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That Dave Ramsey stuff was pretty good. Got it all free through my wife's work 10 years ago.PJPOWER said:
That's crazy! Personally, I jumped on the Dave Ramsey train and never looked back. Hopefully I never have a reason to go into debt again!JC29856 said:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2016/10/09/savings-study/91083712/Halifax2TheMax said:
How can anyone afford to buy anything? 45% of the US working population, or is it 60%, is unemployed.PJPOWER said:
You should probably give him a little credit for this...dignin said:
It was all because of The Don.PJPOWER said:Meanwhile, the Dow is at an all time high.
http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow/
Good fiscal govern-ship for the last 8 years has nothing to do with it.
I seem to remember Bush 2 taking over a robust economy. I can't remember how that turned out.
I think I'm with you guys, lets give The Don a chance to fuck this up.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dow-cracks-20000-milestone-intraday-for-the-first-time-2017-01-25
Or
https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-markets-20170125-story,amp.html?client=safari
I'll give Obama credit for keeping it low so that people were able to buy cheap...hope you didn't miss the boat!
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/03/how-much-americans-at-every-age-have-in-their-savings-accounts.htmlIt's a hopeless situation...0 -
Changed our life and our whole view of money. Now we are at a point where we can "live more and give more". If only more people would buy into it instead of keeping on spending frivolously with money they do not have. "The debtor is slave to the lender". We actually just payed outright cash for our first vehicle a couple days ago!tbergs said:
That Dave Ramsey stuff was pretty good. Got it all free through my wife's work 10 years ago.PJPOWER said:
That's crazy! Personally, I jumped on the Dave Ramsey train and never looked back. Hopefully I never have a reason to go into debt again!JC29856 said:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2016/10/09/savings-study/91083712/Halifax2TheMax said:
How can anyone afford to buy anything? 45% of the US working population, or is it 60%, is unemployed.PJPOWER said:
You should probably give him a little credit for this...dignin said:
It was all because of The Don.PJPOWER said:Meanwhile, the Dow is at an all time high.
http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow/
Good fiscal govern-ship for the last 8 years has nothing to do with it.
I seem to remember Bush 2 taking over a robust economy. I can't remember how that turned out.
I think I'm with you guys, lets give The Don a chance to fuck this up.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dow-cracks-20000-milestone-intraday-for-the-first-time-2017-01-25
Or
https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-markets-20170125-story,amp.html?client=safari
I'll give Obama credit for keeping it low so that people were able to buy cheap...hope you didn't miss the boat!
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/03/how-much-americans-at-every-age-have-in-their-savings-accounts.htmlPost edited by PJPOWER on0 -
I've always found that slave comparison a little.... off. I mean, people choose to get into debt with the understanding of what the terms are, so I just think the "slave" analogy, which I see all the time, is one that transfers responsibility off of the borrower, which I think is wrong, unless you're talking about a situation where it was literally debt or death, like with some people who suffer under the American healthcare system. But at any rate, I know what you're trying to say, and yeah, debt is just rotten. As someone who just paid off ALL her debt a couple of months ago, I can confirm that being totally debt free is absolutely glorious. That weight that everyone is always talking about is very real. It's like my entire life is better since the debt finally disappeared. I was really hurtin' from it for some years.PJPOWER said:
Changed our life and our whole view of money. Now we are at a point where we can "live more and give more". If only more people would buy into it instead of keeping on spending frivolously with money they do not have. "The debtor is slave to the lender".tbergs said:
That Dave Ramsey stuff was pretty good. Got it all free through my wife's work 10 years ago.PJPOWER said:
That's crazy! Personally, I jumped on the Dave Ramsey train and never looked back. Hopefully I never have a reason to go into debt again!JC29856 said:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2016/10/09/savings-study/91083712/Halifax2TheMax said:
How can anyone afford to buy anything? 45% of the US working population, or is it 60%, is unemployed.PJPOWER said:
You should probably give him a little credit for this...dignin said:
It was all because of The Don.PJPOWER said:Meanwhile, the Dow is at an all time high.
http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow/
Good fiscal govern-ship for the last 8 years has nothing to do with it.
I seem to remember Bush 2 taking over a robust economy. I can't remember how that turned out.
I think I'm with you guys, lets give The Don a chance to fuck this up.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dow-cracks-20000-milestone-intraday-for-the-first-time-2017-01-25
Or
https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-markets-20170125-story,amp.html?client=safari
I'll give Obama credit for keeping it low so that people were able to buy cheap...hope you didn't miss the boat!
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/03/how-much-americans-at-every-age-have-in-their-savings-accounts.htmlPost edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Congratulations!!! Love hearing that people are taking control of their lives and finances!PJ_Soul said:
I've always found that slave comparison a little.... off. I mean, people choose to get into debt, so I just think the "slave" analogy, which I see all the time, one that transfers responsibility off of the borrower, which I think is wrong. But at any rate, I know what you're trying to say, and yeah, debt is just rotten. As someone who just paid off ALL her debt a couple of months ago, I can confirm that being totally debt free is absolutely glorious. That weight that everyone is always talking about is very real. It's like my entire life is better since the debt finally disappeared. I was really hurtin' from it for some years.PJPOWER said:
Changed our life and our whole view of money. Now we are at a point where we can "live more and give more". If only more people would buy into it instead of keeping on spending frivolously with money they do not have. "The debtor is slave to the lender".tbergs said:
That Dave Ramsey stuff was pretty good. Got it all free through my wife's work 10 years ago.PJPOWER said:
That's crazy! Personally, I jumped on the Dave Ramsey train and never looked back. Hopefully I never have a reason to go into debt again!JC29856 said:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2016/10/09/savings-study/91083712/Halifax2TheMax said:
How can anyone afford to buy anything? 45% of the US working population, or is it 60%, is unemployed.PJPOWER said:
You should probably give him a little credit for this...dignin said:
It was all because of The Don.PJPOWER said:Meanwhile, the Dow is at an all time high.
http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow/
Good fiscal govern-ship for the last 8 years has nothing to do with it.
I seem to remember Bush 2 taking over a robust economy. I can't remember how that turned out.
I think I'm with you guys, lets give The Don a chance to fuck this up.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dow-cracks-20000-milestone-intraday-for-the-first-time-2017-01-25
Or
https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-markets-20170125-story,amp.html?client=safari
I'll give Obama credit for keeping it low so that people were able to buy cheap...hope you didn't miss the boat!
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/03/how-much-americans-at-every-age-have-in-their-savings-accounts.html0 -
Thank you!PJPOWER said:
Congratulations!!! Love hearing that people are taking control of their lives and finances!PJ_Soul said:
I've always found that slave comparison a little.... off. I mean, people choose to get into debt, so I just think the "slave" analogy, which I see all the time, one that transfers responsibility off of the borrower, which I think is wrong. But at any rate, I know what you're trying to say, and yeah, debt is just rotten. As someone who just paid off ALL her debt a couple of months ago, I can confirm that being totally debt free is absolutely glorious. That weight that everyone is always talking about is very real. It's like my entire life is better since the debt finally disappeared. I was really hurtin' from it for some years.PJPOWER said:
Changed our life and our whole view of money. Now we are at a point where we can "live more and give more". If only more people would buy into it instead of keeping on spending frivolously with money they do not have. "The debtor is slave to the lender".tbergs said:
That Dave Ramsey stuff was pretty good. Got it all free through my wife's work 10 years ago.PJPOWER said:
That's crazy! Personally, I jumped on the Dave Ramsey train and never looked back. Hopefully I never have a reason to go into debt again!JC29856 said:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2016/10/09/savings-study/91083712/Halifax2TheMax said:
How can anyone afford to buy anything? 45% of the US working population, or is it 60%, is unemployed.PJPOWER said:
You should probably give him a little credit for this...dignin said:
It was all because of The Don.PJPOWER said:Meanwhile, the Dow is at an all time high.
http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow/
Good fiscal govern-ship for the last 8 years has nothing to do with it.
I seem to remember Bush 2 taking over a robust economy. I can't remember how that turned out.
I think I'm with you guys, lets give The Don a chance to fuck this up.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dow-cracks-20000-milestone-intraday-for-the-first-time-2017-01-25
Or
https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-markets-20170125-story,amp.html?client=safari
I'll give Obama credit for keeping it low so that people were able to buy cheap...hope you didn't miss the boat!
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/03/how-much-americans-at-every-age-have-in-their-savings-accounts.htmlI hope everyone here can somehow find a way to get out from under that rock! It can be so hard though. Sometimes impossible. Good luck to all!
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Latest tweet folks,
I will be interviewed by @DavidMuir tonight at 10 o'clock on @ABC. Will be my first interview from the White House. Enjoy! – at The White House0 -
Here is some video of his first interview.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-trump-tells-abc-news-david-muir-absolutely/story?id=450450550 -
where are you PJ? i love this song by the wayKat said:0 -
the ones who do, i admire your eloquence. however, none of you make much of attempt to defend this manJC29856 said:
Well said. You're touching on the reasons why many don't bother posting here.j1kotwic said:
Ah ha, so there is someone in AMT who believes that non-racist Trump voters exist. So you won't agree that not all Trump voters are stupid... I consider myself to be a pretty smart guy. But I suppose most stupid people consider themselves to be smart. Shit maybe I am stupid and just don't know it. And to think all of this could have been avoided if I voted like you.pjhawks said:
clearly not all who voted for him are racists but the other description seems pretty apt.j1kotwic said:
I don't think I made a bad decision. I think I voted for the better of the two options... it was a difficult decision that I struggled with at times. I think you guys need to realize that half of the voters chose a different candidate than you and not all of them are morons and/or racists.Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
So you made a really bad decision. And now you're just going to 'fall in line' because he's your president? My gawd man.j1kotwic said:
I support him because Americans elected him and he is our now our president. I voted for him because I thought he was a better option than Hillary. That doesn't mean I'm aligned with him on every issue though. This means I'm a stupid racist?Spiritual_Chaos said:
Stupidity and racism.vaggar99 said:who here still supports this guy? and why?
And sorry, but questions regarding your critical thinking ability emerge when you say you "thought he was a better option..." You might be a hell of a guy, but eesh. Trump was a steep price to pay to stick it to the establishment (not that you did that anyways... you voted for an silver spoon fed billionaire instead of a millionaire).
In all seriousness, I think it's stupid to judge someone you've never met based on who they voted for... and it seems like there is way too much of this going on these days - especially here in AMT. I'd be happy to participate in a meaningful discussion about this election but if I'm considered by everyone on here to be a stupid racist right off the bat then I guess there's no point in trying. That's pretty much why I usually read AMT and don't post. You guys are like the Fox News of the left, except worse. Doesn't anyone see that?0 -
I think people who are happy to support or defend someone who has said and done the things that Trump has said and done.... well, let's just say I don't respect for someone who supports or defends a rapist or a racist or a fascist, and I don't think it's reasonable to expect me to.
So please, if someone who voted for Trump can justify voting for a sexual predator who used racism to incite his supporters and is employing blatantly fascist propaganda tactics without shame, and who has glaring conflicts of interest and who chose a cabinet who is worth more than 1/3 of the entire American population, I'm all ears. But so far, nobody has really even attempted to explain this reasoning. Perhaps that's because there is no excuse for voting for such a person, despite the fear of "maintaining the establishment", which, of course, Trump is totally doing, but just with his own cronies who have even more money to make and have even less interest in what's good for American citizens?Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
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This just keeps getting more and more bizarre...JC29856 said:0 -
I never alluded to that at all.PJPOWER said:
You act as though I would have all of my current investments in one basket...that's dense.HesCalledDyer said:
No, you will lose all your current investments is what you'll do. Because you won't have secret insider info on when to sell. And you won't have money to buy, buy, buy! Did you not pay attention to the Reagan and Dubya administrations?PJPOWER said:Then I will buy buy buy! Sell high, buy low!
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Good, because that would be dense...HesCalledDyer said:
I never alluded to that at all.PJPOWER said:
You act as though I would have all of my current investments in one basket...that's dense.HesCalledDyer said:
No, you will lose all your current investments is what you'll do. Because you won't have secret insider info on when to sell. And you won't have money to buy, buy, buy! Did you not pay attention to the Reagan and Dubya administrations?PJPOWER said:Then I will buy buy buy! Sell high, buy low!
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Gonna be an awesome mess tomorrow. Think he shows?
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Ha! I didn't catch that. That won't be up for long. Looks like an interesting crowddignin said:0 -
My kinda crowd!Cliffy6745 said:
Ha! I didn't catch that. That won't be up for long. Looks like an interesting crowddignin said:0
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