Off the deep end... (U.S. pulls out of Paris Agreement)
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Dang!
...and it continues through next week!
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6th Great Mass Exctinction in full swing... we are the planets first super predator... swallowing up everything in our path... laying waste to the environment and animal kingdom... extraction... exploitation...
The aristocrat choir sings, "what's the ruckus"?0 -
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Yep. Pearl Jam, Self Titled, side one, track two. We're doing it.my2hands said:6th Great Mass Exctinction in full swing... we are the planets first super predator... swallowing up everything in our path... laying waste to the environment and animal kingdom... extraction... exploitation...
The aristocrat choir sings, "what's the ruckus"?
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Talk about hot:
https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/20/15837804/phoenix-extreme-heat-american-airlines-flight-cancel-scienceIt’s so hot in Phoenix, planes are physically unable to fly
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Hi-ho the dairio the US stands alone. How pathetic. Syria has joined leaving the US dragging bottom.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/07/politics/syria-paris-climate-agreement/index.html
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tbergs said:Hi-ho the dairio the US stands alone. How pathetic. Syria has joined leaving the US dragging bottom.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/07/politics/syria-paris-climate-agreement/index.html
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that just confirms to trump and his supporters that they are indeed #1 and the smartest of the bunch.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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What fools we look like to the rest of the world.
The greatest nation on earth? Greatest at what? Major embarrassment?
No, more like major shame.
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
You know what I find to be shameful and embarrassed of? Of those that continue to post about this "hollow" agreement without having read it. If you truly cared about the environment and actually read the agreement, I would guess you are more likely to be outraged about its worthlessness not having value to the paper it was drawn on. Please be honest with yourself, read the agreement and tell me what good it does?brianlux said:What fools we look like to the rest of the world.
The greatest nation on earth? Greatest at what? Major embarrassment?
No, more like major shame.
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This reminds me of the fact that the TPP more and more seems to be regarded by the players specifically as a way to exclude the US going forward. Not because they wanted to, but because Trump is leaving them no choice. The rest of the world is realizing that it could be in their long term collective best interests to leave the US in the dust. I don't get the impression that Trump understands that the world is willing to do this, nor what that could mean to America's future. It could end up being seen in future history books as the most identifiable signal of the true beginning of America's decline. The Paris Agreement withdrawal I think is acting as yet another signal to the TPP members that they need to move on without the US. Long term economic goals of other nations and investors will often no longer include America as a major player. It's a huge turning point IMO..... I guess it remains to be seen if this damage Trump is causing can be reversed once (if) sanity is returned to the nation.
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No need to be shameful of me, JC. I know what it says, I know it falls WAY short of what we need and I know why I am ashamed that we are the only nation that has not signed it.JC29856 said:
You know what I find to be shameful and embarrassed of? Of those that continue to post about this "hollow" agreement without having read it. If you truly cared about the environment and actually read the agreement, I would guess you are more likely to be outraged about its worthlessness not having value to the paper it was drawn on. Please be honest with yourself, read the agreement and tell me what good it does?brianlux said:What fools we look like to the rest of the world.
The greatest nation on earth? Greatest at what? Major embarrassment?
No, more like major shame.
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Greece, Rome, Great Britain, US.PJ_Soul said:This reminds me of the fact that the TPP more and more seems to be regarded by the players specifically as a way to exclude the US going forward. Not because they wanted to, but because Trump is leaving them no choice. The rest of the world is realizing that it could be in their long term collective best interests to leave the US in the dust. I don't get the impression that Trump understands that the world is willing to do this, nor what that could mean to America's future. It could end up being seen in future history books as the most identifiable signal of the true beginning of America's decline. The Paris Agreement withdrawal I think is acting as yet another signal to the TPP members that they need to move on without the US. Long term economic goals of other nations and investors will often no longer include America as a major player. It's a huge turning point IMO..... I guess it remains to be seen if this damage Trump is causing can be reversed once (if) sanity is returned to the nation.
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Syria agrees to sign on to the agreement leaving orange bafoon & America as the only country not in it heck he's not even on the guest list for the next summit...jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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I trust that you read the non-sense but I'll bet that most of those that post about the topic havent bothered. What Im saying is that the fervor over exiting the agreement is disproportionate to any actual good it can possibly do.brianlux said:
No need to be shameful of me, JC. I know what it says, I know it falls WAY short of what we need and I know why I am ashamed that we are the only nation that has not signed it.JC29856 said:
You know what I find to be shameful and embarrassed of? Of those that continue to post about this "hollow" agreement without having read it. If you truly cared about the environment and actually read the agreement, I would guess you are more likely to be outraged about its worthlessness not having value to the paper it was drawn on. Please be honest with yourself, read the agreement and tell me what good it does?brianlux said:What fools we look like to the rest of the world.
The greatest nation on earth? Greatest at what? Major embarrassment?
No, more like major shame.
Correct me where Im wrong with regard to the agreement, I'll sum it up for those that didnt read it.
It is a non-binding, non-enforceable (wink and nod) agreement that relied on the "polluters" (every nation!) to set their own rules, set their own benchmarks, set their own time frames to abide by their own rules, and then to "police" themselves throughout the process and report the progress back to the Conference of Parties, in order to achieve these:(a)Holding the increase in the global average temperature to well below 2 °C above pre-industrial levels and to pursue efforts to limit the temperature increase to 1.5 °C above pre-industrial levels, recognizing that this would significantly reduce the risks and impacts of climate change;(b)Increasing the ability to adapt to the adverse impacts of climate change and foster climate resilience and low greenhouse gas emissions development, in a manner that does not threaten food production;(c)Making finance flows consistent with a pathway towards low greenhouse gas emissions and climate resilient development.
http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/2015/cop21/eng/l09r01.pdf
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ya gotta start somewhere. you think exiting is no big deal? especially one of the biggest polluters on the globe? getting everyone to the table is the first stage of progress. but trump left the table entirely. because he believes coal is the future. SMFHJC29856 said:
I trust that you read the non-sense but I'll bet that most of those that post about the topic havent bothered. What Im saying is that the fervor over exiting the agreement is disproportionate to any actual good it can possibly do.brianlux said:
No need to be shameful of me, JC. I know what it says, I know it falls WAY short of what we need and I know why I am ashamed that we are the only nation that has not signed it.JC29856 said:
You know what I find to be shameful and embarrassed of? Of those that continue to post about this "hollow" agreement without having read it. If you truly cared about the environment and actually read the agreement, I would guess you are more likely to be outraged about its worthlessness not having value to the paper it was drawn on. Please be honest with yourself, read the agreement and tell me what good it does?brianlux said:What fools we look like to the rest of the world.
The greatest nation on earth? Greatest at what? Major embarrassment?
No, more like major shame.
Correct me where Im wrong with regard to the agreement, I'll sum it up for those that didnt read it.
It is a non-binding, non-enforceable (wink and nod) agreement that relied on the "polluters" (every nation!) to set their own rules, set their own benchmarks, set their own time frames to abide by their own rules, and then to "police" themselves throughout the process and report the progress back to the Conference of Parties, in order to achieve these:(a)Holding the increase in the global average temperature to well below 2 °C above pre-industrial levels and to pursue efforts to limit the temperature increase to 1.5 °C above pre-industrial levels, recognizing that this would significantly reduce the risks and impacts of climate change;(b)Increasing the ability to adapt to the adverse impacts of climate change and foster climate resilience and low greenhouse gas emissions development, in a manner that does not threaten food production;(c)Making finance flows consistent with a pathway towards low greenhouse gas emissions and climate resilient development.
http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/2015/cop21/eng/l09r01.pdfBy The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Yes, this is how I see it too. The agreement is a start, not an end-all. It is a way for every country to acknowledge the problem. And it can be strengthened. At this point, doing something is better than doing nothing or, as in the case of the U.S., going in the wrong direction all together.HughFreakingDillon said:
ya gotta start somewhere. you think exiting is no big deal? especially one of the biggest polluters on the globe? getting everyone to the table is the first stage of progress. but trump left the table entirely. because he believes coal is the future. SMFHJC29856 said:
I trust that you read the non-sense but I'll bet that most of those that post about the topic havent bothered. What Im saying is that the fervor over exiting the agreement is disproportionate to any actual good it can possibly do.brianlux said:
No need to be shameful of me, JC. I know what it says, I know it falls WAY short of what we need and I know why I am ashamed that we are the only nation that has not signed it.JC29856 said:
You know what I find to be shameful and embarrassed of? Of those that continue to post about this "hollow" agreement without having read it. If you truly cared about the environment and actually read the agreement, I would guess you are more likely to be outraged about its worthlessness not having value to the paper it was drawn on. Please be honest with yourself, read the agreement and tell me what good it does?brianlux said:What fools we look like to the rest of the world.
The greatest nation on earth? Greatest at what? Major embarrassment?
No, more like major shame.
Correct me where Im wrong with regard to the agreement, I'll sum it up for those that didnt read it.
It is a non-binding, non-enforceable (wink and nod) agreement that relied on the "polluters" (every nation!) to set their own rules, set their own benchmarks, set their own time frames to abide by their own rules, and then to "police" themselves throughout the process and report the progress back to the Conference of Parties, in order to achieve these:(a)Holding the increase in the global average temperature to well below 2 °C above pre-industrial levels and to pursue efforts to limit the temperature increase to 1.5 °C above pre-industrial levels, recognizing that this would significantly reduce the risks and impacts of climate change;(b)Increasing the ability to adapt to the adverse impacts of climate change and foster climate resilience and low greenhouse gas emissions development, in a manner that does not threaten food production;(c)Making finance flows consistent with a pathway towards low greenhouse gas emissions and climate resilient development.
http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/2015/cop21/eng/l09r01.pdf
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It's all or nothing with some.....then they vote for Trump, which is of course worse than nothing, because any environmental progress made in the past 50 years is being reversed by this administration.brianlux said:
Yes, this is how I see it too. The agreement is a start, not an end-all. It is a way for every country to acknowledge the problem. And it can be strengthened. At this point, doing something is better than doing nothing or, as in the case of the U.S., going in the wrong direction all together.HughFreakingDillon said:
ya gotta start somewhere. you think exiting is no big deal? especially one of the biggest polluters on the globe? getting everyone to the table is the first stage of progress. but trump left the table entirely. because he believes coal is the future. SMFHJC29856 said:
I trust that you read the non-sense but I'll bet that most of those that post about the topic havent bothered. What Im saying is that the fervor over exiting the agreement is disproportionate to any actual good it can possibly do.brianlux said:
No need to be shameful of me, JC. I know what it says, I know it falls WAY short of what we need and I know why I am ashamed that we are the only nation that has not signed it.JC29856 said:
You know what I find to be shameful and embarrassed of? Of those that continue to post about this "hollow" agreement without having read it. If you truly cared about the environment and actually read the agreement, I would guess you are more likely to be outraged about its worthlessness not having value to the paper it was drawn on. Please be honest with yourself, read the agreement and tell me what good it does?brianlux said:What fools we look like to the rest of the world.
The greatest nation on earth? Greatest at what? Major embarrassment?
No, more like major shame.
Correct me where Im wrong with regard to the agreement, I'll sum it up for those that didnt read it.
It is a non-binding, non-enforceable (wink and nod) agreement that relied on the "polluters" (every nation!) to set their own rules, set their own benchmarks, set their own time frames to abide by their own rules, and then to "police" themselves throughout the process and report the progress back to the Conference of Parties, in order to achieve these:(a)Holding the increase in the global average temperature to well below 2 °C above pre-industrial levels and to pursue efforts to limit the temperature increase to 1.5 °C above pre-industrial levels, recognizing that this would significantly reduce the risks and impacts of climate change;(b)Increasing the ability to adapt to the adverse impacts of climate change and foster climate resilience and low greenhouse gas emissions development, in a manner that does not threaten food production;(c)Making finance flows consistent with a pathway towards low greenhouse gas emissions and climate resilient development.
http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/2015/cop21/eng/l09r01.pdf
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