    If the Franken assault isn't all true as originally told, then it would make sense for him to do exactly as he has done until he can disprove her story. I'm not buying in to conspiracy theories, but I think we've seen how the outright denials have played out. I doubt he remembered every detail which is why he added that tidbit into his statement. Whatever, we'll see if this is another Hannity style spin or if there's truth to it.
    He said he didn't remember the rehearsal where she claims he tried to kiss her the same way. He apologized for the picture and admitted he shouldn't have done it.


    Okay, but is he apologizing because he actually assaulted her? Or just because joking around about honking a passed out woman's breasts is inappropriate behaviour, but not assault or harassment? I don't know. Again, I want to hear more from this photographer who is denying the accusation. He says he was there. What would be his motive to not tell the truth in his account of what happened? Are they buddies? I have no clue.
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    PJ_Soul said:
    I don't get these gay Christian homophobic family value warriors at all. I mean, I find it hard to grasp how dense some people can be when it comes to their perspectives and how they apply those perspectives to themselves and other people and the world. Is this some kind of mental disability? Mental illness? Or just pure, disgusting, self-righteous stupidity? I do grasp the role that religion plays here, but not so much the individual capacity to be so fucking hypocritical about what they are taught vs what they feel and do. It is probably one of the most vexing things about humanity for me. It disturbs me a lot that there seem to be so many of these types in politics. I mean really, if elected officials are this stupid and heinous... bah. It makes me feel rather hopeless.
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