Donald Trump

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

People are just making fun of it.

I know. but a distraction is still a distraction. 

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

People are just making fun of it.

I know. but a distraction is still a distraction. 

I agree that some of criticism directed towards him is a wasteful distraction, such as the hair and the hands and the orange skin and how his suits fit and shit like that. The golf cart thing has a tiny more substance just because it reflects on his general attitude, and people always pick up on stuff like that (although I also agree that if it's at his own golf course then it means nothing). All these little things about his actual behaviour culminate into something quite meaningful at the end of the day, because it is a constant reminder of the POTUS's rancid personality, his inability to lead, to consider others, to consider his own actions compared to others, and often his mental stability. So that's kind of a big deal and probably should remain a topic of conversation (and there are more important things still in the same kind of context but more important - things like him getting a folder with only good things about him in it twice a day, and him giving a political speech to the Boy Scouts, etc etc - that has very sinister connotations, and I don't see it just as a joke at all). The problem is that the media, and therefore many people, often fail to ALSO address a lot of other things.

HughFreakingDillon said:

oftenreading said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PJ_Soul said:

People are just making fun of it.

I know. but a distraction is still a distraction. 

A distraction is a heck of a lot difference than outrage. 

And honestly, why shouldn't people make fun of it here? 

I said feigning outrage. 

go ahead and make fun all you want. I'm just saying it muddies what's important. 

HughFreakingDillon said:

MayDay10 said:

I would also argue and say that anti-Obama folks focused on nothing but nonsense.  Shit that wasn't even factual, and it worked in their favor.

I think a president who has severe character/personality flaws IS a pretty big issue in of itself.  Never mind the anti-intellectualism or lack of respect for the position and decorum.   

I pay close attention to the issues as well.  I'm not falling asleep at some wheel, forgetting to vote every chance.

your first point is actually part of what I've been saying all along. it's not ok to do now that shoe is on the other foot.  

my other point was, yes, in light of all of his other character flaws, he seems like a total dick. but this was his own golf course. how I act on my own property does not in any way show my character like how I act on someone else's. 

it's his course. he can do as he wishes, can he not? I don't see how this specific incident shows any character flaw, even though we know he has many. 

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

MayDay10 said:

I would also argue and say that anti-Obama folks focused on nothing but nonsense.  Shit that wasn't even factual, and it worked in their favor.

I think a president who has severe character/personality flaws IS a pretty big issue in of itself.  Never mind the anti-intellectualism or lack of respect for the position and decorum.   

I pay close attention to the issues as well.  I'm not falling asleep at some wheel, forgetting to vote every chance.

your first point is actually part of what I've been saying all along. it's not ok to do now that shoe is on the other foot.  

my other point was, yes, in light of all of his other character flaws, he seems like a total dick. but this was his own golf course. how I act on my own property does not in any way show my character like how I act on someone else's. 

it's his course. he can do as he wishes, can he not? I don't see how this specific incident shows any character flaw, even though we know he has many. 

Legally, he can.  But others come on teh course and pay to use it.  It's not like he's pissing on a toilet seat only he uses.  It's a dick move for anyone to drive on a green because it damages the green and affects the way the ball rolls, thereby affecting your game.  If you want to pursue the point, it shows a total disregard for anyone but himself.  And THAT is a character flaw we all see in him.  

this is what i had asked before and no one answered. if other people are using the course other than himself and his cronies, then fine. it is a dick move. 

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

MayDay10 said:

I would also argue and say that anti-Obama folks focused on nothing but nonsense.  Shit that wasn't even factual, and it worked in their favor.

I think a president who has severe character/personality flaws IS a pretty big issue in of itself.  Never mind the anti-intellectualism or lack of respect for the position and decorum.   

I pay close attention to the issues as well.  I'm not falling asleep at some wheel, forgetting to vote every chance.

your first point is actually part of what I've been saying all along. it's not ok to do now that shoe is on the other foot.  

my other point was, yes, in light of all of his other character flaws, he seems like a total dick. but this was his own golf course. how I act on my own property does not in any way show my character like how I act on someone else's. 

it's his course. he can do as he wishes, can he not? I don't see how this specific incident shows any character flaw, even though we know he has many. 

Legally, he can.  But others come on teh course and pay to use it.  It's not like he's pissing on a toilet seat only he uses.  It's a dick move for anyone to drive on a green because it damages the green and affects the way the ball rolls, thereby affecting your game.  If you want to pursue the point, it shows a total disregard for anyone but himself.  And THAT is a character flaw we all see in him.  

this is what i had asked before and no one answered. if other people are using the course other than himself and his cronies, then fine. it is a dick move.