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buck502000 said:

BS44325 said:

We should give former Kentucky Governor Beshear props for his response...the future of the Democratic Party!

That was hilarious

I think I sat beside him at PJ Lexington.

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

Trump is Bannon's blunt instrument to reinstill post modern nationalism ala turn of the century Europe. Economic integration and co dependence has created the longest period of first world peace since the Middle Ages. This is not an exaggeration. The old ties of sectarianism, blood and soil are rearing their heads. Conservatives would be wise not to applaud it.

@BS44325 I would expect you to know the difference between conservatism and nationalism.

I do know the difference and you are not wrong on what economic integration has accomplished. The problem is that the pendulum has swung to far and this integration is failing in some areas. The question is whether the plan going forward is a full on return to nationalism or a restructuring of the integration along with expectations from those who are participating. I think the latter is more likely. Either way the point I have made repeatedly is the status quo is failing and will ultimately fail. A restructuring of some kind or another is necessary.

Is it? I would disagree. We are going through a period of great economic ADVANCEMENT. It's similar to what happened with the invention of the cotton gin or industrial revolution. It leaves lower skill workers behind. It's sad but it's happened every century. This round, for us, are manufacturing workers from the mid west who didn't go to college. Something should be done to help them (I'm a liberal after all) but that doesn't mean you halt progress.

The standard of living in this country and around the world has never been higher in aggregate. How is that failing?

buck502000 said:

dignin said:

Haha. One supposedly sane speech read off a teleprompter (didn't watch it) and the Trump apologists are confident and out in full force.

He will be back to full narcissist on twitter in less than a day and the AMT Trump supporters will run away with their tails between their legs again.

Bunch of suckers.

Some people will never support progress......

I have a feeling you don't know what that word means. But that's okay, stick around on the AMT and you will eventually catch on.

dignin said:

Haha. One supposedly sane speech read off a teleprompter (didn't watch it) and the Trump apologists are confident and out in full force.

He will be back to full narcissist on twitter in less than a day and the AMT Trump supporters will run away with their tails between their legs again.

Bunch of suckers.

Who has run away? You are right that he will return though...an the bait will be taken again.

buck502000 said:

dignin said:

buck502000 said:

dignin said:

Haha. One supposedly sane speech read off a teleprompter (didn't watch it) and the Trump apologists are confident and out in full force.

He will be back to full narcissist on twitter in less than a day and the AMT Trump supporters will run away with their tails between their legs again.

Bunch of suckers.

Some people will never support progress......

I have a feeling you don't know what that word means. But that's okay, stick around on the AMT and you will eventually catch on.

Some people will never support progess....

Are you referring to Trump? Maybe yourself? I'm confused, can you elaborate?

Didn't watch it. We didn't want our night to be ruined. I'll watch it eventually, though. Cheers, all.

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

Trump is Bannon's blunt instrument to reinstill post modern nationalism ala turn of the century Europe. Economic integration and co dependence has created the longest period of first world peace since the Middle Ages. This is not an exaggeration. The old ties of sectarianism, blood and soil are rearing their heads. Conservatives would be wise not to applaud it.

@BS44325 I would expect you to know the difference between conservatism and nationalism.

I do know the difference and you are not wrong on what economic integration has accomplished. The problem is that the pendulum has swung to far and this integration is failing in some areas. The question is whether the plan going forward is a full on return to nationalism or a restructuring of the integration along with expectations from those who are participating. I think the latter is more likely. Either way the point I have made repeatedly is the status quo is failing and will ultimately fail. A restructuring of some kind or another is necessary.

Is it? I would disagree. We are going through a period of great economic ADVANCEMENT. It's similar to what happened with the invention of the cotton gin or industrial revolution. It leaves lower skill workers behind. It's sad but it's happened every century. This round, for us, are manufacturing workers from the mid west who didn't go to college. Something should be done to help them (I'm a liberal after all) but that doesn't mean you halt progress.

The standard of living in this country and around the world has never been higher in aggregate. How is that failing?

Weren't you speaking more globally? If you were simply referring to the US then again you are not wrong on standard of living but the system as it exists certainly is failing many. This includes the inner cities and the manufacturing class where education policy is failing and these people will suffer even more when entitlement programs collapse under their own weight. The math is unsustainable.

Things aren't perfect and reform are needed, but economic protectionism is not the answer. That's what I fear from this president and the brain pulling the strings.