Good point, easy no!

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

^^^
Echoed to the above.
At some point the flat earthers and bible thumpers need not be given a platform to speak. 

I'm with you there, but you have to realise that would be the immediate death of conservatism.

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

rgambs said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

^^^
Echoed to the above.
At some point the flat earthers and bible thumpers need not be given a platform to speak. 

I'm with you there, but you have to realise that would be the immediate death of conservatism.

Extreme conservatism? and I'll meet you half way if you agree

If flat earthers and Bible nuts lost the right to vote, conservatism would be dead.  At the first election.
Not that all conservatives are nuts, it's just there aren't enough to win anything without the nuts on your side.

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

^^^

And that is the worst part of being a conservative, the nuts you don't want.

It's the worst part about being a liberal too.

Yeah.  We're the nuts.

American's are as patriotic as you can get and that is admirable,our nightly news here in Australia certainly paints an image of a place that is far from the best country in the world,drugs ,violence,unemployment,political unease ,homelessness are forever the story on any given night
Melbourne Australia was voted most liveable city two year's running or two out of three just recently but the issues of major concern listed above in America are probably ten fold here in Australia especially Melbourne as per capita,I have never been to America but one day would love to but if one was to focus on your what our news displays I think it would keep people away
Australian image I am sure sells our country to be the place to live but I assure you it has its major issues but mostly great people ,I am sure it's the same in the U.S 
They certainly have the best music/ bands on the planet

pljam said:

American's are as patriotic as you can get and that is admirable,our nightly news here in Australia certainly paints an image of a place that is far from the best country in the world,drugs ,violence,unemployment,political unease ,homelessness are forever the story on any given night
Melbourne Australia was voted most liveable city two year's running or two out of three just recently but the issues of major concern listed above in America are probably ten fold here in Australia especially Melbourne as per capita,I have never been to America but one day would love to but if one was to focus on your what our news displays I think it would keep people away
Australian image I am sure sells our country to be the place to live but I assure you it has its major issues but mostly great people ,I am sure it's the same in the U.S 
They certainly have the best music/ bands on the planet

I'm pretty sure you'll find those problems in most developed countries these days.  They may vary in severity but all the same issues are there.  I think the big problem with the United States is that for the last century we have tried to police the entire globe under the guise of ending tyranny and spreading freedom.  Has it been necessary? At times, I'd say yes (World War II, e.g.) but mostly we should probably just keep our nose out of other peoples' & countries' business.  It's all about resources.  Who has what we want and how are we gonna take it from them so we can continue being the mighty eagle.

We also elected the biggest fucking idiot on the planet to run our country, so that should tell you how well we're doing in education.

And by the way, Aussies have some great musicians/bands as well!  My collections of Australian artists is constantly expanding.

No, we just dropped to 199th. Right ahead of Syria and Nicaragua. 

OP, maybe time to edit your thread heading?  We've already determined America is not a country.

The U.S. is an enigma.  It's the best of places and the worst of places.  You can't really put a single label on if... even if inclined to do so.  As soon as you try to define it, the definition falls apart or is argued over infinitely.  And even if you could pin it down to one thing, it changes and becomes something else.  Voila!