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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    It's the whiteness of the sport that appeals to him.
    you sure it's not the # of NHL'ers from Russia Russia Russia?
  • g under pg under p Posts: 18,190
    JC29856 said:
    It's the whiteness of the sport that appeals to him.
    you sure it's not the # of NHL'ers from Russia Russia Russia?
    The NFL thing is just another manufactured distraction, Trump is getting pretty good at it.

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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    why isn't this shithead dealing with puerto rico? instead he's fucking golfing and picking fights with professional athletes. what kind of fucking bizarro world do we live in that this is the president of the united states of america?
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  • ikiTikiT Posts: 11,055


    John Basset was a Canadian professional tennis player and owner of the USFL's Tampa Bay Bandits. He died in 1986, shortly after the league folded (much at the hands of one Donald J. Trump). Sensing a pattern of behavior here.
    he is stupid.
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  • calling african americans 'sons of bitches' ON THE FUCKING RECORD. not behind closed doors. not whispered to another racist friend on the golf course. IN A SPEECH TO 7500 PEOPLE, BEING VIDEOTAPED AND RELEASED. 

    what gets me the most is his brain dead supporters still support this sack of shit. unbelievable. 
    I disagree with this.  No way he directed it towards the African Americans solely.  I knew people would start twisting it this way.

    He is an idiot for saying what he did though.  This is going to drive a wedge between the country even more now.
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    An island full of Americans without power and water and Trump is tweeting about the NFL.
    Idiot.
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  • * Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error. 
    I am a Republican voter.  Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread.  I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs.  I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.  
    I would never join this debate on this forum.  Your opinion is already developed... 

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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576


    * Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error. 
    I am a Republican voter.  Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread.  I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs.  I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.  
    I would never join this debate on this forum.  Your opinion is already developed... 

    This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

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  • rgambs said:


    * Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error. 
    I am a Republican voter.  Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread.  I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs.  I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.  
    I would never join this debate on this forum.  Your opinion is already developed... 

    This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

    Wrong.  But again, my opinions are discounted before having heard them.  
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    edited September 2017

    rgambs said:


    * Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error. 
    I am a Republican voter.  Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread.  I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs.  I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.  
    I would never join this debate on this forum.  Your opinion is already developed... 

    This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

    Tough to defend the indefensible.  It is an easy cop out.

    'I could debate, but your opinion is made up'

    Yeah, that's how it works.  /s

    When ideology is so strong and so stubborn you can't admit right from wrong, black from white,up from down.  I guess that is how you dodge debate....and responsibility.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Smellyman said:

    rgambs said:


    * Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error. 
    I am a Republican voter.  Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread.  I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs.  I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.  
    I would never join this debate on this forum.  Your opinion is already developed... 

    This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

    Tough to defend the indefensible.  It is an easy cop out.

    'I could debate, but your opinion is made up'

    Yeah, that's how it works.  /s

    When ideology is so strong and so stubborn you can't admit right from wrong, black from white,up from down.  I guess that is how you dodge debate....and responsibility.
    yeah come here to debate where some can't differentiate between a statement and a question?
  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 5,086
    rgambs said:


    * Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error. 
    I am a Republican voter.  Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread.  I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs.  I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.  
    I would never join this debate on this forum.  Your opinion is already developed... 

    This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

    There are plenty of places to find out what they are thinking.  They run the internet to about the same degree that they run the country (totally).  If I were a Trump supporter, I would not come here, either.  Go anywhere and you'll find that they like him for the same reasons we don't: he's unqualified, unpresidential, and "tells it like it is."  They eat that shit up. This is the new model for president.  I am frightened at the prospects for 2024.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    JC29856 said:
    Smellyman said:

    rgambs said:


    * Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error. 
    I am a Republican voter.  Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread.  I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs.  I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.  
    I would never join this debate on this forum.  Your opinion is already developed... 

    This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

    Tough to defend the indefensible.  It is an easy cop out.

    'I could debate, but your opinion is made up'

    Yeah, that's how it works.  /s

    When ideology is so strong and so stubborn you can't admit right from wrong, black from white,up from down.  I guess that is how you dodge debate....and responsibility.
    yeah come here to debate where some can't differentiate between a statement and a question?
    Why debate someone who asks open ended questions and never clarifies what they were trying to say to begin with? 
    That's not debate, that's a waste of time.
    If you have something to say, say it.

    Don't ask an asinine question like "why did Kaepernick kneel" in order to serve some point that you'll never get to.
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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    rgambs said:


    * Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error. 
    I am a Republican voter.  Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread.  I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs.  I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.  
    I would never join this debate on this forum.  Your opinion is already developed... 

    This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

    Wrong.  But again, my opinions are discounted before having heard them.  
    Does that even make sense?
    I don't think so.
    If your prerequisite for debate is a blank mind without opinions of it's own, then debate will surely never happen.

    If you feel like your opinion is strong and credible, why not give it and defend it?
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,516
    rgambs said:


    * Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error. 
    I am a Republican voter.  Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread.  I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs.  I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.  
    I would never join this debate on this forum.  Your opinion is already developed... 

    This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

    Wrong.  But again, my opinions are discounted before having heard them.  
    you are a republican voter....

    you stand for a man and party who used the influence of a foreign enemy to win the election
    you stand for a man who stood at the UN and threatened to destroy another country
    you stand for a man who admits to sexual assault
    you stand for a man who repeatedly screwed vendors out of their rightful payments after completing work for him.
    you stand for a man who thinks is own daughter is hot
    you stand for a man who lies on a daily basis
    you stand for a man and party that wants to throw out of the country productive members of the country who came here as children
    you stand for a man and party that wants to limit healthcare to some Americans because the previous President was a black man
    you stand for a man and party whose party is on the wrong side (per percentages of american's) of almost every social issue today (gay marriage, legalized pot, health care, etc.)
    you stand for a man and party who wants to cut corporate taxes as the gap in wages from top level execs to workers has never been greater

    so if we got you wrong about this and more tell us where you differ from the above.
  • I saw a comment on an instagram post yesterday regarding the NFL players kneeling in protest.  The woman said something to the effect of "These idiots are only dividing the country even further. This kind of division didn't exist 8 years ago."  A nice passive way to blame division on Obama.  My reply: "Nor did it exist 8 months ago."


  • * Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error. 
    I am a Republican voter.  Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread.  I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs.  I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.  
    I would never join this debate on this forum.  Your opinion is already developed... 


    When you say you are a Republican voter... you mean to say you voted for Donald Trump to be your president. Am I correct there?

    Are you happy with the man you put in office? Which of his campaign promises appealed to you the most? Do you feel he is making America great again?
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  • * Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error. 
    I am a Republican voter.  Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread.  I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs.  I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.  
    I would never join this debate on this forum.  Your opinion is already developed... 

    And so is yours. What's wrong with having an opinion developed? Anyone with any idea of what's going on has an opinion developed.

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  • calling african americans 'sons of bitches' ON THE FUCKING RECORD. not behind closed doors. not whispered to another racist friend on the golf course. IN A SPEECH TO 7500 PEOPLE, BEING VIDEOTAPED AND RELEASED. 

    what gets me the most is his brain dead supporters still support this sack of shit. unbelievable. 
    I disagree with this.  No way he directed it towards the African Americans solely.  I knew people would start twisting it this way.

    He is an idiot for saying what he did though.  This is going to drive a wedge between the country even more now.
    I don't believe it's twisting. he attacks football players for peacefully protesting (all of which, at that point, had been black men). yet, he refuses to denounce white supremacists and defends their racist views even when it ends in a white women getting murdered. 

    I'm not one to bring race into a discussion lightly. But in this instance, I can't see how one could not deduce that this is about race. 
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  • JC29856 said:
    why isn't this shithead dealing with puerto rico? instead he's fucking golfing and picking fights with professional athletes. what kind of fucking bizarro world do we live in that this is the president of the united states of america?
    11 ships arrived in PR Sat morning with almost 2M gallons of water, food, 10s of thousands of cots and generators.
    so? no president is making that call. I'm talking about being a leader, telling the people the country is with them, not spending his time tweeting about football. 
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  • JC29856 said:
    Smellyman said:

    rgambs said:


    * Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error. 
    I am a Republican voter.  Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread.  I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs.  I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.  
    I would never join this debate on this forum.  Your opinion is already developed... 

    This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

    Tough to defend the indefensible.  It is an easy cop out.

    'I could debate, but your opinion is made up'

    Yeah, that's how it works.  /s

    When ideology is so strong and so stubborn you can't admit right from wrong, black from white,up from down.  I guess that is how you dodge debate....and responsibility.
    yeah come here to debate where some can't differentiate between a statement and a question?
    good god, let it go. 
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  • rgambs said:


    * Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error. 
    I am a Republican voter.  Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread.  I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs.  I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.  
    I would never join this debate on this forum.  Your opinion is already developed... 

    This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

    Wrong.  But again, my opinions are discounted before having heard them.  
    Let's hear them.  I'm a roast, baste me.
  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Posts: 10,744
    rgambs said:


    * Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error. 
    I am a Republican voter.  Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread.  I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs.  I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.  
    I would never join this debate on this forum.  Your opinion is already developed... 

    This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

    Wrong.  But again, my opinions are discounted before having heard them.  
    Let's hear them.  I'm a roast, baste me.
    I'd  like to hear them as well.
    I'm interested in having a voter/supporter of his come on here and defend him and his words and behaviors in a clear, concise, and cogent manner. 
    Not as a troll
  • JC29856 said:
    Smellyman said:

    rgambs said:


    * Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error. 
    I am a Republican voter.  Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread.  I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs.  I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.  
    I would never join this debate on this forum.  Your opinion is already developed... 

    This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

    Tough to defend the indefensible.  It is an easy cop out.

    'I could debate, but your opinion is made up'

    Yeah, that's how it works.  /s

    When ideology is so strong and so stubborn you can't admit right from wrong, black from white,up from down.  I guess that is how you dodge debate....and responsibility.
    yeah come here to debate where some can't differentiate between a statement and a question?

    Possibly if you don't end a statement with a question mark, it will go better for you.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:
    Smellyman said:

    rgambs said:


    * Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error. 
    I am a Republican voter.  Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread.  I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs.  I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.  
    I would never join this debate on this forum.  Your opinion is already developed... 

    This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

    Tough to defend the indefensible.  It is an easy cop out.

    'I could debate, but your opinion is made up'

    Yeah, that's how it works.  /s

    When ideology is so strong and so stubborn you can't admit right from wrong, black from white,up from down.  I guess that is how you dodge debate....and responsibility.
    yeah come here to debate where some can't differentiate between a statement and a question?

    Possibly if you don't end a statement with a question mark, it will go better for you.
    I'm glad you noticed! 
  • rgambs said:


    * Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error. 
    I am a Republican voter.  Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread.  I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs.  I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.  
    I would never join this debate on this forum.  Your opinion is already developed... 

    This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

    Wrong.  But again, my opinions are discounted before having heard them.  
    Let's hear them.  I'm a roast, baste me.
    I'd  like to hear them as well.
    I'm interested in having a voter/supporter of his come on here and defend him and his words and behaviors in a clear, concise, and cogent manner. 
    Not as a troll
    I should have been more clear when putting myself out here.  I stated I am a republican voter.  I'm not the guy that defends Trump's every move.  Those are the people I think you're looking for.  I'm not that person.  So I'm not going to defend a lot of what is taking place.  I can't, I won't.  What has transpired is far from my hopes of a Trump presidency. Outside of my 401(k) growth, not a whole lot has been accomplished that I can be proud of.  I did NOT vote for Trump in the primaries.  I did not think he was a serious candidate.  

    I won't go line by line how I feel about all the issues, but I still support much of the republican agenda.  Specifically replacement of the ACA, immigration reform, social program and welfare stability (not growth), among others.  Given my feelings on the issues, I would not have voted democrat in the 2016 election.  





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  • rgambs said:


    * Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error. 
    I am a Republican voter.  Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread.  I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs.  I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.  
    I would never join this debate on this forum.  Your opinion is already developed... 

    This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

    Wrong.  But again, my opinions are discounted before having heard them.  
    Let's hear them.  I'm a roast, baste me.
    I'd  like to hear them as well.
    I'm interested in having a voter/supporter of his come on here and defend him and his words and behaviors in a clear, concise, and cogent manner. 
    Not as a troll
    I should have been more clear when putting myself out here.  I stated I am a republican voter.  I'm not the guy that defends Trump's every move.  Those are the people I think you're looking for.  I'm not that person.  So I'm not going to defend a lot of what is taking place.  I can't, I won't.  What has transpired is far from my hopes of a Trump presidency. Outside of my 401(k) growth, not a whole lot has been accomplished that I can be proud of.  I did NOT vote for Trump in the primaries.  I did not think he was a serious candidate.  

    I won't go line by line how I feel about all the issues, but I still support much of the republican agenda.  Specifically replacement of the ACA, immigration reform, social program and welfare stability (not growth), among others.  Given my feelings on the issues, I would not have voted democrat in the 2016 election.  





    Thanks for this reply. 

    So, you're saying that, given what you know now, you still wouldn't have voted democrat in the last election. Would you have voted for trump, or someone else, or not voted?
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,780
    rgambs said:


    * Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error. 
    I am a Republican voter.  Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread.  I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs.  I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.  
    I would never join this debate on this forum.  Your opinion is already developed... 

    This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

    Wrong.  But again, my opinions are discounted before having heard them.  
    Well, it's not like this is the Breitbart forum ;). You may get some very lively responses and be in the minority, but that could be any thread in the AMT. I'm pretty sure none of us on here 100% agree on any topic. I don't agree with everything said in any forum topic and will state my position and view even though it may not be popular or accepted. I don't speak my opinions with the intent of making someone else agree with me, but I do hope it offers a different perspective that maybe wasn't considered. I am actually more interested in the response I get regarding my opinion or line of thinking because it exposes it to critical review, which benefits everyone involved.


    It's a hopeless situation...
  • rgambs said:


    * Do any Trump supporters even come to this thread anymore? It's become a piling on thread. I'm okay with it, but I wish those fools would appear every now and detail their mindset so we can at least gauge people's commitment to stupidity or their learning process as they acknowledge their error. 
    I am a Republican voter.  Why would I appear here and participate in this conversation if you believe I'm a "fool" before you've heard me out? This is the problem of this thread.  I live in a strong conservative community where many share the same beliefs.  I come here to lurk and read the views of those that don't think like me.  
    I would never join this debate on this forum.  Your opinion is already developed... 

    This sounds to me like a euphemistic expression of a lack of confidence in the strength of your arguments.

    Wrong.  But again, my opinions are discounted before having heard them.  
    Let's hear them.  I'm a roast, baste me.
    I'd  like to hear them as well.
    I'm interested in having a voter/supporter of his come on here and defend him and his words and behaviors in a clear, concise, and cogent manner. 
    Not as a troll
    I should have been more clear when putting myself out here.  I stated I am a republican voter.  I'm not the guy that defends Trump's every move.  Those are the people I think you're looking for.  I'm not that person.  So I'm not going to defend a lot of what is taking place.  I can't, I won't.  What has transpired is far from my hopes of a Trump presidency. Outside of my 401(k) growth, not a whole lot has been accomplished that I can be proud of.  I did NOT vote for Trump in the primaries.  I did not think he was a serious candidate.  

    I won't go line by line how I feel about all the issues, but I still support much of the republican agenda.  Specifically replacement of the ACA, immigration reform, social program and welfare stability (not growth), among others.  Given my feelings on the issues, I would not have voted democrat in the 2016 election.  





    the thing is, many democrats also support many of those agendas, but in a sensible, bipartisan manner. Obama himself has said ACA needs improvement. everyone knows immigration reform is needed. not this "let's gut all of Obama's policies no matter the cost" that Trump is trying to bash through. it's clear all he cares about is dismantling Obama's legacy, and calling that his own. he is a brutal failure already, and it's not going to get better. 
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