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who here still supports this guy? and why?

Stupidity and racism.

I support him because Americans elected him and he is our now our president. I voted for him because I thought he was a better option than Hillary. That doesn't mean I'm aligned with him on every issue though. This means I'm a stupid racist?

No but it does mean you voted for the candidate who ran on , fear , bigotry, exclusión so in some ways you do align with president Bafoon !

Could you please point out a fear tactic with a larger impact than calling anyone who didn't vote for your candidate sexist, racist, a bigot etc. that Trump and his campaign used? The left uses a much more drastic fear tactics that is repeated by the majority of posters here than anything I've seen Trump or his supporters pull. A blanket accusation for anyone who didn't vote for your candidate is worse than the so-called fear tactics some claim Trump uses.
Pot, meet kettle.

Ok maybe you saw a different campaign but I remember it differently!

I asked for examples, care to give one?
One that's worse than "if you don't vote for my guy (or gal) then your a racist, sexist, homophobe bigot."
I have yet to see an example of the fear campaign that lead to so many voting for him.

Has the left ever advocated or allowed its media outlets to promote violence that resulted in the deaths of people providing legally protected services? Spare me the left is worse bullshit.

I think that it is a much broader issue than either of you are suggesting. Violence in general has been allowed and promoted by left and right and all in-between for a long time now through various forms of violent media. There have been plenty of examples of our culture turning more and more violent and un-empathetic towards each other and I think we have been seeing the results of people growing up in a desensitizing environment for a while now...and I'm not just talking about the good ol' USA. In fact, my personal theory is that there is somewhat of an epidemiological addiction to violent media and this is being capitalized on by pretty much every media outlet out there. Media in general advocate, allow, and promote violence in for either vindictive or monetary reasons...almost makes one want to move to an island with no access to violent media to raise their children in a controlled environment...but that is of course my libertarian mumbo jumbo hogwash idealism peaking through.
http://www.apa.org/action/resources/research-in-action/protect.aspx

I'm don't think we're getting more violent. The violent crime rate has been dropping for years. Also, within the field of psychology, the conclusions about violence in media creating violent people is mixed or murky at best. As a culture, we tend to be enamored with violent stories in the media, but I think that's a result of fear being a big component of our culture, and fear also sells product and gets viewers. Case in point is that we've all normalized that stories of individual crime deserve headlines and front page coverage. .

how can i contact the president?anyone can help?
i need to build a wall so the goat of my neighbor doesnt jump on my yard..and need the mexicans to pay for it

pjhawks said:

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dimitrispearljam said:

how can i contact the president?anyone can help?
i need to build a wall so the goat of my neighbor doesnt jump on my yard..and need the mexicans to pay for it

1-800-dipshit

hahaha

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mace1229 said:

Sure he has bad temper many and throws tantrims like a 2-year-old, but it's a little far to claim one will lead to nuclear war.
Trump said he wants to deport illegals (and have them re-enter legally). Clinton responded by saying if Trump wins then all illegals crowded in box trains as they are forced to leave. No one mentioned box trains but her, box trains would be a completely impractical way to massively deport people (which he wont by the way) so why would she do that? To associate Trump with Hitler and the Halocaust. That is some heavy BS and good use of fear tactics right there.

Wasn't a massive component of Trump's campaign centred around Hillary and her carelessness with matters regarding national security?

That's fear mongering... is it not?

Sure, I guess you could argue that. Personally I don't think so, but maybe to some it is.
My point was for all the times "fear mongering" are referring to a campaign ran on fear are thrown out there referring to the right, the left is worse.
I asked for examples where the right was worse, and the only responses I've seen are
a) Trump said he is going to make America great again. Really? That's fear mongering to some? Name one candidate in the history of the world who ran on making things worse.
b) Trump said Clinton is careless with national security. Well, that is a proven fact. Maybe others were careless too, but according to the left Russia has all her emails. I just don't see that as fear mongering since it is true.

But lets just assume it is, fine. How is that as bad as saying Trump will cause nuclear war, Trump will create the next Nazi Germany, Trump will deport people in box cars. Sorry, but that's a thousand times worse than any fear mongering example I've heard about the right.
Here is the defense I've heard so far today.
a) labeling an entire group isn't fear mongering because its true. Although, isn't that much more like Nazi Germany than anything Trump has actually done? I wouldn't call it that, because that is disrespectful for anyone who lived through it or fought to end it.
b) I never heard Hilary claim Trump was going to cause nuclear war, so next. Well it was an add than ran for weeks, and she even said it herself at rallies. She is invoking the fear of nuclear war to get votes!
c) compares Trump to Nazi Germany, Hitler and the Holocaust Only defense I heard to this was to point out my typo.

I was calling it out because I think it's total BS to throw that word around given the circumstances. And so many on the right are frustrated with the extremes of the left. You didn't vote for Hilary then your a racist, sexist, homophobic bigot. But heaven forbid we use the phrase "Islamic terrorist." Its this sort of extremism that the left is so blind to that gave Trump the edge on this election, while at the same time making all sorts of accusations about anyone who doesn't agree with them.

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The big question is, has he consulted with China on the best options for wall building. Is there any country that ever built a wall where it's regarded as a positive our effective piece of their country's safety?

Maybe he plans on making it a tourist attraction like "The Great Wall" and recouping the money that way.

We all know a wall isn't going to stop anyone, so it must have some other purpose.

Well it is certain to seriously harm wildlife and the rest of the environment. Maybe that's the purpose.

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mace1229 said:

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vaggar99 said:

who here still supports this guy? and why?

Stupidity and racism.

I support him because Americans elected him and he is our now our president. I voted for him because I thought he was a better option than Hillary. That doesn't mean I'm aligned with him on every issue though. This means I'm a stupid racist?

No but it does mean you voted for the candidate who ran on , fear , bigotry, exclusión so in some ways you do align with president Bafoon !

Could you please point out a fear tactic with a larger impact than calling anyone who didn't vote for your candidate sexist, racist, a bigot etc. that Trump and his campaign used? The left uses a much more drastic fear tactics that is repeated by the majority of posters here than anything I've seen Trump or his supporters pull. A blanket accusation for anyone who didn't vote for your candidate is worse than the so-called fear tactics some claim Trump uses.
Pot, meet kettle.

Ok maybe you saw a different campaign but I remember it differently!

I asked for examples, care to give one?
One that's worse than "if you don't vote for my guy (or gal) then your a racist, sexist, homophobe bigot."
I have yet to see an example of the fear campaign that lead to so many voting for him.

yelling ad nauseum about national security, stopping muslim immigration, floating the idea of a muslim registry, saying about mexican immigrants "they aren't sending their best, they are sending murderers, rapists, I'm sure some of them are good people...".

and I'd like to see the source of your quote. I don't believe it exists.

you didn't address my post, @mace1229

I will acknowledge, however, that Hillary did run at least one ad using some guy who used to be in charge of "the button" to launch a nuclear missle if ordered to do so, saying he was afraid that if Donald were in charge, he most certainly would be getting that call. or something to that effect.

but honestly, that came as a result of Trump's own idiocy. he was quoted as asking someone in the administration "why we can't just use nuclear weapons?". don't you find that concerning?

Trumps in a Mexican stand-off with Mexico.

dignin said:

Mayor Walsh Vows To Keep Boston A Safe Place For Immigrants Following Trump's Orders

http://www.wbur.org/news/2017/01/26/walsh-fights-trump-immigration-orders

Seattle's Mayor, Ed Murray, also gave Trump the finger, said that Seattle will remain a sanctuary city. "We Will Not Be Intimidated by the Authoritarian Message Coming from This Administration."

Washington State's Governor, Jay Inslee, said that if Trump's border wall is anything like his inauguration crowd assessment it will be 8 inches high.

I love living across the continent from Trump and D.C. in general. What a clusterfuck. Glad the leadership in my state is telling Trump to go fuck himself.

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dignin said:

Mayor Walsh Vows To Keep Boston A Safe Place For Immigrants Following Trump's Orders

http://www.wbur.org/news/2017/01/26/walsh-fights-trump-immigration-orders

Seattle's Mayor, Ed Murray, also gave Trump the finger, said that Seattle will remain a sanctuary city. "We Will Not Be Intimidated by the Authoritarian Message Coming from This Administration."

Washington State's Governor, Jay Inslee, said that if Trump's border wall is anything like his inauguration crowd assessment it will be 8 inches high.

I love living across the continent from Trump and D.C. in general. What a clusterfuck. Glad the leadership in my state is telling Trump to go fuck himself.

Philly, NYC and Boston mayors said the same