Hillary Clinton: What happened

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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,369
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    if Hillary takes all responsibility for Trump's win/her loss, then she isn't giving Trump enough credit that he won on his own merits. 
    if Hillary doesn't take all responsibility for Trump's win/her loss, then she's playing the blame game and is a whiner and needs to go away. 

    she can't win either way. 
    I can't comprehend how people seemingly need to reduce this binary outcome (win or lose) to a binary reason. There are a litany of reasons, all with varying degrees of impact, for the outcome of the election. Some of these traits or positions by a candidate appealed to some voters, and dissuaded others, in unknowable ratios. So why bother? 
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617



    If anyone can grab me a signed copy I'll throw some cash and merch otherwise l'll check the local library in a few weeks since my curiosity is peaked. I'm anxious to compare the book (public version) to the emails (private version).
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,245
    edited September 2017
    JC29856 said:



    If anyone can grab me a signed copy I'll throw some cash and merch otherwise l'll check the local library in a few weeks since my curiosity is peaked. I'm anxious to compare the book (public version) to the emails (private version).
    Sorry, but you're not going to find Hillary waxing poetic about missing the taste of Comet Pizza while campaigning through Iowa.
     
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,192
    Kat said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Started reading it this morning....she very clearly accepts all blame for her loss in the first few pages of the book.

    The narrative that she blames others is over.
    They're going to keep saying that anyway though. People have their own truth now and facts don't matter to them. I'm enjoying the read. What she was thinking during the inauguration was interesting. I'll have to read more later.
    Yes that was interesting.  I can't imagine the guts it took to sit up there and listen to that speech knowing she got 3 million more votes than that idiot.

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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,961
    edited September 2017
    Absolutely, she sure did... and I can without reservation say that that was the first time George W Bush made me laugh. Picture the setting and him saying that...it was hilarious. 
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited September 2017
    see this here, Laura Loomer, Hilliary knows who she is and is nothing but cordial beyond polite yet Loomer still decides to harass Hillary with alt-stupid questions. get a life.
    totally uncalled for, Hillary is or will be one of the top political figures in history, took her lumps year after year after year but idiots still feel it necessary to harassment her for self promotion.
    sick
    I hope she was dragged out by her nostrils. 



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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited September 2017
    wait for it! nighty night


  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    If I've said it once I've probably said it a hundred times.  Hillary lost because the first thought in minds when hearing her name is Monica not President.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    JC29856 said:
    see this here, Laura Loomer, Hilliary knows who she is and is nothing but cordial beyond polite yet Loomer still decides to harass Hillary with alt-stupid questions. get a life.
    totally uncalled for, Hillary is or will be one of the top political figures in history, took her lumps year after year after year but idiots still feel it necessary to harassment her for self promotion.
    sick
    I hope she was dragged out by her nostrils. 



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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited September 2017
    ^^^
    See, now that is funny shit up there.  Hillary and all writing a book and speaking on television about promoting her loss.  

  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,597
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    ^^^
    See, now that is funny shit up there.  Hillary and all writing a book and speaking on television about promoting her loss.  

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  • CM189191
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    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    If I've said it once I've probably said it a hundred times.  Hillary lost because the first thought in minds when hearing her name is Monica not President.
    so how many times are you going to repeat yourself until you realize no one gives shit what you think, PJfannowhereelsetogo?
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,831
    Kat said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Started reading it this morning....she very clearly accepts all blame for her loss in the first few pages of the book.

    The narrative that she blames others is over.
    They're going to keep saying that anyway though. People have their own truth now and facts don't matter to them. I'm enjoying the read. What she was thinking during the inauguration was interesting. I'll have to read more later.
    Don't care to read the book, but I heard her blame Russia and Comey in two different interviews about the book. I didn't hear her say she could have worked on trust or ran a better campaign. Which I think is the real reason. Agree or not, America has a trust issue with her.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    mace1229 said:
    Kat said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Started reading it this morning....she very clearly accepts all blame for her loss in the first few pages of the book.

    The narrative that she blames others is over.
    They're going to keep saying that anyway though. People have their own truth now and facts don't matter to them. I'm enjoying the read. What she was thinking during the inauguration was interesting. I'll have to read more later.
    Don't care to read the book, but I heard her blame Russia and Comey in two different interviews about the book. I didn't hear her say she could have worked on trust or ran a better campaign. Which I think is the real reason. Agree or not, America has a trust issue with her.
    she has stated in several different interviews/etc that Russia, Comey, and Sanders don't get all the blame. She has absolutely taken responsibility for her failed campaign, but notes there is not one single factor that lead to her defeat. 
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,560
    mace1229 said:
    Kat said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Started reading it this morning....she very clearly accepts all blame for her loss in the first few pages of the book.

    The narrative that she blames others is over.
    They're going to keep saying that anyway though. People have their own truth now and facts don't matter to them. I'm enjoying the read. What she was thinking during the inauguration was interesting. I'll have to read more later.
    Don't care to read the book, but I heard her blame Russia and Comey in two different interviews about the book. I didn't hear her say she could have worked on trust or ran a better campaign. Which I think is the real reason. Agree or not, America has a trust issue with her.
    The level of mistrust wasn't aligned with reality, though. It was driven by a lot of repetitive Clinton hate since 2000 and grasping at threads. Also factor in the different expectations she had placed on her based on her gender. 
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,675
    edited September 2017
    Kat said:
    Absolutely, she sure did... and I can without reservation say that that was the first time George W Bush made me laugh. Picture the setting and him saying that...it was hilarious. 
    GW was on fire that day. That comment along with the hilarious fight with his rain poncho... Delightful! :rofl:
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,961
    edited September 2017
    You mean this? :)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8_LeCpa_RI

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  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    I am almost done the book and quite like it.  I agree that Hillary does take the blame for her lost.  I would also say that the book is not just about what happen but what will keep happening if things don't change. 


  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,675
    Kat said:
    You mean this? :)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8_LeCpa_RI

    :lol: And Dick Cheney's bemused expression behind him makes it even better .... best thing that ever came out of that relationship. :lol:
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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,961
    mace1229 said:
    Kat said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Started reading it this morning....she very clearly accepts all blame for her loss in the first few pages of the book.

    The narrative that she blames others is over.
    They're going to keep saying that anyway though. People have their own truth now and facts don't matter to them. I'm enjoying the read. What she was thinking during the inauguration was interesting. I'll have to read more later.
    Don't care to read the book, but I heard her blame Russia and Comey in two different interviews about the book. I didn't hear her say she could have worked on trust or ran a better campaign. Which I think is the real reason. Agree or not, America has a trust issue with her.
    That's what you're missing by not reading the book. I have no trust issues with her. I read and listen to what she's saying and watch what she's done, not take other people's comments about her. Her approval rating when leaving the Secretary of State position was 69% and Republicans thought she did a great job. They stopped saying that when she ran for office and so now I can't believe anything they say after that because they savaged her so dishonestly. One guy said she was the antiChrist. Seriously? She told him later she really wasn't. Ha...what a sense of humor.  That's in the book. :)
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