Off the deep end... (U.S. pulls out of Paris Agreement)

brianlux

unsung said:

brianlux said:

my2hands said:

Climate change cult = 98% of scientists and pretty much all of planet earth that isn't a far right wing American conservative sucking up fox news propaganda the past 20 years

Exactly, and thanks for pointing this out my2hands! 

Some people actually believe that most of these scientists are purely in it for the money.  Sure, the ones hired by Shell and Exxon are, of course!  But typical scientists have minds that work in ways that are not at all primarily motivated by money.  In fact, most are very much focused on and often even obsessed by the drive to find out how things tick.  So when 98 percent of these people are say, "Hey world, your screwing it up and we can prevent this", we might want to listen!

Like Al Gore?

Al Gore would have made a decent president and I'm glad be brought some attention to global warming and excess CO2 in the atmosphere but when I talk or think or read about climate science and the scientists who study it, the name Al Gore never crosses my mind.  Nor Neil Young.  You do know the difference between a scientist, a politician and a musician, right?

Which reminds me, did I ever tell you about the time a scientist, a politician and a musician walked into a bar...

HesCalledDyer

unsung said:

oftenreading said:

unsung said:

I don't subscribe to the climate change cult.

The climate has changed for the entire existence of the planet.   Are there things we can do to make the world better?  Sure.  But I shouldn't be forced to buy a certain lightbulb when it is scorched earth in China to mine the materials.

Yeah, it's always someone else's problem to fix.

Start caring about the federal reserve and I'll start caring about some supposed climate change.

Why can't you care about both? Also, it's not "supposed," it's actual.

CM189191

unsung said:

I don't subscribe to the climate change cult.

The climate has changed for the entire existence of the planet.   Are there things we can do to make the world better?  Sure.  But I shouldn't be forced to buy a certain lightbulb when it is scorched earth in China to mine the materials.

unsung said:

oftenreading said:

unsung said:

I don't subscribe to the climate change cult.

The climate has changed for the entire existence of the planet.   Are there things we can do to make the world better?  Sure.  But I shouldn't be forced to buy a certain lightbulb when it is scorched earth in China to mine the materials.

Yeah, it's always someone else's problem to fix.

Start caring about the federal reserve and I'll start caring about some supposed climate change.

Climate Change has always existed!
Climate Change doesn't exist!

 doublethink much?

HesCalledDyer

Speaking of climate change, I saw this gem from a Trump propagandist on instagram the other day.  The lady who posted it has (at least claims to have) an M. Ed. degree, yet thinks the fucking seasons are what "climate change is."  She included the commentary that follows the picture as a caption, making claims about corporate kickbacks from green energy - but conveniently has amnesia about corruption in the coal and oil industries.  The last sentence appears at the end of all her posts.  People this fucking stupid actually exist in the world.


This pretty much sums it up. The climate fluctuates based on the seasons. Yes ...pollution can cause water and air quality to become poor but it doesn't change the temperature of the atmosphere or the earth. Climate change is the normal fluctuation and has been going on for hundreds of thousands of years. Sadly, too many sheep believe what these billion dollar solar and green energy companies want us to believe and I refuse to believe a hoax. This is manipulated data given to us by big liberal companies and scientists. The scientists that dared to go against climate change/global warming were blackballed and not included in any of the data. Therefore, the only data the government and the companies wanted you to find out about was the data that supported climate change. Since Obama and other leaders of other big countries were getting money kickbacks from these big companies.... they promoted global warming as fact and tried to scare the public. Do your research read about the hoax that is global warming! ~Shutting down idiots one liberal at a time!!!!!!!~

HesCalledDyer

I'd also like to add that it's June 8 and the heat in my apartment kicked on last night. We had more days in the 80s & 90s this past winter than we've had this spring.  The only major snow we saw happened a week into the spring season and it all melted 2 days later when it was 75 degrees.  It seems every week so far this year we've had fluctuations in temperature of 40-50 degrees and back (as in 35 degrees on Monday, 80 on Thursday, and 40 on Saturday).  This is NOT natural!!

dignin

CM189191 said:

unsung said:

I don't subscribe to the climate change cult.

The climate has changed for the entire existence of the planet.   Are there things we can do to make the world better?  Sure.  But I shouldn't be forced to buy a certain lightbulb when it is scorched earth in China to mine the materials.

unsung said:

oftenreading said:

unsung said:

I don't subscribe to the climate change cult.

The climate has changed for the entire existence of the planet.   Are there things we can do to make the world better?  Sure.  But I shouldn't be forced to buy a certain lightbulb when it is scorched earth in China to mine the materials.

Yeah, it's always someone else's problem to fix.

Start caring about the federal reserve and I'll start caring about some supposed climate change.

Climate Change has always existed!
Climate Change doesn't exist!

 doublethink much?

Haha.

brianlux

HesCalledDyer said:

I'd also like to add that it's June 8 and the heat in my apartment kicked on last night. We had more days in the 80s & 90s this past winter than we've had this spring.  The only major snow we saw happened a week into the spring season and it all melted 2 days later when it was 75 degrees.  It seems every week so far this year we've had fluctuations in temperature of 40-50 degrees and back (as in 35 degrees on Monday, 80 on Thursday, and 40 on Saturday).  This is NOT natural!!

We've also  had unusual weather this year here in the foothills with near record rain yet much less than usual frost, and yet HUGE snow pack higher up in the Sierras, and then a warmer than average May with some days in the 90's and now, June 8th, its currently 55 F and raining.

It's been pointed out numerous times that local weather is not a reflection of global climate so none of our individual stories in-of-themselves is a reflection of climate change but the many stories collectively that I've heard I think are.  Add to that the careful and well documented research on climate and I don't see how anyone can deny global warming unless they are getting paid to do so or are blowing smoke or smoking too much or just being contrary (which is not the same as being skeptical).  

unsung

CM189191 said:

unsung said:

I don't subscribe to the climate change cult.

The climate has changed for the entire existence of the planet.   Are there things we can do to make the world better?  Sure.  But I shouldn't be forced to buy a certain lightbulb when it is scorched earth in China to mine the materials.

unsung said:

oftenreading said:

unsung said:

I don't subscribe to the climate change cult.

The climate has changed for the entire existence of the planet.   Are there things we can do to make the world better?  Sure.  But I shouldn't be forced to buy a certain lightbulb when it is scorched earth in China to mine the materials.

Yeah, it's always someone else's problem to fix.

Start caring about the federal reserve and I'll start caring about some supposed climate change.

Climate Change has always existed!
Climate Change doesn't exist!

 doublethink much?

There is climate change, and there is extremist fanatical "climate change" where a bunch of people get rich on the taxpayer's expense. 

HughFreakingDillon

unsung said:

CM189191 said:

unsung said:

I don't subscribe to the climate change cult.

The climate has changed for the entire existence of the planet.   Are there things we can do to make the world better?  Sure.  But I shouldn't be forced to buy a certain lightbulb when it is scorched earth in China to mine the materials.

unsung said:

oftenreading said:

unsung said:

I don't subscribe to the climate change cult.

The climate has changed for the entire existence of the planet.   Are there things we can do to make the world better?  Sure.  But I shouldn't be forced to buy a certain lightbulb when it is scorched earth in China to mine the materials.

Yeah, it's always someone else's problem to fix.

Start caring about the federal reserve and I'll start caring about some supposed climate change.

Climate Change has always existed!
Climate Change doesn't exist!

 doublethink much?

There is climate change, and there is extremist fanatical "climate change" where a bunch of people get rich on the taxpayer's expense. 

if climate change was about getting rich, wouldn't these green companies be backing all of the Green Parties of the world and pushing them into office to forward their "extremist fanatical" agendas?

by the way, you believe 98% of climate scientists are fanatical extremists?

oftenreading

unsung said:

CM189191 said:

unsung said:

I don't subscribe to the climate change cult.

The climate has changed for the entire existence of the planet.   Are there things we can do to make the world better?  Sure.  But I shouldn't be forced to buy a certain lightbulb when it is scorched earth in China to mine the materials.

unsung said:

oftenreading said:

unsung said:

I don't subscribe to the climate change cult.

The climate has changed for the entire existence of the planet.   Are there things we can do to make the world better?  Sure.  But I shouldn't be forced to buy a certain lightbulb when it is scorched earth in China to mine the materials.

Yeah, it's always someone else's problem to fix.

Start caring about the federal reserve and I'll start caring about some supposed climate change.

Climate Change has always existed!
Climate Change doesn't exist!

 doublethink much?

There is climate change, and there is extremist fanatical "climate change" where a bunch of people get rich on the taxpayer's expense. 

University affiliated scientists  are well known to be living high on the hog, while oil company executives slave away for a pittance. 

rgambs

It's a Chinese hoax, obviously.
Trump said it so it must be true.

brianlux

unsung said:

CM189191 said:

unsung said:

I don't subscribe to the climate change cult.

The climate has changed for the entire existence of the planet.   Are there things we can do to make the world better?  Sure.  But I shouldn't be forced to buy a certain lightbulb when it is scorched earth in China to mine the materials.

unsung said:

oftenreading said:

unsung said:

I don't subscribe to the climate change cult.

The climate has changed for the entire existence of the planet.   Are there things we can do to make the world better?  Sure.  But I shouldn't be forced to buy a certain lightbulb when it is scorched earth in China to mine the materials.

Yeah, it's always someone else's problem to fix.

Start caring about the federal reserve and I'll start caring about some supposed climate change.

Climate Change has always existed!
Climate Change doesn't exist!

 doublethink much?

There is climate change, and there is extremist fanatical "climate change" where a bunch of people get rich on the taxpayer's expense. 

I have absolutely no doubt someone is getting rich off  of propagating the idea of global warming.  Somebody somewhere is getting rich off of anything you can name.  But describing real climate change/ real global warming as "extremest fanatical"?  Now that is extremest and fanatical.

CM189191

brianlux said:

unsung said:

CM189191 said:

unsung said:

I don't subscribe to the climate change cult.

The climate has changed for the entire existence of the planet.   Are there things we can do to make the world better?  Sure.  But I shouldn't be forced to buy a certain lightbulb when it is scorched earth in China to mine the materials.

unsung said:

oftenreading said:

unsung said:

I don't subscribe to the climate change cult.

The climate has changed for the entire existence of the planet.   Are there things we can do to make the world better?  Sure.  But I shouldn't be forced to buy a certain lightbulb when it is scorched earth in China to mine the materials.

Yeah, it's always someone else's problem to fix.

Start caring about the federal reserve and I'll start caring about some supposed climate change.

Climate Change has always existed!
Climate Change doesn't exist!

 doublethink much?

There is climate change, and there is extremist fanatical "climate change" where a bunch of people get rich on the taxpayer's expense. 

I have absolutely no doubt someone is getting rich off  of propagating the idea of global warming.  Somebody somewhere is getting rich off of anything you can name.  But describing real climate change/ real global warming as "extremest fanatical"?  Now that is extremest and fanatical.

Better for people to get rich saving the planet, rather than people getting rich by destroying it. 

brianlux

CM189191 said:

brianlux said:

unsung said:

CM189191 said:

unsung said:

I don't subscribe to the climate change cult.

The climate has changed for the entire existence of the planet.   Are there things we can do to make the world better?  Sure.  But I shouldn't be forced to buy a certain lightbulb when it is scorched earth in China to mine the materials.

unsung said:

oftenreading said:

unsung said:

I don't subscribe to the climate change cult.

The climate has changed for the entire existence of the planet.   Are there things we can do to make the world better?  Sure.  But I shouldn't be forced to buy a certain lightbulb when it is scorched earth in China to mine the materials.

Yeah, it's always someone else's problem to fix.

Start caring about the federal reserve and I'll start caring about some supposed climate change.

Climate Change has always existed!
Climate Change doesn't exist!

 doublethink much?

There is climate change, and there is extremist fanatical "climate change" where a bunch of people get rich on the taxpayer's expense. 

I have absolutely no doubt someone is getting rich off  of propagating the idea of global warming.  Somebody somewhere is getting rich off of anything you can name.  But describing real climate change/ real global warming as "extremest fanatical"?  Now that is extremest and fanatical.

Better for people to get rich saving the planet, rather than people getting rich by destroying it. 

Yes!  Much better option!

dignin

unsung said:

CM189191 said:

unsung said:

I don't subscribe to the climate change cult.

The climate has changed for the entire existence of the planet.   Are there things we can do to make the world better?  Sure.  But I shouldn't be forced to buy a certain lightbulb when it is scorched earth in China to mine the materials.

unsung said:

oftenreading said:

unsung said:

I don't subscribe to the climate change cult.

The climate has changed for the entire existence of the planet.   Are there things we can do to make the world better?  Sure.  But I shouldn't be forced to buy a certain lightbulb when it is scorched earth in China to mine the materials.

Yeah, it's always someone else's problem to fix.

Start caring about the federal reserve and I'll start caring about some supposed climate change.

Climate Change has always existed!
Climate Change doesn't exist!

 doublethink much?

There is climate change, and there is extremist fanatical "climate change" where a bunch of people get rich on the taxpayer's expense. 

Haha. You sure have been drinking the cool-aid. 

brianlux

As much as I know and have said that local weather is not the same as global climate, I can't help but continue to be astounded by the bizarre weather we are having here out west.  As I write this in the middle of the day, 3:00 PM, June 11, 2017, the temperature outside is 49 degrees F (9.44 C) and it is hailing!  In mid-June!  In my almost 21 years here in El Dorado County, I cannot ever remember it raining let alone cold and hailing.  And according to NOAA's seven day forecast,  the high temperature this coming Saturday will be at least 35 degrees F warmer (i.e hot) (NOAA has been very accurate in it's weather forecasts).

HesCalledDyer

Just 5 days ago I posted about how my heat kicked on in the middle of the night. Saturday, 2 days later, I had all the windows in the house open and was sweating profusely all day long.  Last night I caved and put my a/c units in.

brianlux

HesCalledDyer said:

Just 5 days ago I posted about how my heat kicked on in the middle of the night. Saturday, 2 days later, I had all the windows in the house open and was sweating profusely all day long.  Last night I caved and put my a/c units in.

Our extremes are bumping up here as well. Now it appears that by Saturday, our temps will have jumped up 48 degrees F in one week.  Crazy.

HughFreakingDillon

brianlux said:

HesCalledDyer said:

Just 5 days ago I posted about how my heat kicked on in the middle of the night. Saturday, 2 days later, I had all the windows in the house open and was sweating profusely all day long.  Last night I caved and put my a/c units in.

Our extremes are bumping up here as well. Now it appears that by Saturday, our temps will have jumped up 48 degrees F in one week.  Crazy.

that's every week in my neck of the woods. 

brianlux

I might have to try that fry an egg on the sidewalk thing this weekend.  Sacramento is supposed to hit 108!  Shitballs o' fire!