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You act as though I would have all of my current investments in one basket...that's dense.HesCalledDyer said:
No, you will lose all your current investments is what you'll do. Because you won't have secret insider info on when to sell. And you won't have money to buy, buy, buy! Did you not pay attention to the Reagan and Dubya administrations?PJPOWER said:Then I will buy buy buy! Sell high, buy low!
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You do realize that under Obama the Dow went from like 7000 to 19990 right? Not so sure I'd call that keeping it low...PJPOWER said:
That's what it's starting to look like...my2hands said:
Obama kept the DOW low?PJPOWER said:
You should probably give him a little credit for this...dignin said:
It was all because of The Don.PJPOWER said:Meanwhile, the Dow is at an all time high.
http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow/
Good fiscal govern-ship for the last 8 years has nothing to do with it.
I seem to remember Bush 2 taking over a robust economy. I can't remember how that turned out.
I think I'm with you guys, lets give The Don a chance to fuck this up.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dow-cracks-20000-milestone-intraday-for-the-first-time-2017-01-25
Or
https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-markets-20170125-story,amp.html?client=safari
I'll give Obama credit for keeping it low so that people were able to buy cheap...hope you didn't miss the boat!0 -
I appreciate this response. It is an opinion piece but it is very well sourced with lots of links within the article. It also is written by someone with first hand knowledge. I don't fault you for having your sensors up.HughFreakingDillon said:
I reacted to the first thing he posted, which was a clearly biased opinion piece, which is hardly digestible as truth. I've been looking into it a little deeper since then, and yes, it looks as if the original sentiment was true. further analysis is required. I hate that I have to read something, then research the political leanings of the author. nothing is just fucking news anymore. it's news with a slant.JC29856 said:
Didn't you see what happened here? Hysterical post after hysterical post, raid fire, then a topic emerges (obama and media) and the evidence doesn't fit the majority narrative, then everyone went to lunch. Phil Collins drum kit!BS44325 said:
Here are some unbiased facts for youHughFreakingDillon said:
oh please. a biased opinion piece. next.BS44325 said:
wouldHalifax2TheMax said:
I wonder how Unsung feels about federal jack booted thugs occupying his city? Maybe he's okay with it seeing how it'll be predominately minority occupied neighborhoods that'll be occupied?BS44325 said:
With the big difference being that Trump will not tolerate the carnage that is Chicago.Go Beavers said:
Yawn. Yup, he's just like Obama. Got it.BS44325 said:
He also has a pen and a phone.Go Beavers said:
You're just referring to what trump said about Chicago. But even in that single scenario, trump will interpret those as giving him permission to send "the feds". He will probably be told no, and then it what hapoens after that matters. You seem to be under the impression that trump is educated on anything about the federal government and is willing to respect the limits placed on it.BS44325 said:
No. It doesn't lead to multiple scenerios. The Posse Comitatus Act and the Insurrection Act detail requirements and limitations for a federal government to intervene.Go Beavers said:
Which bring us to multiple scenarios of agencies and government employees not following our new dictators orders. What follows that, and what are the implications? The system runs on a certain level of faith and trust. Trump is effing with that and he has no clue whatsoever.BS44325 said:
Yes. The governor has to make the request. Think back to Katrina. Bush couldn't send troops until Governor Blanco made the official request.ledvedderman said:
No shit. I wonder what the chain of command is for something like that. Would Rahm or our piece of shit Governor Rauner have to make a request for the feds to step in?Go Beavers said:Jesus H, he just threatened to bring "the feds"?!
I am not surprised that most of you are unfamiliar with Obama's record on press freedom and the prosecution of journalists and whistleblowers but here's a little tasteHughFreakingDillon said:
when did he do that? did he refuse to answer their questions at pressers?BS44325 said:
Except nobody was concerned when Obama prosecuted members of the media or disparaged media sources on the right.PJ_Soul said:
Kat specifically brought up censorship OF THE MEDIA. Totally different, and EXTREMELY dangerous to everyone's freedom.BS44325 said:
C'mon Kat...you've censored far more people then Trump ever has. Sure this is a forum with rules to be enforced but federal agencies (which include national parks) also have rules with respect to communications and federal employees are expected to follow those rules. If employees of these agencies disagree with the politics of their leaders then they can resign. One has a right to free speech but they don't have the right to operate outside the rules of this forum or outside of the rules of their employer.Kat said:When you google censorship of the media...
Censorship is the suppression of free speech, public communication or other information which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically incorrect or inconvenient as determined by governments, media outlets, authorities or other groups or institutions.
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/12/30/opinion/sunday/if-donald-trump-targets-journalists-thank-obama.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Department_of_Justice_investigations_of_reporters
But I wouldn't be surprised if you brush this off as well. Press freedom was under assault and nobody made a peep.0 -
Not tolerating intolerance isn't intolerance.PJPOWER said:"Tolerance"
https://youtu.be/rxbznGpN2n4Post edited by Kat on0 -
One woman's Fox is another woman's CNN. I find Trump continually calling out CNN to be distasteful...I am not supporting him on this. My point is that people on here who were ok with Obama calling out Fox have set themselves up for Trump doing the same. You can't have it both ways PJSoul.PJ_Soul said:
He trashed Fox news for their tactics. I applauded him for that, and it isn't even close to comparable to what Trump is doing. I feel like Professor BS has made the decision to not acknowledge the difference between right and wrong, facts and non-facts, news and fake news, or news vs propaganda.HughFreakingDillon said:
when did he do that? did he refuse to answer their questions at pressers?BS44325 said:
Except nobody was concerned when Obama prosecuted members of the media or disparaged media sources on the right.PJ_Soul said:
Kat specifically brought up censorship OF THE MEDIA. Totally different, and EXTREMELY dangerous to everyone's freedom.BS44325 said:
C'mon Kat...you've censored far more people then Trump ever has. Sure this is a forum with rules to be enforced but federal agencies (which include national parks) also have rules with respect to communications and federal employees are expected to follow those rules. If employees of these agencies disagree with the politics of their leaders then they can resign. One has a right to free speech but they don't have the right to operate outside the rules of this forum or outside of the rules of their employer.Kat said:When you google censorship of the media...
Censorship is the suppression of free speech, public communication or other information which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically incorrect or inconvenient as determined by governments, media outlets, authorities or other groups or institutions.0 -
That's hilarious. Explain exactly what you mean by Fox versus CNN.BS44325 said:
One woman's Fox is another woman's CNN. I find Trump continually calling out CNN to be distasteful...I am not supporting him on this. My point is that people on here who were ok with Obama calling out Fox have set themselves up for Trump doing the same. You can't have it both ways PJSoul.PJ_Soul said:
He trashed Fox news for their tactics. I applauded him for that, and it isn't even close to comparable to what Trump is doing. I feel like Professor BS has made the decision to not acknowledge the difference between right and wrong, facts and non-facts, news and fake news, or news vs propaganda.HughFreakingDillon said:
when did he do that? did he refuse to answer their questions at pressers?BS44325 said:
Except nobody was concerned when Obama prosecuted members of the media or disparaged media sources on the right.PJ_Soul said:
Kat specifically brought up censorship OF THE MEDIA. Totally different, and EXTREMELY dangerous to everyone's freedom.BS44325 said:
C'mon Kat...you've censored far more people then Trump ever has. Sure this is a forum with rules to be enforced but federal agencies (which include national parks) also have rules with respect to communications and federal employees are expected to follow those rules. If employees of these agencies disagree with the politics of their leaders then they can resign. One has a right to free speech but they don't have the right to operate outside the rules of this forum or outside of the rules of their employer.Kat said:When you google censorship of the media...
Censorship is the suppression of free speech, public communication or other information which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically incorrect or inconvenient as determined by governments, media outlets, authorities or other groups or institutions.
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Brutal.PJPOWER said:"Tolerance"
https://youtu.be/rxbznGpN2n4
Cletus did a good job brushing the fire out though I reckon."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
How can anyone afford to buy anything? 45% of the US working population, or is it 60%, is unemployed.PJPOWER said:
You should probably give him a little credit for this...dignin said:
It was all because of The Don.PJPOWER said:Meanwhile, the Dow is at an all time high.
http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow/
Good fiscal govern-ship for the last 8 years has nothing to do with it.
I seem to remember Bush 2 taking over a robust economy. I can't remember how that turned out.
I think I'm with you guys, lets give The Don a chance to fuck this up.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dow-cracks-20000-milestone-intraday-for-the-first-time-2017-01-25
Or
https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-markets-20170125-story,amp.html?client=safari
I'll give Obama credit for keeping it low so that people were able to buy cheap...hope you didn't miss the boat!09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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We just might witness a purge.Cliffy6745 said:Ummmm, the Pentagon is now trolling the President? National parks are one thing, but this is kinda scary, no?
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Usually when I try to attempt a homicide, I try to leave the scene of the crime as quickly and as quietly as possible.PJPOWER said:"Tolerance"
https://youtu.be/rxbznGpN2n4
CIA needs to recruit that girl, take her to the black sites, give her a pair of pliers and just tell her the captive is a Trump supporter.Be Excellent To Each OtherParty On, Dudes!0 -
Illegal immigrants are doing all of the spending, obviously. Americans are too busy buying Chinese products.Halifax2TheMax said:
How can anyone afford to buy anything? 45% of the US working population, or is it 60%, is unemployed.PJPOWER said:
You should probably give him a little credit for this...dignin said:
It was all because of The Don.PJPOWER said:Meanwhile, the Dow is at an all time high.
http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow/
Good fiscal govern-ship for the last 8 years has nothing to do with it.
I seem to remember Bush 2 taking over a robust economy. I can't remember how that turned out.
I think I'm with you guys, lets give The Don a chance to fuck this up.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dow-cracks-20000-milestone-intraday-for-the-first-time-2017-01-25
Or
https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-markets-20170125-story,amp.html?client=safari
I'll give Obama credit for keeping it low so that people were able to buy cheap...hope you didn't miss the boat!It's a hopeless situation...0 -
#AlternativeFactssachtriv said:
You do realize that under Obama the Dow went from like 7000 to 19990 right? Not so sure I'd call that keeping it low...PJPOWER said:
That's what it's starting to look like...my2hands said:
Obama kept the DOW low?PJPOWER said:
You should probably give him a little credit for this...dignin said:
It was all because of The Don.PJPOWER said:Meanwhile, the Dow is at an all time high.
http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow/
Good fiscal govern-ship for the last 8 years has nothing to do with it.
I seem to remember Bush 2 taking over a robust economy. I can't remember how that turned out.
I think I'm with you guys, lets give The Don a chance to fuck this up.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dow-cracks-20000-milestone-intraday-for-the-first-time-2017-01-25
Or
https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-markets-20170125-story,amp.html?client=safari
I'll give Obama credit for keeping it low so that people were able to buy cheap...hope you didn't miss the boat!0 -
As the Alternative Fact Spreader in Chief, I demand an immediate cease and desist of any and all alternative facts!my2hands said:
#AlternativeFactssachtriv said:
You do realize that under Obama the Dow went from like 7000 to 19990 right? Not so sure I'd call that keeping it low...PJPOWER said:
That's what it's starting to look like...my2hands said:
Obama kept the DOW low?PJPOWER said:
You should probably give him a little credit for this...dignin said:
It was all because of The Don.PJPOWER said:Meanwhile, the Dow is at an all time high.
http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow/
Good fiscal govern-ship for the last 8 years has nothing to do with it.
I seem to remember Bush 2 taking over a robust economy. I can't remember how that turned out.
I think I'm with you guys, lets give The Don a chance to fuck this up.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dow-cracks-20000-milestone-intraday-for-the-first-time-2017-01-25
Or
https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-markets-20170125-story,amp.html?client=safari
I'll give Obama credit for keeping it low so that people were able to buy cheap...hope you didn't miss the boat!0 -
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2016/10/09/savings-study/91083712/Halifax2TheMax said:
How can anyone afford to buy anything? 45% of the US working population, or is it 60%, is unemployed.PJPOWER said:
You should probably give him a little credit for this...dignin said:
It was all because of The Don.PJPOWER said:Meanwhile, the Dow is at an all time high.
http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow/
Good fiscal govern-ship for the last 8 years has nothing to do with it.
I seem to remember Bush 2 taking over a robust economy. I can't remember how that turned out.
I think I'm with you guys, lets give The Don a chance to fuck this up.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dow-cracks-20000-milestone-intraday-for-the-first-time-2017-01-25
Or
https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-markets-20170125-story,amp.html?client=safari
I'll give Obama credit for keeping it low so that people were able to buy cheap...hope you didn't miss the boat!
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/03/how-much-americans-at-every-age-have-in-their-savings-accounts.html0 -
Right? The amount of money that will spent on the wall is absolutely massive. A low estimate is around $30 Billion, not counting the legal expenses, and not counting the maintenance and patrolling that will follow indefinitely (not to mention the environmental impact).dimitrispearljam said:i guess u didmt want yopur taxes goes to obama care..now will go to build the wall in mexico boarders..hahahahah
This fucking wall will end up being an astronomical expense to Americans. Seems to me like it will cost Americans much more than the problem it's supposed to fix. But hey, as long as it somehow makes Trump and his friends lots of money, which I'm sure it will. How many stocks does Trump hold in the companies that will build and supply for this wall? As many as he holds in the pipeline companies he just signed an executive order for? Or more? With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
sorry dude, CNN is clearly NOT the same as Fox. not by a longshot.BS44325 said:
One woman's Fox is another woman's CNN. I find Trump continually calling out CNN to be distasteful...I am not supporting him on this. My point is that people on here who were ok with Obama calling out Fox have set themselves up for Trump doing the same. You can't have it both ways PJSoul.PJ_Soul said:
He trashed Fox news for their tactics. I applauded him for that, and it isn't even close to comparable to what Trump is doing. I feel like Professor BS has made the decision to not acknowledge the difference between right and wrong, facts and non-facts, news and fake news, or news vs propaganda.HughFreakingDillon said:
when did he do that? did he refuse to answer their questions at pressers?BS44325 said:
Except nobody was concerned when Obama prosecuted members of the media or disparaged media sources on the right.PJ_Soul said:
Kat specifically brought up censorship OF THE MEDIA. Totally different, and EXTREMELY dangerous to everyone's freedom.BS44325 said:
C'mon Kat...you've censored far more people then Trump ever has. Sure this is a forum with rules to be enforced but federal agencies (which include national parks) also have rules with respect to communications and federal employees are expected to follow those rules. If employees of these agencies disagree with the politics of their leaders then they can resign. One has a right to free speech but they don't have the right to operate outside the rules of this forum or outside of the rules of their employer.Kat said:When you google censorship of the media...
Censorship is the suppression of free speech, public communication or other information which may be considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, politically incorrect or inconvenient as determined by governments, media outlets, authorities or other groups or institutions.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Looks like we're officially on the false equivalency train. It is the last Republican defense, apparently.Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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That's crazy! Personally, I jumped on the Dave Ramsey train and never looked back. Hopefully I never have a reason to go into debt again!JC29856 said:
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/personalfinance/2016/10/09/savings-study/91083712/Halifax2TheMax said:
How can anyone afford to buy anything? 45% of the US working population, or is it 60%, is unemployed.PJPOWER said:
You should probably give him a little credit for this...dignin said:
It was all because of The Don.PJPOWER said:Meanwhile, the Dow is at an all time high.
http://money.cnn.com/data/markets/dow/
Good fiscal govern-ship for the last 8 years has nothing to do with it.
I seem to remember Bush 2 taking over a robust economy. I can't remember how that turned out.
I think I'm with you guys, lets give The Don a chance to fuck this up.
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dow-cracks-20000-milestone-intraday-for-the-first-time-2017-01-25
Or
https://www.google.com/amp/www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-markets-20170125-story,amp.html?client=safari
I'll give Obama credit for keeping it low so that people were able to buy cheap...hope you didn't miss the boat!
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/03/how-much-americans-at-every-age-have-in-their-savings-accounts.html0
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