Obamacare is a mess

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,024
    mace1229 said:

    I also work in government (education). It has gone up almost every year, but this year is probably the worst.
    There were several replies that claimed they get the same speech from HR every year about increases, and this is nothing new.
    Well here's a little math for you.
    For those that stated this is normal, that is not true. If you had a $5 copay 20 years ago and it went up 50% every year, you'd be paying $16,000 20 years later.
    A $20 copay that goes up 50% every year would be $66,000 20 years later.
    So saying a 50% increase is normal and on par with American health insurance is not even close.
    A $100 deductible that triples every year (as mine did) would be $348 billion 20 years later.
    this is normal?

    Drop your insurance, save the money, invest in the stock market and stay healthy. Problem solved.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
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    rssesq said:
    They can afford it?

    I know because I've seen their TAX RETURNS
  • rssesqrssesq Posts: 3,299
    $225,000 per year 8 years =
    $15,000 per day vaca =
    "Organizer" = $15,000 a year
  • rssesqrssesq Posts: 3,299
    oh that's rich
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,086
    rssesq said:

    $225,000 per year 8 years =
    $15,000 per day vaca =
    "Organizer" = $15,000 a year

    Bigots complaining about Obama = priceless
  • rssesqrssesq Posts: 3,299
    this bigot voted for him twice
  • rssesqrssesq Posts: 3,299
    Richard --

    This morning, Michelle and I awoke to some surprising and humbling news. At 6 a.m., we received word that I'd been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009.

    To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who've been honored by this prize -- men and women who've inspired me and inspired the entire world through their courageous pursuit of peace.

    But I also know that throughout history the Nobel Peace Prize has not just been used to honor specific achievement; it's also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes.

    That is why I've said that I will accept this award as a call to action, a call for all nations and all peoples to confront the common challenges of the 21st century. These challenges won't all be met during my presidency, or even my lifetime. But I know these challenges can be met so long as it's recognized that they will not be met by one person or one nation alone.

    This award -- and the call to action that comes with it -- does not belong simply to me or my administration; it belongs to all people around the world who have fought for justice and for peace. And most of all, it belongs to you, the men and women of America, who have dared to hope and have worked so hard to make our world a little better.

    So today we humbly recommit to the important work that we've begun together. I'm grateful that you've stood with me thus far, and I'm honored to continue our vital work in the years to come.

    Thank you,

    President Barack Obama

    Do you have one of these ?
  • rssesqrssesq Posts: 3,299
    Richard,

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    Rufus

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  • rssesqrssesq Posts: 3,299
    rufus is my boy!
  • rssesqrssesq Posts: 3,299
    Richard --

    If I don't get a chance to tell you before Election Day, I just want to say:

    No matter what happens on Tuesday, I am grateful to you.

    And Richard, I want to make sure we're celebrating a win to honor all the work you and millions of others have put into this.

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    Four days to go -- let's make the most of them.

    Thank you,

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  • rssesqrssesq Posts: 3,299
    04/28/11 at 2:52 PM
    Richard --

    If it were easy to do the big, meaningful things we believe will make our country better -- if it were quick -- someone would have done those things long before any of us showed up.

    We've chosen to do something hard.

    You know that our victories so far have been hard won: taking the difficult steps necessary to put our economy back on track, reforming Wall Street excess despite an army of lobbyists against us, and making health care more affordable and accessible despite well-organized opposition by those who profit from the status quo.

    You also know we have not yet done everything we set out to do -- not nearly.

    But that's a reason to work harder, not to let up. That's why we're building this campaign now. And you have to take ownership of it.

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    https://donate.barackobama.com/Begin-Again

    We've had the chance to make historic changes that touch every American: from passing a law that says women should get an equal day's pay for an equal day's work to removing 100,000 troops from Iraq.

    Those things and every other important change we've made happened because people like you built an organization to win an election in 2008.

    The stakes are even higher this time.

    As I've spoken with supporters who are helping get this campaign started, I've met folks who are frustrated by the pace of change.

    I understand that. But we knew this wouldn't be easy. The kind of change we're working for never comes easily.

    Now is the time to begin again, and build the campaign that will shape our country's future.

    Thank you,

    Barack

  • rssesqrssesq Posts: 3,299
    u all knowing pinkos dont know mierda
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    rssesq said:

    $225,000 per year 8 years =
    $15,000 per day vaca =
    "Organizer" = $15,000 a year

    ...for starters, the President's salary is $400K/year
  • rssesqrssesq Posts: 3,299
    Richie donations = $2,000 easy
  • rssesqrssesq Posts: 3,299
    edited April 2017
    even though I made akillin off the shep posters =)
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,024
    How's Joe the Plumber doing these days? How about Sister Sarah? Maybe they need to work harder or get educated?
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  • HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Posts: 16,436
    Lol Joe the Plumber!
    Election cycle buzzwords & phrases kill me! Remember "hanging chad?"
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,024
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  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    Pretty emotional stuff.

    Jimmy Kimmel Reveals Details of His Son’s Birth & Heart Disease

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmWWoMcGmo0
  • Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,840
    Welp...looks like they have the votes

  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    Welp...looks like they have the votes

    Yeah, looks like they might figure it out yet. Lots of back door deals being made to get those votes for sure. If they can make it better, than great, but if it fails, well that's going to sink them in 1 - 3 years and ultimately hurt people.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 9,810
    Well, it's official. Get ready for the parade of back slapping.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/04/politics/trump-health-care-latest/index.html
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • tbergs said:
    Well, it's official. Get ready for the parade of back slapping.

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/04/politics/trump-health-care-latest/index.html
    until it gets shot down in flames in the senate. 
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,727
    Lol Joe the Plumber! Election cycle buzzwords & phrases kill me! Remember "hanging chad?"
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    rssesq said:
    $225,000 per year 8 years = $15,000 per day vaca = "Organizer" = $15,000 a year
    Look at his tax returns....he was a self employed writer who made a few million bucks
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    Could the Republicans be any more tone-deaf (not to mention compassion-free) than this tweet?

    "Sorry Jimmy Kimmel: your sad story doesn't obligate me or anybody else to pay for somebody else's health care."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/joe-walsh-jimmy-kimmel-baby-tweet_us_5908eac9e4b05c397683ad95?ir=Canada&utm_hp_ref=canada


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  • Could the Republicans be any more tone-deaf (not to mention compassion-free) than this tweet?

    "Sorry Jimmy Kimmel: your sad story doesn't obligate me or anybody else to pay for somebody else's health care."

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/joe-walsh-jimmy-kimmel-baby-tweet_us_5908eac9e4b05c397683ad95?ir=Canada&utm_hp_ref=canada


    yeah, well he's a deadbeat dad and sack of shit himself. 

    that's why I love twitter these days. all of these assholes shoot themselves in the foot while it's in their own mouth, 140 characters at a time. 
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