Obamacare is a mess

HughFreakingDillon · March 2017

rssesq said:

unsung said:
Not teachers.
5 hours a day
4.1 days a week
9 months outa the year
and still get a yearly salary

they deserve the most?

jesus h christ. if you truly believe that teachers only work the hours that the kids are in the class, you don't have a clue.

I don't know if it's the same in the US, but in Canada teachers don't get a yearly salary. they get paid for the months they work. the summer months is unemployment, some get a summer job.

mace1229 · March 2017

Would like to know which school is only open 4.1 days a week?
Or are you calculating in all those holidays that most other people get too?

ponytd · March 2017

HughFreakingDillon said:

rssesq said:

unsung said:
Not teachers.
5 hours a day
4.1 days a week
9 months outa the year
and still get a yearly salary

they deserve the most?

jesus h christ. if you truly believe that teachers only work the hours that the kids are in the class, you don't have a clue.

I don't know if it's the same in the US, but in Canada teachers don't get a yearly salary. they get paid for the months they work. the summer months is unemployment, some get a summer job.

Yeah, they don't get off near as much as the kids. Plus, they're there before kids get there and after they leave. Here they can choose to have their salary split up for the whole year or for the 9.5 month school year. Plus teachers have to put up with other peoples kids all day, every day. That's they worst part of teaching I'd think lol

HughFreakingDillon · March 2017

ponytd said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

rssesq said:

unsung said:
Not teachers.
5 hours a day
4.1 days a week
9 months outa the year
and still get a yearly salary

they deserve the most?

jesus h christ. if you truly believe that teachers only work the hours that the kids are in the class, you don't have a clue.

I don't know if it's the same in the US, but in Canada teachers don't get a yearly salary. they get paid for the months they work. the summer months is unemployment, some get a summer job.
Yeah, they don't get off near as much as the kids. Plus, they're there before kids get there and after they leave. Here they can choose to have their salary split up for the whole year or for the 9.5 month school year. Plus teachers have to put up with other peoples kids all day, every day. That's they worst part of teaching I'd think lol

I feel bad for my oldest daughter's teacher. I asked him why she rarely gets homework (grade 5, in grade 4 she had homework nearly every day). he said with the size of his class (24), and with the problematic students he has, he simply does not have time. He says he feels terrible that he doesn't get to spend much time with my daughter, as she is one of the best students, but he still wishes he could have one on one time with her, but he has to do that with so many of the other problem kids that he simple runs out of time.

so even if he does only spend 6 hours a day in the class, it's still a much tougher day than my 8 hour stress-free day.

mfc2006 · March 2017

This seems fair to me. Thoughts?

https://www.change.org/p/bernie-sanders-remove-free-healthcare-for-politicians-and-their-families

HesCalledDyer · March 2017

ponytd said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

rssesq said:

unsung said:
Not teachers.
5 hours a day
4.1 days a week
9 months outa the year
and still get a yearly salary

they deserve the most?

jesus h christ. if you truly believe that teachers only work the hours that the kids are in the class, you don't have a clue.

I don't know if it's the same in the US, but in Canada teachers don't get a yearly salary. they get paid for the months they work. the summer months is unemployment, some get a summer job.
Yeah, they don't get off near as much as the kids. Plus, they're there before kids get there and after they leave. Here they can choose to have their salary split up for the whole year or for the 9.5 month school year. Plus teachers have to put up with other peoples kids all day, every day. That's they worst part of teaching I'd think lol

Not to mention the take home work. Grading tests, homework, papers, lesson planning, reporting, etc. My sister is a high school English teacher. She works about 10 hours a day Monday thru Friday and often has work to do on the weekends.

rssesq · March 2017

Holidayz. they are in school like 170 outta 365 days a year kid. I'm Italian and I work on Columbus day. LOL

mace1229 said:
Would like to know which school is only open 4.1 days a week?
Or are you calculating in all those holidays that most other people get too?

Go Beavers · March 2017

There seems to be a strong correlation with people who are low on facts and teacher bashing.

mace1229 · March 2017

rssesq said:
Holidayz. they are in school like 170 outta 365 days a year kid. I'm Italian and I work on Columbus day. LOL
mace1229 said:
Would like to know which school is only open 4.1 days a week?
Or are you calculating in all those holidays that most other people get too?

You said 4.1 days 9 months out of the year. That math is wrong.
So your 4.1 is a year average, taking into consideration they work 9 months.
Most teachers have 185ish days, not 170.
Most will work an average 9-10 hours on those days, not the 5 hours you suggested.

Most jobs get vacation/sick days and holidays off that can total anywhere from 4-6 weeks. Teachers get a little extra vacation, but don't get to chose when to take it. And work an extra 1-2 hours a day the rest of the year.

If they worked 4 days a week 9 months out of the year, for 5 hours a day as people who have no idea like to claim, that would be the most amazing job ever. But that is far from reality.

So lets do the math here. A typical public employee will work about 46 weeks out of the year (accounting for holidays and sick leave) at 8 hours a day. That's 1840 hours. And when that meeting runs an hour late, thats time and a half so they dont complain about over time. A teacher will work 185 days a year at 10 hours a day, that's 1850 hours. That doesn't take into account back to school night, parent conferences, open house, chaperoning dances/events, and other events they are "highly encouraged" to attend. Lets not forget that the admin and parents expect free tutoring from teachers as well, so they don't have to pay an outside tutor $50/hr.

I think you convinced, they have it too easy....

unsung · March 2017

HughFreakingDillon said:
sure. homeschool everyone on the bible.

Give them raises when they aren't in a union that overwhelmingly supports Democrats. They have an agenda to see that the students do the same, it ensures their survival.

rssesq · March 2017

unsung said:

HughFreakingDillon said:
sure. homeschool everyone on the bible.
Give them raises when they aren't in a union that overwhelmingly supports Democrats. They have an agenda to see that the students do the same, it ensures their survival.

and all Magnet and Charter schools, no matter how well the students do, should be immediately closed lest we lose our monopoly. How dare they try to touch our thing/cosa nostra

jeffbr · March 2017

mace1229 said:

rssesq said:
Holidayz. they are in school like 170 outta 365 days a year kid. I'm Italian and I work on Columbus day. LOL
mace1229 said:
Would like to know which school is only open 4.1 days a week?
Or are you calculating in all those holidays that most other people get too?

You said 4.1 days 9 months out of the year. That math is wrong.
So your 4.1 is a year average, taking into consideration they work 9 months.
Most teachers have 185ish days, not 170.
Most will work an average 9-10 hours on those days, not the 5 hours you suggested.

Most jobs get vacation/sick days and holidays off that can total anywhere from 4-6 weeks. Teachers get a little extra vacation, but don't get to chose when to take it. And work an extra 1-2 hours a day the rest of the year.

If they worked 4 days a week 9 months out of the year, for 5 hours a day as people who have no idea like to claim, that would be the most amazing job ever. But that is far from reality.

So lets do the math here. A typical public employee will work about 46 weeks out of the year (accounting for holidays and sick leave) at 8 hours a day. That's 1840 hours. And when that meeting runs an hour late, thats time and a half so they dont complain about over time. A teacher will work 185 days a year at 10 hours a day, that's 1850 hours. That doesn't take into account back to school night, parent conferences, open house, chaperoning dances/events, and other events they are "highly encouraged" to attend. Lets not forget that the admin and parents expect free tutoring from teachers as well, so they don't have to pay an outside tutor $50/hr.

I think you convinced, they have it too easy....

Good post, Mace. Infuriating that people need to have this explained to them every few months. I remember a thread not all that long ago that went 12 pages with ignorant comments about teachers and the profession. I applaud your patience.
http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/258778/something-about-teachers-pay/

CM189191 · March 2017

rssesq said:

unsung said:
Not teachers.
5 hours a day
4.1 days a week
9 months outa the year
and still get a yearly salary

they deserve the most?

Solution: year-round schooling!

rssesq · March 2017

CM189191 said:

rssesq said:

unsung said:
Not teachers.
5 hours a day
4.1 days a week
9 months outa the year
and still get a yearly salary

they deserve the most?
Solution: year-round schooling!

WORD! but I think the union aint havin it

HughFreakingDillon · March 2017

unsung said:

HughFreakingDillon said:
sure. homeschool everyone on the bible.
Give them raises when they aren't in a union that overwhelmingly supports Democrats. They have an agenda to see that the students do the same, it ensures their survival.

give me a break.

rgambs · March 2017

unsung said:

HughFreakingDillon said:
sure. homeschool everyone on the bible.
Give them raises when they aren't in a union that overwhelmingly supports Democrats. They have an agenda to see that the students do the same, it ensures their survival.

The overlords will never allow it!

unsung · March 2017

Aww, she has come so far from the days of "we have to pass the bill to know what's in the bill". How do leftists get so smart all of a sudden? Hmmm.

unsung · March 2017

HughFreakingDillon said:

unsung said:

HughFreakingDillon said:
sure. homeschool everyone on the bible.
Give them raises when they aren't in a union that overwhelmingly supports Democrats. They have an agenda to see that the students do the same, it ensures their survival.
give me a break.

Public schools are government indoctrination centers.

Halifax2TheMax · March 2017

unsung said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

unsung said:

HughFreakingDillon said:
sure. homeschool everyone on the bible.
Give them raises when they aren't in a union that overwhelmingly supports Democrats. They have an agenda to see that the students do the same, it ensures their survival.
give me a break.
Public schools are government indoctrination centers.

Do you ever come out of your bunker?

unsung · March 2017

Halifax2TheMax said:

unsung said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

unsung said:

HughFreakingDillon said:
sure. homeschool everyone on the bible.
Give them raises when they aren't in a union that overwhelmingly supports Democrats. They have an agenda to see that the students do the same, it ensures their survival.
give me a break.
Public schools are government indoctrination centers.
Do you ever come out of your bunker?

Do you ever think for yourself?

Obamacare is a mess

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