Donald Trump
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I think it's both. People that voted for him thought he must be smart because he's wealthy so he knows business. Bullshit. He just knew how to cut corners and had a nice start up fund.HughFreakingDillon said:
either the Trump admin is really really really fucking stupid, or they truly believe they are untouchable.Bentleyspop said:BUT BUT BUT.....what about the emails?Hundreds of White House emails sent to third Kushner family account.White House officials are reviewing a third email account associated with Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner’s private email domain.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
Absolutely. I swear that if Isis bought their weapons legally here and killed hundreds of Americans with them, even that wouldn't change things. We can't even get individuals on the watch list to not be sold guns. So if that doesn't change and something like Newtown doesn't change things- it's not going to happen.Tiki said:If those kids in CT weren't enough to enact ANY kind of assault weapon restrictions, the people at that show died and were injured for nothing.
R's are complicit.0 -
Why is it impossible to believe if you support gun rights that you wouldn't be saddened by these events? Or as someone else even said if you're republican you wouldn't be saddened?brianlux said:
Pretty much right on. What's really insane is the availability of rapid fire assault weapons like the ones used in Las Vegas.lastexitlondon said:There is a reason this primarily happens in the U.S.
Its a simple reason.
Readily available guns and ammo.
Its time to stop this madness.
It was time long ago.
Watching this huge mass loss of life of free people going to a gig like we all do is truly hard to comprehend for me. But it won't stop on trumps watch.
A friend posted something rather telling (which if is not true I'd like to see it proved wrong) which is that every republican who received money from the NRA tweeted "Thoughts and prayers" to Las Vegas. Right. :rollingeyes:
That's a more ridiculous of a claim than any republican ever said.
Anti-gun stances openly say they want to ban guns, many on here said they want to completely ban them. So anyone who doesn't want guns completely banned often go to the other extreme to resist. End result is no middle ground is met that could have saved 59 lives this weekend. But go ahead, blame republicans and pretend they are happy about this weekend.0 -
The revelations about the Kushner family email domain have drawn parallels to Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton’s use of a private email server for official business during her tenure as secretary of state. Clinton’s emails were a major point of contention during the 2016 election. President Trump criticized Clinton’s email habits and frequently called for Clinton’s arrest on the campaign trail, leading crowds at rallies in chants of “lock her up,” and urged the Justice Department to reopen the investigation into her emails.
Clinton called the private email use by White House staffers the “height of hypocrisy” during an interview last week with SiriusXM
parallels... advisor to the president "The emails — which include nonpublic travel documents, internal schedules and some official White House materials" versus private server used by SoS sending and receiving confidential and classified information. Sounds about the same to me!
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if anyone has called for the complete ban of guns here, I haven't seen it. I have seen, and myself have stated, that in a perfect world, no guns would be ideal. But you can't put that cat back in the bag. It's not realistic, not in the US anyway. So other solutions are needed.mace1229 said:
Why is it impossible to believe if you support gun rights that you wouldn't be saddened by these events? Or as someone else even said if you're republican you wouldn't be saddened?brianlux said:
Pretty much right on. What's really insane is the availability of rapid fire assault weapons like the ones used in Las Vegas.lastexitlondon said:There is a reason this primarily happens in the U.S.
Its a simple reason.
Readily available guns and ammo.
Its time to stop this madness.
It was time long ago.
Watching this huge mass loss of life of free people going to a gig like we all do is truly hard to comprehend for me. But it won't stop on trumps watch.
A friend posted something rather telling (which if is not true I'd like to see it proved wrong) which is that every republican who received money from the NRA tweeted "Thoughts and prayers" to Las Vegas. Right. :rollingeyes:
That's a more ridiculous of a claim than any republican ever said.
Anti-gun stances openly say they want to ban guns, many on here said they want to completely ban them. So anyone who doesn't want guns completely banned often go to the other extreme to resist. End result is no middle ground is met that could have saved 59 lives this weekend. But go ahead, blame republicans and pretend they are happy about this weekend.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Good god this man is dumb0
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There was talk on the gun violence thread last week and several times prior to that that promoted so many gun restrictions/licenses/fees etc that would make it too expensive for the average person to afford a gun, and in effect banning them completely (except for the super rich).HughFreakingDillon said:
if anyone has called for the complete ban of guns here, I haven't seen it. I have seen, and myself have stated, that in a perfect world, no guns would be ideal. But you can't put that cat back in the bag. It's not realistic, not in the US anyway. So other solutions are needed.mace1229 said:
Why is it impossible to believe if you support gun rights that you wouldn't be saddened by these events? Or as someone else even said if you're republican you wouldn't be saddened?brianlux said:
Pretty much right on. What's really insane is the availability of rapid fire assault weapons like the ones used in Las Vegas.lastexitlondon said:There is a reason this primarily happens in the U.S.
Its a simple reason.
Readily available guns and ammo.
Its time to stop this madness.
It was time long ago.
Watching this huge mass loss of life of free people going to a gig like we all do is truly hard to comprehend for me. But it won't stop on trumps watch.
A friend posted something rather telling (which if is not true I'd like to see it proved wrong) which is that every republican who received money from the NRA tweeted "Thoughts and prayers" to Las Vegas. Right. :rollingeyes:
That's a more ridiculous of a claim than any republican ever said.
Anti-gun stances openly say they want to ban guns, many on here said they want to completely ban them. So anyone who doesn't want guns completely banned often go to the other extreme to resist. End result is no middle ground is met that could have saved 59 lives this weekend. But go ahead, blame republicans and pretend they are happy about this weekend.0 -
That's not a ban anymore than me saying yachts are banned.mace1229 said:
There was talk on the gun violence thread last week and several times prior to that that promoted so many gun restrictions/licenses/fees etc that would make it too expensive for the average person to afford a gun, and in effect banning them completely (except for the super rich).HughFreakingDillon said:
if anyone has called for the complete ban of guns here, I haven't seen it. I have seen, and myself have stated, that in a perfect world, no guns would be ideal. But you can't put that cat back in the bag. It's not realistic, not in the US anyway. So other solutions are needed.mace1229 said:
Why is it impossible to believe if you support gun rights that you wouldn't be saddened by these events? Or as someone else even said if you're republican you wouldn't be saddened?brianlux said:
Pretty much right on. What's really insane is the availability of rapid fire assault weapons like the ones used in Las Vegas.lastexitlondon said:There is a reason this primarily happens in the U.S.
Its a simple reason.
Readily available guns and ammo.
Its time to stop this madness.
It was time long ago.
Watching this huge mass loss of life of free people going to a gig like we all do is truly hard to comprehend for me. But it won't stop on trumps watch.
A friend posted something rather telling (which if is not true I'd like to see it proved wrong) which is that every republican who received money from the NRA tweeted "Thoughts and prayers" to Las Vegas. Right. :rollingeyes:
That's a more ridiculous of a claim than any republican ever said.
Anti-gun stances openly say they want to ban guns, many on here said they want to completely ban them. So anyone who doesn't want guns completely banned often go to the other extreme to resist. End result is no middle ground is met that could have saved 59 lives this weekend. But go ahead, blame republicans and pretend they are happy about this weekend.Post edited by HughFreakingDillon onBy The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
I disagree. If you create policies that eliminate the possibility to own a gun, that's a ban. They just wouldn't call it one so they could claim otherwise.HughFreakingDillon said:
That's not a ban anymore than me saying yachts are banned.mace1229 said:
There was talk on the gun violence thread last week and several times prior to that that promoted so many gun restrictions/licenses/fees etc that would make it too expensive for the average person to afford a gun, and in effect banning them completely (except for the super rich).HughFreakingDillon said:
if anyone has called for the complete ban of guns here, I haven't seen it. I have seen, and myself have stated, that in a perfect world, no guns would be ideal. But you can't put that cat back in the bag. It's not realistic, not in the US anyway. So other solutions are needed.mace1229 said:
Why is it impossible to believe if you support gun rights that you wouldn't be saddened by these events? Or as someone else even said if you're republican you wouldn't be saddened?brianlux said:
Pretty much right on. What's really insane is the availability of rapid fire assault weapons like the ones used in Las Vegas.lastexitlondon said:There is a reason this primarily happens in the U.S.
Its a simple reason.
Readily available guns and ammo.
Its time to stop this madness.
It was time long ago.
Watching this huge mass loss of life of free people going to a gig like we all do is truly hard to comprehend for me. But it won't stop on trumps watch.
A friend posted something rather telling (which if is not true I'd like to see it proved wrong) which is that every republican who received money from the NRA tweeted "Thoughts and prayers" to Las Vegas. Right. :rollingeyes:
That's a more ridiculous of a claim than any republican ever said.
Anti-gun stances openly say they want to ban guns, many on here said they want to completely ban them. So anyone who doesn't want guns completely banned often go to the other extreme to resist. End result is no middle ground is met that could have saved 59 lives this weekend. But go ahead, blame republicans and pretend they are happy about this weekend.
I don't think that would realistically happen, but there are many who said they'd like to see it.0 -
but it's not eliminating the possibility. just get super rich and you'll have your gun.mace1229 said:
I disagree. If you create policies that eliminate the possibility to own a gun, that's a ban. They just wouldn't call it one so they could claim otherwise.HughFreakingDillon said:
That's not a ban anymore than me saying yachts are banned.mace1229 said:
There was talk on the gun violence thread last week and several times prior to that that promoted so many gun restrictions/licenses/fees etc that would make it too expensive for the average person to afford a gun, and in effect banning them completely (except for the super rich).HughFreakingDillon said:
if anyone has called for the complete ban of guns here, I haven't seen it. I have seen, and myself have stated, that in a perfect world, no guns would be ideal. But you can't put that cat back in the bag. It's not realistic, not in the US anyway. So other solutions are needed.mace1229 said:
Why is it impossible to believe if you support gun rights that you wouldn't be saddened by these events? Or as someone else even said if you're republican you wouldn't be saddened?brianlux said:
Pretty much right on. What's really insane is the availability of rapid fire assault weapons like the ones used in Las Vegas.lastexitlondon said:There is a reason this primarily happens in the U.S.
Its a simple reason.
Readily available guns and ammo.
Its time to stop this madness.
It was time long ago.
Watching this huge mass loss of life of free people going to a gig like we all do is truly hard to comprehend for me. But it won't stop on trumps watch.
A friend posted something rather telling (which if is not true I'd like to see it proved wrong) which is that every republican who received money from the NRA tweeted "Thoughts and prayers" to Las Vegas. Right. :rollingeyes:
That's a more ridiculous of a claim than any republican ever said.
Anti-gun stances openly say they want to ban guns, many on here said they want to completely ban them. So anyone who doesn't want guns completely banned often go to the other extreme to resist. End result is no middle ground is met that could have saved 59 lives this weekend. But go ahead, blame republicans and pretend they are happy about this weekend.
I don't think that would realistically happen, but there are many who said they'd like to see it.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
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So I guess that means there is a ban on homes in expensive housing markets, on fancy cars, on foie gras, on nice champagne, on prize winning horses, designer purses and shoes, fine art, and literally every single other thing in the consumer market that every person in America can't afford. The difference is that none of those things are made for the sole purpose of killing something.mace1229 said:
I disagree. If you create policies that eliminate the possibility to own a gun, that's a ban. They just wouldn't call it one so they could claim otherwise.HughFreakingDillon said:
That's not a ban anymore than me saying yachts are banned.mace1229 said:
There was talk on the gun violence thread last week and several times prior to that that promoted so many gun restrictions/licenses/fees etc that would make it too expensive for the average person to afford a gun, and in effect banning them completely (except for the super rich).HughFreakingDillon said:
if anyone has called for the complete ban of guns here, I haven't seen it. I have seen, and myself have stated, that in a perfect world, no guns would be ideal. But you can't put that cat back in the bag. It's not realistic, not in the US anyway. So other solutions are needed.mace1229 said:
Why is it impossible to believe if you support gun rights that you wouldn't be saddened by these events? Or as someone else even said if you're republican you wouldn't be saddened?brianlux said:
Pretty much right on. What's really insane is the availability of rapid fire assault weapons like the ones used in Las Vegas.lastexitlondon said:There is a reason this primarily happens in the U.S.
Its a simple reason.
Readily available guns and ammo.
Its time to stop this madness.
It was time long ago.
Watching this huge mass loss of life of free people going to a gig like we all do is truly hard to comprehend for me. But it won't stop on trumps watch.
A friend posted something rather telling (which if is not true I'd like to see it proved wrong) which is that every republican who received money from the NRA tweeted "Thoughts and prayers" to Las Vegas. Right. :rollingeyes:
That's a more ridiculous of a claim than any republican ever said.
Anti-gun stances openly say they want to ban guns, many on here said they want to completely ban them. So anyone who doesn't want guns completely banned often go to the other extreme to resist. End result is no middle ground is met that could have saved 59 lives this weekend. But go ahead, blame republicans and pretend they are happy about this weekend.
I don't think that would realistically happen, but there are many who said they'd like to see it.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
The differences are those things aren't marked up by the government with the sole purpose of preventing most people from obtaining them.PJ_Soul said:
So I guess that means there is a ban on homes in expensive housing markets, on fancy cars, on foie gras, on nice champagne, on prize winning horses, designer purses and shoes, fine art, and literally every single other thing in the consumer market that every person in America can't afford. The difference is that none of those things are made for the sole purpose of killing something.mace1229 said:
I disagree. If you create policies that eliminate the possibility to own a gun, that's a ban. They just wouldn't call it one so they could claim otherwise.HughFreakingDillon said:
That's not a ban anymore than me saying yachts are banned.mace1229 said:
There was talk on the gun violence thread last week and several times prior to that that promoted so many gun restrictions/licenses/fees etc that would make it too expensive for the average person to afford a gun, and in effect banning them completely (except for the super rich).HughFreakingDillon said:
if anyone has called for the complete ban of guns here, I haven't seen it. I have seen, and myself have stated, that in a perfect world, no guns would be ideal. But you can't put that cat back in the bag. It's not realistic, not in the US anyway. So other solutions are needed.mace1229 said:
Why is it impossible to believe if you support gun rights that you wouldn't be saddened by these events? Or as someone else even said if you're republican you wouldn't be saddened?brianlux said:
Pretty much right on. What's really insane is the availability of rapid fire assault weapons like the ones used in Las Vegas.lastexitlondon said:There is a reason this primarily happens in the U.S.
Its a simple reason.
Readily available guns and ammo.
Its time to stop this madness.
It was time long ago.
Watching this huge mass loss of life of free people going to a gig like we all do is truly hard to comprehend for me. But it won't stop on trumps watch.
A friend posted something rather telling (which if is not true I'd like to see it proved wrong) which is that every republican who received money from the NRA tweeted "Thoughts and prayers" to Las Vegas. Right. :rollingeyes:
That's a more ridiculous of a claim than any republican ever said.
Anti-gun stances openly say they want to ban guns, many on here said they want to completely ban them. So anyone who doesn't want guns completely banned often go to the other extreme to resist. End result is no middle ground is met that could have saved 59 lives this weekend. But go ahead, blame republicans and pretend they are happy about this weekend.
I don't think that would realistically happen, but there are many who said they'd like to see it.
If the government came down and said you cannot sell a bottle of wine for less than $300 a bottle and that became federal law, then yes, I would say the government has essentially created a ban on wine. That was the intention and that was the outcome.
Doing the same thing with guns would be no different.
I'm not saying I'm against gun restrictions. I'm just saying if the government or politicians create policies that are not based around gun safety, but instead with the sole intent of preventing the average person from getting a gun, that is a ban in my opinion.0 -
Well, it's not because that isn't what a ban is. It's called harsh restrictions.
I'm not sure it matters though, since many people don't give a flying fuck, since they place public safety before any kind of argument one might present about what's fair.
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Maybe not a ban by definition, but serves the same purpose and has the same affect as a ban.
Its like saying we no longer have a speed limit, then mandating that the top speed on every car is capped at 65 mph. Could you claim that you really got rid of speed limits then? I guess if you wanted to be technical you could, but I wouldn't agree.
So its a way to create a ban without really having a ban or calling it a ban.
I don't necessarily disagree with whats been said, other than the logistical difference between a ban or not. Guns aren't going away. The more people push to "ban" a gun the more resistance there will be.
I'm a casual gun owner in the sense I go target shooting about twice a year, usually pick oranges up from my parents' orchard and watch them explode. That's a fun afternoon to me. I have no need or desire for tactical style weapons, never been hunting and don't really care to. I have no desire for assault rifles and hi capacity mags. Just give me a .22 and let me shoot up some old childhood toys I dug out of the garage.
But i Know several avid gun owners who are all of those things I described. And all of the ones I know don't like gun restrictions because they have the mentality of "give and inch take a mile." All the "All guns = bad" and "No guns" talk instills in them that the gun restrictions will get tighter and tighter until there are no guns left. So when a ban against assault rifles comes, or a ban against hi capacity mags come they fight against it, because they believe it won't stop there.
My point is if anything is to get done, both sides need to be willing to compromise.Take a deep look at this shooting and many others and ask what could have prevented this? What about our current laws that made this so easy? When both sides want all or nothing, its the nothing that wins out.0 -
everyone should be forced to walk around naked with all backpacks and purses are clear plastic. problem solved.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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I think capping how fast a car can legally be built to go at 65 mph is a fucking great idea, lol. I don't know why this didn't happen years ago... oh yeah, wait, it's because of all the jackasses who think it's awesome to go really dangerously fast in cars, no matter how many people speeding kills every year. Gotta put "awesome shit" first! Yeah, you can come back with all kinds of crazy comparisons as red herring arguments, but those generally ignore common sense.
Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
it's funny. even as a young kid I would ask my dad "why does this car go up to 200 km/hour if that's too dangerous?".PJ_Soul said:I think capping how fast a car can legally be build to go at 65 mph is a fucking great idea, lol. I don't know why this didn't happen years ago... oh yeah, wait, it's because of all the jackasses who think it's awesome to go really dangerously fast in cars, no matter how many people speeding kills every years. Gotta put "awesome shit" first! Yeah, you can come back with all kinds of crazy comparisons as red herring arguments, but those generally ignore common sense.
it has never, nor will it ever, make sense.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Good grief. His verbal output is toxic waste.igotid88 said:
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