Hillary Clinton: What happened

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  • brianlux
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    I still say, no matter what anyone thinks of Hillary Clinton, the fact that she lost to a clown says a lot about out both the poor showing of her candidacy and even more so, the wretched state of the American voting public.  How could so many people vote so foolishly? Why are there so many idiots in this country?   It boggles my mind. 



    I really believe the lack of enforcement of immigration law over the last few decades is a key factor in why Trump won.  The illegals aren't the reason that jobs are gone (technology followed by globalization is), but they are a scapegoat to a large number of Trump supporters because there are so many.  They have to blame something and our political leaders and their ineptitude feed this way of thinking.   Trump played on this sentiment and it got him in the White House.   I don't think a large portion of Trump's voters are racist, but they just need someone to blame for their economic woes.   The Dems think that all but ignoring borders will help Hispanic immigrants, but I think it feeds unrest in the country that wouldn't be there if we had 12 million legal immigrants in this country instead of illegal. 
    No doubt immigration had some bearing on the election.  Just how much, I'm not sure.

    America is conflicted, confused, and often contradictory regarding immigration issues.  Many don't want any immigrants and even more don't want illegal immigrants and yet we wouldn't have much of our agriculture without both so we bring them in to pick and hoe and clean our motel rooms. 

    When it comes to farming, how many white people do we see out in the fields picking?  I don't know about in other parts of the country but our here in the west, almost never.  My brother runs a small family farming operation.  He relies on help from legal Mexican immigrants for plant, hoeing, picking, etc.  Without their employment, he would not be able to bring in crops.  The only white guys I ever saw in the fields were a few white kids with work permits making a few bucks in the summer and me, in my 40's between teaching jobs trying to help out a little.  And that work damn near busted my ass.  Damn, that's hard work!  White guys almost never want to work like that, at least that's my experience from empirical evidence.

    We don't want them here! 
    We need them here to pick and clean!
    Send them away!
    Sneak them in, especially the illegals to corporate farms, fuck yeah!
    Build a wall!
    Sneak 'em over the wall!
    Keep them all out!
    Let them all in!

    America has its head up its ass when it comes to immigration.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Meanwhile Hillary released 20 years of tax returns, has faced multiple investigations and yet, has never been charged with a crime nor copped a plea or settled to make a charge go away. Wonder if our president can claim the same?
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  • And Bernie and his wife seem to be in some trouble. But hey, you know, Antifa!
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  • JC29856
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    edited September 2017



    I really wasn't ready to run against a monkey that was dropped on his baby monkey head either
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    I really wasn't ready to run against a monkey that was dropped on his baby monkey head either
    So she wasn't ready to run against the guy she was running against?

    must be Russia's fault....or Comey...or Bernie....who else again Hills???? She's literally the worst candidate ever. Lost dem nomination to Obama when it was a "slam dunk". Lost to Obama because of "hope and change" no real issues. Then loses easily the most winnable presidential contest to an freakin idiot.  Lost to another candidate that had no specifics and only offered phrases "make America great again".  Fool me once (2008) Shane on you, fool me twice? Dammit Hillary admit it you had all the opportunities in the world k be prepared but your ego and general inability to have any smidgen of likeability killed your chances again.
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  • What kind of message does it portray to women that standing by your husbands infidelity is ok?  She is so pathetic and weak.  The only thing I think of when I hear her name or see her face is Bill Clinton getting oral sex in the oval office from someone other than her.  She has no platform to speak to women or girls on any issue of empowerment after not ditching her husband.
  • JC29856
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    edited September 2017
    JC29856 said:



    I really wasn't ready to run against a monkey that was dropped on his baby monkey head either
    So she wasn't ready to run against the guy she was running against?

    must be Russia's fault....or Comey...or Bernie....who else again Hills???? She's literally the worst candidate ever. Lost dem nomination to Obama when it was a "slam dunk". Lost to Obama because of "hope and change" no real issues. Then loses easily the most winnable presidential contest to an freakin idiot.  Lost to another candidate that had no specifics and only offered phrases "make America great again".  Fool me once (2008) Shane on you, fool me twice? Dammit Hillary admit it you had all the opportunities in the world k be prepared but your ego and general inability to have any smidgen of likeability killed your chances again.
    the one thing she won't admit, not enough republicans voted for her
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    I really wasn't ready to run against a monkey that was dropped on his baby monkey head either
    She just needs to go away.  She lost to Donald Trump :rofl:
  • JC29856
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    I really wasn't ready to run against a monkey that was dropped on his baby monkey head either
    She just needs to go away.  She lost to Donald Trump :rofl:
    I think republicans want her to hang around awhile
  • The Juggler
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    What kind of message does it portray to women that standing by your husbands infidelity is ok?  She is so pathetic and weak.  The only thing I think of when I hear her name or see her face is Bill Clinton getting oral sex in the oval office from someone other than her.  She has no platform to speak to women or girls on any issue of empowerment after not ditching her husband.
    In general, what do you think about husbands who are unfaithful?
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  • ^^^
    In general, mean.

  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    ^^^
    In general, mean.

    Does it reflect poor character? Can you expand on what you mean?
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  • JC29856
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    ^^^
    In general, mean.

    I general half the married people you see have or are getting or giving oral sex to someone other than their spouse!
  • JC29856 said:
    ^^^
    In general, mean.

    I general half the married people you see have or are getting or giving oral sex to someone other than their spouse!
    I don't think Trump is getting or giving any kind of sex, oral or otherwise. Part of why he's such a douche.
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  • The Juggler
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    JC29856 said:
    ^^^
    In general, mean.

    I general half the married people you see have or are getting or giving oral sex to someone other than their spouse!
    I don't think Trump is getting or giving any kind of sex, oral or otherwise. Part of why he's such a douche.
    Well does a Russian hooker peeing on you count?
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  • JC29856 said:
    ^^^
    In general, mean.

    I general half the married people you see have or are getting or giving oral sex to someone other than their spouse!
    I don't think Trump is getting or giving any kind of sex, oral or otherwise. Part of why he's such a douche.
    Well does a Russian hooker peeing on you count?
    We'll have to wait for the DNA evidence to make that determination. The sheets, depends and the handkerchief with writing are at the lab being tested.
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  • CM189191
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    What kind of message does it portray to women that standing by your husbands infidelity is ok?  She is so pathetic and weak.  The only thing I think of when I hear her name or see her face is Bill Clinton getting oral sex in the oval office from someone other than her.  She has no platform to speak to women or girls on any issue of empowerment after not ditching her husband.

  • CM189191
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    JC29856 said:



    I really wasn't ready to run against a monkey that was dropped on his baby monkey head either
    What a very polite way of saying " I under-estimated the stupidity of the average voter. "
  • CM189191 said:
    JC29856 said:
    I really wasn't ready to run against a monkey that was dropped on his baby monkey head either
    What a very polite way of saying " I under-estimated the stupidity of the average voter. "
    To be fair, stupidity rests on the people that allowed President Trump to win.