Donald Trump

HughFreakingDillon · September 2017

JC29856 said:

Smellyman said:

rgambs said:

hurricanezeke said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

* Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error.

I am a Republican voter. Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread. I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs. I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.
I would never join this debate on this forum. Your opinion is already developed...

This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

Tough to defend the indefensible. It is an easy cop out.

'I could debate, but your opinion is made up'

Yeah, that's how it works. /s

When ideology is so strong and so stubborn you can't admit right from wrong, black from white,up from down. I guess that is how you dodge debate....and responsibility.

yeah come here to debate where some can't differentiate between a statement and a question?

good god, let it go.

HesCalledDyer · September 2017

hurricanezeke said:

rgambs said:

hurricanezeke said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

* Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error.

I am a Republican voter. Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread. I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs. I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.
I would never join this debate on this forum. Your opinion is already developed...

This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

Wrong. But again, my opinions are discounted before having heard them.

Let's hear them. I'm a roast, baste me.

Bentleyspop · September 2017

HesCalledDyer said:

hurricanezeke said:

rgambs said:

hurricanezeke said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

* Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error.

I am a Republican voter. Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread. I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs. I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.
I would never join this debate on this forum. Your opinion is already developed...

This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

Wrong. But again, my opinions are discounted before having heard them.

Let's hear them. I'm a roast, baste me.

I'd like to hear them as well.
I'm interested in having a voter/supporter of his come on here and defend him and his words and behaviors in a clear, concise, and cogent manner.
Not as a troll

oftenreading · September 2017

JC29856 said:

Smellyman said:

rgambs said:

hurricanezeke said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

* Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error.

I am a Republican voter. Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread. I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs. I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.
I would never join this debate on this forum. Your opinion is already developed...

This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

Tough to defend the indefensible. It is an easy cop out.

'I could debate, but your opinion is made up'

Yeah, that's how it works. /s

When ideology is so strong and so stubborn you can't admit right from wrong, black from white,up from down. I guess that is how you dodge debate....and responsibility.

yeah come here to debate where some can't differentiate between a statement and a question?

Possibly if you don't end a statement with a question mark, it will go better for you.

JC29856 · September 2017

oftenreading said:

JC29856 said:

Smellyman said:

rgambs said:

hurricanezeke said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

* Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error.

I am a Republican voter. Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread. I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs. I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.
I would never join this debate on this forum. Your opinion is already developed...

This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

Tough to defend the indefensible. It is an easy cop out.

'I could debate, but your opinion is made up'

Yeah, that's how it works. /s

When ideology is so strong and so stubborn you can't admit right from wrong, black from white,up from down. I guess that is how you dodge debate....and responsibility.

yeah come here to debate where some can't differentiate between a statement and a question?

Possibly if you don't end a statement with a question mark, it will go better for you.

I'm glad you noticed!

hurricanezeke · September 2017

Bentleyspop said:

HesCalledDyer said:

hurricanezeke said:

rgambs said:

hurricanezeke said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

* Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error.

I am a Republican voter. Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread. I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs. I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.
I would never join this debate on this forum. Your opinion is already developed...

This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

Wrong. But again, my opinions are discounted before having heard them.

Let's hear them. I'm a roast, baste me.

I'd like to hear them as well.
I'm interested in having a voter/supporter of his come on here and defend him and his words and behaviors in a clear, concise, and cogent manner.
Not as a troll

I should have been more clear when putting myself out here. I stated I am a republican voter. I'm not the guy that defends Trump's every move. Those are the people I think you're looking for. I'm not that person. So I'm not going to defend a lot of what is taking place. I can't, I won't. What has transpired is far from my hopes of a Trump presidency. Outside of my 401(k) growth, not a whole lot has been accomplished that I can be proud of. I did NOT vote for Trump in the primaries. I did not think he was a serious candidate.

I won't go line by line how I feel about all the issues, but I still support much of the republican agenda. Specifically replacement of the ACA, immigration reform, social program and welfare stability (not growth), among others. Given my feelings on the issues, I would not have voted democrat in the 2016 election.

ikiT · September 2017

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oftenreading · September 2017

hurricanezeke said:

Bentleyspop said:

HesCalledDyer said:

hurricanezeke said:

rgambs said:

hurricanezeke said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

* Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error.

I am a Republican voter. Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread. I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs. I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.
I would never join this debate on this forum. Your opinion is already developed...

This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

Wrong. But again, my opinions are discounted before having heard them.

Let's hear them. I'm a roast, baste me.

I'd like to hear them as well.
I'm interested in having a voter/supporter of his come on here and defend him and his words and behaviors in a clear, concise, and cogent manner.
Not as a troll

I should have been more clear when putting myself out here. I stated I am a republican voter. I'm not the guy that defends Trump's every move. Those are the people I think you're looking for. I'm not that person. So I'm not going to defend a lot of what is taking place. I can't, I won't. What has transpired is far from my hopes of a Trump presidency. Outside of my 401(k) growth, not a whole lot has been accomplished that I can be proud of. I did NOT vote for Trump in the primaries. I did not think he was a serious candidate.

I won't go line by line how I feel about all the issues, but I still support much of the republican agenda. Specifically replacement of the ACA, immigration reform, social program and welfare stability (not growth), among others. Given my feelings on the issues, I would not have voted democrat in the 2016 election.

Thanks for this reply.

So, you're saying that, given what you know now, you still wouldn't have voted democrat in the last election. Would you have voted for trump, or someone else, or not voted?

tbergs · September 2017

hurricanezeke said:

rgambs said:

hurricanezeke said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

* Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error.

I am a Republican voter. Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread. I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs. I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.
I would never join this debate on this forum. Your opinion is already developed...

This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

Wrong. But again, my opinions are discounted before having heard them.

Well, it's not like this is the Breitbart forum

. You may get some very lively responses and be in the minority, but that could be any thread in the AMT. I'm pretty sure none of us on here 100% agree on any topic. I don't agree with everything said in any forum topic and will state my position and view even though it may not be popular or accepted. I don't speak my opinions with the intent of making someone else agree with me, but I do hope it offers a different perspective that maybe wasn't considered. I am actually more interested in the response I get regarding my opinion or line of thinking because it exposes it to critical review, which benefits everyone involved.

HughFreakingDillon · September 2017

hurricanezeke said:

Bentleyspop said:

HesCalledDyer said:

hurricanezeke said:

rgambs said:

hurricanezeke said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

* Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error.

I am a Republican voter. Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread. I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs. I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.
I would never join this debate on this forum. Your opinion is already developed...

This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

Wrong. But again, my opinions are discounted before having heard them.

Let's hear them. I'm a roast, baste me.

I'd like to hear them as well.
I'm interested in having a voter/supporter of his come on here and defend him and his words and behaviors in a clear, concise, and cogent manner.
Not as a troll

I should have been more clear when putting myself out here. I stated I am a republican voter. I'm not the guy that defends Trump's every move. Those are the people I think you're looking for. I'm not that person. So I'm not going to defend a lot of what is taking place. I can't, I won't. What has transpired is far from my hopes of a Trump presidency. Outside of my 401(k) growth, not a whole lot has been accomplished that I can be proud of. I did NOT vote for Trump in the primaries. I did not think he was a serious candidate.

I won't go line by line how I feel about all the issues, but I still support much of the republican agenda. Specifically replacement of the ACA, immigration reform, social program and welfare stability (not growth), among others. Given my feelings on the issues, I would not have voted democrat in the 2016 election.

the thing is, many democrats also support many of those agendas, but in a sensible, bipartisan manner. Obama himself has said ACA needs improvement. everyone knows immigration reform is needed. not this "let's gut all of Obama's policies no matter the cost" that Trump is trying to bash through. it's clear all he cares about is dismantling Obama's legacy, and calling that his own. he is a brutal failure already, and it's not going to get better.

ikiT · September 2017

tbergs said:

hurricanezeke said:

rgambs said:

hurricanezeke said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

* Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error.

I am a Republican voter. Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread. I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs. I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.
I would never join this debate on this forum. Your opinion is already developed...

This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

Wrong. But again, my opinions are discounted before having heard them.

Well, it's not like this is the Breitbart forum . You may get some very lively responses and be in the minority, but that could be any thread in the AMT. I'm pretty sure none of us on here 100% agree on any topic. I don't agree with everything said in any forum topic and will state my position and view even though it may not be popular or accepted. I don't speak my opinions with the intent of making someone else agree with me, but I do hope it offers a different perspective that maybe wasn't considered. I am actually more interested in the response I get regarding my opinion or line of thinking because it exposes it to critical review, which benefits everyone involved.

There's a lot be said for infiltrating the echo chamber that is BB.

hurricanezeke · September 2017

the thing is, many democrats also support many of those agendas, but in a sensible, bipartisan manner. Obama himself has said ACA needs improvement. everyone knows immigration reform is needed. not this "let's gut all of Obama's policies no matter the cost" that Trump is trying to bash through. it's clear all he cares about is dismantling Obama's legacy, and calling that his own. he is a brutal failure already, and it's not going to get better.

Bentleyspop · September 2017

hurricanezeke said:

Bentleyspop said:

HesCalledDyer said:

hurricanezeke said:

rgambs said:

hurricanezeke said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

* Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error.

I am a Republican voter. Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread. I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs. I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.
I would never join this debate on this forum. Your opinion is already developed...

This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

Wrong. But again, my opinions are discounted before having heard them.

Let's hear them. I'm a roast, baste me.

I'd like to hear them as well.
I'm interested in having a voter/supporter of his come on here and defend him and his words and behaviors in a clear, concise, and cogent manner.
Not as a troll

I should have been more clear when putting myself out here. I stated I am a republican voter. I'm not the guy that defends Trump's every move. Those are the people I think you're looking for. I'm not that person. So I'm not going to defend a lot of what is taking place. I can't, I won't. What has transpired is far from my hopes of a Trump presidency. Outside of my 401(k) growth, not a whole lot has been accomplished that I can be proud of. I did NOT vote for Trump in the primaries. I did not think he was a serious candidate.

I won't go line by line how I feel about all the issues, but I still support much of the republican agenda. Specifically replacement of the ACA, immigration reform, social program and welfare stability (not growth), among others. Given my feelings on the issues, I would not have voted democrat in the 2016 election.

Thanks for your well thought out response.
This is an example of what we need more of on here.
Yes this is the fan forum of a very left leaning, liberal, democrat supporting band. But differing opinions, when they are thoughtfully and intelligently presented, are always welcome.
As far I know, and other than my own increasing 401K, nothing has been accomplished by the currently elected president (and I wont give him credit for that either) beyond creating more divisiveness among Americans.

hurricanezeke · September 2017

I should have been more clear when putting myself out here. I stated I am a republican voter. I'm not the guy that defends Trump's every move. Those are

Thanks for your well thought out response.
This is an example of what we need more of on here.
Yes this is the fan forum of a very left leaning, liberal, democrat supporting band. But differing opinions, when they are thoughtfully and intelligently presented, are always welcome.
As far I know, and other than my own increasing 401K, nothing has been accomplished by the currently elected president (and I wont give him credit for that either) beyond creating more divisiveness among Americans.

Yeah, let's say accomplishments "since the election in November" without giving credit.

hurricanezeke · September 2017

oftenreading said:

hurricanezeke said:

Bentleyspop said:

HesCalledDyer said:

hurricanezeke said:

rgambs said:

hurricanezeke said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

* Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error.

I am a Republican voter. Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread. I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs. I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.
I would never join this debate on this forum. Your opinion is already developed...

This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

Wrong. But again, my opinions are discounted before having heard them.

Let's hear them. I'm a roast, baste me.

I'd like to hear them as well.
I'm interested in having a voter/supporter of his come on here and defend him and his words and behaviors in a clear, concise, and cogent manner.
Not as a troll

I should have been more clear when putting myself out here. I stated I am a republican voter. I'm not the guy that defends Trump's every move. Those are the people I think you're looking for. I'm not that person. So I'm not going to defend a lot of what is taking place. I can't, I won't. What has transpired is far from my hopes of a Trump presidency. Outside of my 401(k) growth, not a whole lot has been accomplished that I can be proud of. I did NOT vote for Trump in the primaries. I did not think he was a serious candidate.

I won't go line by line how I feel about all the issues, but I still support much of the republican agenda. Specifically replacement of the ACA, immigration reform, social program and welfare stability (not growth), among others. Given my feelings on the issues, I would not have voted democrat in the 2016 election.

Thanks for this reply.

So, you're saying that, given what you know now, you still wouldn't have voted democrat in the last election. Would you have voted for trump, or someone else, or not voted?

I hate to say, but I likely would have not voted, which would have been a first for me. And hopefully the last.

When I became an eligible voter I never would have imagined there would be a time in which I had trouble supporting either party's candidate.

JC29856 · September 2017

hurricanezeke said:

oftenreading said:

hurricanezeke said:

Bentleyspop said:

HesCalledDyer said:

hurricanezeke said:

rgambs said:

hurricanezeke said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

* Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error.

I am a Republican voter. Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread. I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs. I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.
I would never join this debate on this forum. Your opinion is already developed...

This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

Wrong. But again, my opinions are discounted before having heard them.

Let's hear them. I'm a roast, baste me.

I'd like to hear them as well.
I'm interested in having a voter/supporter of his come on here and defend him and his words and behaviors in a clear, concise, and cogent manner.
Not as a troll

I should have been more clear when putting myself out here. I stated I am a republican voter. I'm not the guy that defends Trump's every move. Those are the people I think you're looking for. I'm not that person. So I'm not going to defend a lot of what is taking place. I can't, I won't. What has transpired is far from my hopes of a Trump presidency. Outside of my 401(k) growth, not a whole lot has been accomplished that I can be proud of. I did NOT vote for Trump in the primaries. I did not think he was a serious candidate.

I won't go line by line how I feel about all the issues, but I still support much of the republican agenda. Specifically replacement of the ACA, immigration reform, social program and welfare stability (not growth), among others. Given my feelings on the issues, I would not have voted democrat in the 2016 election.

Thanks for this reply.

So, you're saying that, given what you know now, you still wouldn't have voted democrat in the last election. Would you have voted for trump, or someone else, or not voted?

I hate to say, but I likely would have not voted, which would have been a first for me. And hopefully the last.

When I became an eligible voter I never would have imagined there would be a time in which I had trouble supporting either party's candidate.

it's becoming more and more difficult to tell the difference between the two candidates, Democrat and Republican.

if Hilliary was the GOP nominee would you have voted for her?

Thirty Bills Unpaid · September 2017

hurricanezeke said:

Bentleyspop said:

HesCalledDyer said:

hurricanezeke said:

rgambs said:

hurricanezeke said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

* Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error.

I am a Republican voter. Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread. I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs. I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.
I would never join this debate on this forum. Your opinion is already developed...

This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

Wrong. But again, my opinions are discounted before having heard them.

Let's hear them. I'm a roast, baste me.

I'd like to hear them as well.
I'm interested in having a voter/supporter of his come on here and defend him and his words and behaviors in a clear, concise, and cogent manner.
Not as a troll

I should have been more clear when putting myself out here. I stated I am a republican voter. I'm not the guy that defends Trump's every move. Those are the people I think you're looking for. I'm not that person. So I'm not going to defend a lot of what is taking place. I can't, I won't. What has transpired is far from my hopes of a Trump presidency. Outside of my 401(k) growth, not a whole lot has been accomplished that I can be proud of. I did NOT vote for Trump in the primaries. I did not think he was a serious candidate.

I won't go line by line how I feel about all the issues, but I still support much of the republican agenda. Specifically replacement of the ACA, immigration reform, social program and welfare stability (not growth), among others. Given my feelings on the issues, I would not have voted democrat in the 2016 election.

This is a good comment. Really good actually.

It seems to me that perhaps you might have been let down by your Republican party. You might have spoiled your ballot or not voted at all given the alternative of supporting the orange one.

mrussel1 · September 2017

Trump isn't a Republican. I think we should all be able to dispel that notion. His stance on trade alone makes eliminates him from that territory. Trump is a Trumpist. It's a low grade cult of whatever decision leads to the ability to declare victory, regardless of the principle. I just don't understand how the lemmings fall in step at every turn. No matter what he says, they support it. It's really astounding. And I'm not saying Trump is a Nazi with this statement, but it makes clear how a country like German fell to the forces of evil without a fight back in 33. There are so many people that will support a person regardless of the position. We are witnessing it first hand.

dignin · September 2017

mrussel1 said:

Trump isn't a Republican. I think we should all be able to dispel that notion. His stance on trade alone makes eliminates him from that territory. Trump is a Trumpist. It's a low grade cult of whatever decision leads to the ability to declare victory, regardless of the principle. I just don't understand how the lemmings fall in step at every turn. No matter what he says, they support it. It's really astounding. And I'm not saying Trump is a Nazi with this statement, but it makes clear how a country like German fell to the forces of evil without a fight back in 33. There are so many people that will support a person regardless of the position. We are witnessing it first hand.

Recent polling shows that the vast majority of republicans support Trump but don't support the party. Things evolve, this is now the republican party.

Republicans are signaling they prefer President Donald Trump's vision for the party, with 79% saying he is taking it in the right direction. A majority of GOP voters -- 53% -- believe Republican leaders in Congress are taking the party in the wrong direction.

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/09/24/politics/cnn-poll-republican-party-approval/index.html

Go Beavers · September 2017

hurricanezeke said:

the thing is, many democrats also support many of those agendas, but in a sensible, bipartisan manner. Obama himself has said ACA needs improvement. everyone knows immigration reform is needed. not this "let's gut all of Obama's policies no matter the cost" that Trump is trying to bash through. it's clear all he cares about is dismantling Obama's legacy, and calling that his own. he is a brutal failure already, and it's not going to get better.

Yes I agree completely, but how to reform differs greatly on both sides of the aisle. We all wish for a "sensible, bipartisan manner", but that isn't happening right now regardless of who is sitting in the oval office.

Regarding what you said about 'welfare stability, and not growth', you know the rate of people on public assistance has been dropping for several years now.

Donald Trump

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