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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    mfc2006 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    trump added today in comments about Charlottesville: "I own actually one of the largest wineries in the United States, it is in Charlottesville". 
    Unreal

    It's disclosure.  Could you imagine if the press found that tidbit out beforehand?  They would have a field day.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    JC29856 said:
    trump is a madman. calls out GW and TJ, networks are eating it up, they can't get enough.

    mad I tell ya, mad!
  • wndowpayne
    wndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    Go Beavers said:
    wndowpayne said:
    I personally think all statues should remain..for better or worse it's American history..I can't comprehend people that want to impose their own beliefs to attempt to erase the past...or the need for violence on either side..
    The statue was put put up to impose racist beliefs on others. So factor that in. I said earlier to move it to the American museum of Genocide.  
    I've walked past that statue..didn't get the urge to hate minorities.
    Charlottesville 2013
    Hampton 2016

  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,640
    josevolution said:
    Kelly looking at ground priceless!
    He's  going over his letter of resignation in his head
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    I can't remember if it was read on here or on another form of social media, but these statues belong in museums, not proudly displayed on pedestals. 
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  • wndowpayne
    wndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    ledvedderman said:
    I can't remember if it was read on here or on another form of social media, but these statues belong in museums, not proudly displayed on pedestals. 
    Geez..I don't like the color of that shirt you are wearing..keep it in your house so Im not exposed to it..
    Charlottesville 2013
    Hampton 2016

  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Is anyone that voted for Trump embarrassed yet?
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,670
    wndowpayne said:
    Go Beavers said:
    wndowpayne said:
    I personally think all statues should remain..for better or worse it's American history..I can't comprehend people that want to impose their own beliefs to attempt to erase the past...or the need for violence on either side..
    The statue was put put up to impose racist beliefs on others. So factor that in. I said earlier to move it to the American museum of Genocide.  
    I've walked past that statue..didn't get the urge to hate minorities.
    Which is good. I was referring to the historical significance and what it means to some currently. To me it's a nod to slavery, segregation and racism in a public park. 
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    Maybe an OJ football statue in Brentwood is the equivalent. A black man who killed some white people. Surely no white people would protest to that. I mean, he certainly was a great football player. I can't help if you're only focusing in on the murders and then robbery conviction. 
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  • wndowpayne
    wndowpayne Posts: 1,469
    Go Beavers said:
    wndowpayne said:
    Go Beavers said:
    wndowpayne said:
    I personally think all statues should remain..for better or worse it's American history..I can't comprehend people that want to impose their own beliefs to attempt to erase the past...or the need for violence on either side..
    The statue was put put up to impose racist beliefs on others. So factor that in. I said earlier to move it to the American museum of Genocide.  
    I've walked past that statue..didn't get the urge to hate minorities.
    Which is good. I was referring to the historical significance and what it means to some currently. To me it's a nod to slavery, segregation and racism in a public park. 
    If I were African-American, I may view it differently..but I guess what I am trying to say is everybody has to put up with crap you don't agree with..it's life.
    Charlottesville 2013
    Hampton 2016

  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,670
    Degeneratefk said:
    Is anyone that voted for Trump embarrassed yet?
    The PJ facebook page had a brief and fiery exchange this a.m. with trump voters fully defending him. You can summarize what they say this way: say the Klan is the same as blm, refer to Obama and Clinton, Talk about Hillary and racist Senator Byrd, deny trump's racist and when someone cites references, quickly deny the refernces as fake liberal news. And don't forget that the Democrats are the historical party or racism and slavery! 

    I think the thread is still up if anyone's interested. 
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    wndowpayne said:
    I personally think all statues should remain..for better or worse it's American history..I can't comprehend people that want to impose their own beliefs to attempt to erase the past...or the need for violence on either side..
    It has nothing to do with erasing the past. Put them in museums. Read about them in history books. Watch movies about the Civil War. But erecting statues or monuments to honor the losing side in a treasonous war makes no sense to me. Flying the confederate flag is no different than flying the Nazi flag. Both were defeated, and neither flag needs to be flown. The statues and the flag are symbols of racism and oppression as far as I can tell. Is that a heritage you are proud of? What would make a town want that sort of monument as a centerpiece of their city? "This general fought the good fight for bigotry and lost. We're still proud of him!" Again, not having been exposed to any southern US influences (other than chicken and waffles), I just can't wrap my head around this mindset. It seems completely ass backwards.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,132
    Maybe a statue of Yassir Arafat in Jerusalem, you know, Sadam Hussein large, over by the wailing wall and dome of the rock? Hell, every settlement should have one in its center. Throw in a Hitler or two to remind them of their history.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited August 2017
    I actually think that there will be a gold statue of President Trump on the whitehouse lawn left as his legacy. Behind the fence and untouchable by deplorables.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    wndowpayne said:
    Go Beavers said:
    wndowpayne said:
    Go Beavers said:
    wndowpayne said:
    I personally think all statues should remain..for better or worse it's American history..I can't comprehend people that want to impose their own beliefs to attempt to erase the past...or the need for violence on either side..
    The statue was put put up to impose racist beliefs on others. So factor that in. I said earlier to move it to the American museum of Genocide.  
    I've walked past that statue..didn't get the urge to hate minorities.
    Which is good. I was referring to the historical significance and what it means to some currently. To me it's a nod to slavery, segregation and racism in a public park. 
    If I were African-American, I may view it differently..but I guess what I am trying to say is everybody has to put up with crap you don't agree with..it's life.
    Seriously, why can't black people just learn to deal with the structural, symbolic, and historical racism in the USA? It's life....
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
    I actually think....
    Stopped reading there
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Go Beavers said:
    Degeneratefk said:
    Is anyone that voted for Trump embarrassed yet?
    The PJ facebook page had a brief and fiery exchange this a.m. with trump voters fully defending him. You can summarize what they say this way: say the Klan is the same as blm, refer to Obama and Clinton, Talk about Hillary and racist Senator Byrd, deny trump's racist and when someone cites references, quickly deny the refernces as fake liberal news. And don't forget that the Democrats are the historical party or racism and slavery! 

    I think the thread is still up if anyone's interested. 

    Sorry, I'm on my learjet right now and I can't get strong wifi. It only allowed me to skim your post.  Can you repeat.
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,670
    wndowpayne said:
    Go Beavers said:
    wndowpayne said:
    Go Beavers said:
    wndowpayne said:
    I personally think all statues should remain..for better or worse it's American history..I can't comprehend people that want to impose their own beliefs to attempt to erase the past...or the need for violence on either side..
    The statue was put put up to impose racist beliefs on others. So factor that in. I said earlier to move it to the American museum of Genocide.  
    I've walked past that statue..didn't get the urge to hate minorities.
    Which is good. I was referring to the historical significance and what it means to some currently. To me it's a nod to slavery, segregation and racism in a public park. 
    If I were African-American, I may view it differently..but I guess what I am trying to say is everybody has to put up with crap you don't agree with..it's life.
    Said the white guy. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,193
    edited August 2017
    wndowpayne said:
    Go Beavers said:
    wndowpayne said:
    Go Beavers said:
    wndowpayne said:
    I personally think all statues should remain..for better or worse it's American history..I can't comprehend people that want to impose their own beliefs to attempt to erase the past...or the need for violence on either side..
    The statue was put put up to impose racist beliefs on others. So factor that in. I said earlier to move it to the American museum of Genocide.  
    I've walked past that statue..didn't get the urge to hate minorities.
    Which is good. I was referring to the historical significance and what it means to some currently. To me it's a nod to slavery, segregation and racism in a public park. 
    If I were African-American, I may view it differently..but I guess what I am trying to say is everybody has to put up with crap you don't agree with..it's life.
    I m not sure where you have visited but have you seen any German statues in France?
    arvn statues in Vietnam?
    moorish statues in Spain?
    german statues in Russia? 

    This could be the only time in history where the losing side can erect statues and fly their battle flag in the same country they lost.  I am quite the historian, no one is saying
     to erase history but rather put each statue in a museum where they belong, not a public place for all to see. 

    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,670
    mcgruff10 said:
    wndowpayne said:
    Go Beavers said:
    wndowpayne said:
    Go Beavers said:
    wndowpayne said:
    I personally think all statues should remain..for better or worse it's American history..I can't comprehend people that want to impose their own beliefs to attempt to erase the past...or the need for violence on either side..
    The statue was put put up to impose racist beliefs on others. So factor that in. I said earlier to move it to the American museum of Genocide.  
    I've walked past that statue..didn't get the urge to hate minorities.
    Which is good. I was referring to the historical significance and what it means to some currently. To me it's a nod to slavery, segregation and racism in a public park. 
    If I were African-American, I may view it differently..but I guess what I am trying to say is everybody has to put up with crap you don't agree with..it's life.
    I m not sure where you have visited but have you seen any German statues in France?
    arvn statues in Vietnam?
    moorish statues in Spain?
    german statues in Russia? 

    This could be the only time in history where the losing side can erect statues and fly their battle flag in the same country they lost.  I am quite the historian, no is saying to erase history but put them in a museum where they belong, not a public place for all to see. 

    Not only that, but they were traitors that people think should be admired. 


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