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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    mace1229 said:

    I wouldn't say the majority does it, but I would definitely say it has happened, and quite a lot since the election.
    Scroll through the threads, you'll find quite a few posts accusing people of being racist, sexists, bigots, and much more based solely on who they voted for. What kind of free election is this if you get shamed for voting for the other party? Trump has said some stupid things, and I think you were the one who even suggested that he just talks big without thinking first, so you'd understand that people who voted for him don't like everything he says. But they are still called a bunch of shameful names anyway. To be called sexist, racist, homophobic based on your vote can be a fear tactic in today's world. People are afraid to admit they voted for him in the work place or in social groups, not because they regret it, but because the stigma the far left has placed on your vote. And that sucks. Who wants to be labeled any of those things?
    And it does swing both ways, it just seems to be swinging more from one side right now because of the election.
    I didn't like Trump, but as bad as I think he's going to be I think Clintons was worse. I have the right to that opinion. But unfortunately I would not post that on social media that could be traced back to me personally for the stigma that has been placed on it and fear of offending someone at work. I don't want to deal with that. However, voting Clinton is okay to advertise.
    It's not that all of Trump supporters are racist, sexists, or bigots. It's just that a good number of racist, sexists, and bigots voted for Trump.

    The correlation is well established, it's the causation that's concerning.

    As for the Trump supporters who don't consider themselves to be racist, sexists, or bigots; they're going to have to do some soul searching and come to terms with why they find themselves in such deplorable company.

    And if you're afraid to stand up for your preferred candidate for fear of offending someone, I think that speaks volumes about your candidate.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    What do you like so far?
    I pay zero attention to the temperament aspect...the idiotic tweets, the bluster, etc. I am not saying that isn't important but for me it is all about the decisions to date and as a conservative I generally like his appointments. I understand why progressives would hate them but for me these are competent people who will steer policy in a direction I would like to see it go. On the domestic front it is clear that he will aim to liberate businesses from the crushing taxes and regulations that prevent growth. On the international front I am a big fan of moves like the "Taiwan phone call" and I hope that type of stance combined with a quality Secretary of State selection (I'm personally hoping for Romney) allows US foreign policy to get back on the right footing. The danger for Trump from a conservative perspective will come on spending and entitlements during his term...those bills are coming due and he will be the one who has to finally confront the debt no matter how ugly that confrontation will be. Lastly he better get a handle on his personal business ties. He is correct that he is not obligated to divest but that shit creeps up over time and he will not be able to run from even the slightest notion that he is profiting off of government decisions forever. All in all though I am satisfied...I saw him as a terrible candidate with more upside potential and for me that potential is showing.
  • InHiding80InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    Jason P said:

    Trump supporters are urging a boycott of Star Wars Rogue One???

    All right, they finally crossed the motherfucking line. Fuck these clowns!

    They need to stick with Chuck Norris movies and Pure Flix propaganda. Dafuq do they care about liberal Hollywood?
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    BS44325 said:

    I pay zero attention to the temperament aspect...the idiotic tweets, the bluster, etc. I am not saying that isn't important but for me it is all about the decisions to date and as a conservative I generally like his appointments. I understand why progressives would hate them but for me these are competent people who will steer policy in a direction I would like to see it go. On the domestic front it is clear that he will aim to liberate businesses from the crushing taxes and regulations that prevent growth. On the international front I am a big fan of moves like the "Taiwan phone call" and I hope that type of stance combined with a quality Secretary of State selection (I'm personally hoping for Romney) allows US foreign policy to get back on the right footing. The danger for Trump from a conservative perspective will come on spending and entitlements during his term...those bills are coming due and he will be the one who has to finally confront the debt no matter how ugly that confrontation will be. Lastly he better get a handle on his personal business ties. He is correct that he is not obligated to divest but that shit creeps up over time and he will not be able to run from even the slightest notion that he is profiting off of government decisions forever. All in all though I am satisfied...I saw him as a terrible candidate with more upside potential and for me that potential is showing.

    I'm not sure which is my favorite: the racist AG, the billionaire up for Secretary of Labor who has a ton of restaurants that commit wage theft, the EPA head who puppets for polluting industries, the WWE titan for Small Business Administration, the surgeon cum HUD head who already admitted he was unqualified to run a government agency, the billionaire Commerce head with a record of running deadly coal mines, the vampire squid for Treasury, an even bigger vampire squid rumored to be up for OMB, the Benghazi believer and torture lover up for CIA, the woman who has never stepped inside a public school in her life and who wants every child to do the same up for Education, the SECDEF chosen likely not because of his abilities but because his nickname is legitimately awesome, or the HHS head who wants to crush Medicare and Medicaid into a fine powder

    /not stolen, but borrowed with pride
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited December 2016
    This is why the silent majority won.
    The American liberal media is sickening.
  • You still haven't answered the question of what you think of trump's decisions in the last four weeks.
    Have you answered yet how the Russians were involved in President-elect Trumps win?
  • cottagesteezecottagesteeze St. Paul, MN Posts: 218

    This is why the silent majority won.
    The American liberal media is sickening.
    It's the silent minority actually. And the conservative media is just as bad, its not all one sided like you all seem to think here in this thread.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    CM189191 said:


    I'm not sure which is my favorite: the racist AG, the billionaire up for Secretary of Labor who has a ton of restaurants that commit wage theft, the EPA head who puppets for polluting industries, the WWE titan for Small Business Administration, the surgeon cum HUD head who already admitted he was unqualified to run a government agency, the billionaire Commerce head with a record of running deadly coal mines, the vampire squid for Treasury, an even bigger vampire squid rumored to be up for OMB, the Benghazi believer and torture lover up for CIA, the woman who has never stepped inside a public school in her life and who wants every child to do the same up for Education, the SECDEF chosen likely not because of his abilities but because his nickname is legitimately awesome, or the HHS head who wants to crush Medicare and Medicaid into a fine powder

    /not stolen, but borrowed with pride
    What does "benghazi believer" mean?
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    CM189191 said:


    I'm not sure which is my favorite: the racist AG, the billionaire up for Secretary of Labor who has a ton of restaurants that commit wage theft, the EPA head who puppets for polluting industries, the WWE titan for Small Business Administration, the surgeon cum HUD head who already admitted he was unqualified to run a government agency, the billionaire Commerce head with a record of running deadly coal mines, the vampire squid for Treasury, an even bigger vampire squid rumored to be up for OMB, the Benghazi believer and torture lover up for CIA, the woman who has never stepped inside a public school in her life and who wants every child to do the same up for Education, the SECDEF chosen likely not because of his abilities but because his nickname is legitimately awesome, or the HHS head who wants to crush Medicare and Medicaid into a fine powder

    /not stolen, but borrowed with pride
    Looks fairly accurate to me
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    BS44325 said:

    I pay zero attention to the temperament aspect...the idiotic tweets, the bluster, etc. I am not saying that isn't important but for me it is all about the decisions to date and as a conservative I generally like his appointments. I understand why progressives would hate them but for me these are competent people who will steer policy in a direction I would like to see it go. On the domestic front it is clear that he will aim to liberate businesses from the crushing taxes and regulations that prevent growth. On the international front I am a big fan of moves like the "Taiwan phone call" and I hope that type of stance combined with a quality Secretary of State selection (I'm personally hoping for Romney) allows US foreign policy to get back on the right footing. The danger for Trump from a conservative perspective will come on spending and entitlements during his term...those bills are coming due and he will be the one who has to finally confront the debt no matter how ugly that confrontation will be. Lastly he better get a handle on his personal business ties. He is correct that he is not obligated to divest but that shit creeps up over time and he will not be able to run from even the slightest notion that he is profiting off of government decisions forever. All in all though I am satisfied...I saw him as a terrible candidate with more upside potential and for me that potential is showing.
    Under Trump, red states are finally going to be able to turn themselves into poor, unhealthy paradises
    In time blue state Democrats could look forward to the satisfaction of watching Trump's voters stew in their own political juices as Red State America finally frees itself from the evil grip of global elites and big government and turns itself into a low-tax, low-wage, low health paradise where it's every man for himself.
    As H.L. Mencken once put it, “Democracy is a theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it, good and hard.”
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Russia Russia Russia
  • BS44325 said:

    What does "benghazi believer" mean?
    I believe the "Benghazi believer" is a reference to the article he posted to open his Hillary has more votes thread.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,445
    mace1229 said:

    I wouldn't say the majority does it, but I would definitely say it has happened, and quite a lot since the election.
    Scroll through the threads, you'll find quite a few posts accusing people of being racist, sexists, bigots, and much more based solely on who they voted for. What kind of free election is this if you get shamed for voting for the other party? Trump has said some stupid things, and I think you were the one who even suggested that he just talks big without thinking first, so you'd understand that people who voted for him don't like everything he says. But they are still called a bunch of shameful names anyway. To be called sexist, racist, homophobic based on your vote can be a fear tactic in today's world. People are afraid to admit they voted for him in the work place or in social groups, not because they regret it, but because the stigma the far left has placed on your vote. And that sucks. Who wants to be labeled any of those things?
    And it does swing both ways, it just seems to be swinging more from one side right now because of the election.
    I didn't like Trump, but as bad as I think he's going to be I think Clintons was worse. I have the right to that opinion. But unfortunately I would not post that on social media that could be traced back to me personally for the stigma that has been placed on it and fear of offending someone at work. I don't want to deal with that. However, voting Clinton is okay to advertise.
    It's pretty simple though. People who voted for trump voted for someone who's an admitted sex offender, has said racist things, mocked the disabled, and made a platform based on prejudice. Clinton didn't do these things. People can admit they voted for Romney or McCain relatively shame free as well. I also haven't seen a trump voter explain their opinion that he's better than Clinton by using a valid, logical comparison.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    It's pretty simple though. People who voted for trump voted for someone who's an admitted sex offender, has said racist things, mocked the disabled, and made a platform based on prejudice. Clinton didn't do these things. People can admit they voted for Romney or McCain relatively shame free as well. I also haven't seen a trump voter explain their opinion that he's better than Clinton by using a valid, logical comparison.
    You have seen it...you just don't accept it.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited December 2016
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    It's pretty simple though. People who voted for trump voted for someone who's an admitted sex offender, has said racist things, mocked the disabled, and made a platform based on prejudice. Clinton didn't do these things. People can admit they voted for Romney or McCain relatively shame free as well. I also haven't seen a trump voter explain their opinion that he's better than Clinton by using a valid, logical comparison.
    I used to watch underdog as a kid, my vote for Trump was a vote for nostalgia.
    Post edited by JC29856 on
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,445
    BS44325 said:

    You have seen it...you just don't accept it.
    I've seen logic from blatently bigoted people that align with trump's bigoted beliefs. I'm talking about the more reasonably minded trump voters.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    I've seen logic from blatently bigoted people that align with trump's bigoted beliefs. I'm talking about the more reasonably minded trump voters.
    I have presented the reasonably minded take to you countless times. You don't accept it.
  • ^^^
    The reasonably minded are called trolls until they submit to a radlib/lib.
    It's foolishness.
  • rustneversleepsrustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209

    You still haven't answered the question of what you think of trump's decisions in the last four weeks.
    i'm sure i'll start to form opinions, good or bad, once he is actually the President. i can say i like what the stock market has done in the past month. from what i remember the market was supposed to bottom out the day he was hypothetically elected. its been a near record-breaking month. looks like they were all wrong again. i like that he is seeking counsel from Barry O, and showing an early willingness to work across the aisle. of course, all of this can change. Mad Dog Mattis, General Kelly, love it. choices like Pruitt, Bannon, to name a couple, not so much.

    and to be clear, i'd love watching the right squirm just the same had the election gone the other way.
  • rustneversleepsrustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209
    dignin said:

    I like them. They look neat.
    I guess they do look pretty neat.
  • ^^^
    What appears neater?
    hillary clinton or President-elect Donald Trump
  • rustneversleepsrustneversleeps The Motel of Lost Companions Posts: 2,209

    ^^^
    What appears neater?
    hillary clinton or President-elect Donald Trump

    President-elect Donald Trump, for sure. i prefer The Don, i think.
  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    PJPOWER said:

    Don't liberals want the government to handle things for them?
    Common insult
  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431

    These are the same idiots who blame him for Katrina even though nobody ever heard of him yet. Cog dis racism is a serious mental disorder.
    It's Obama's fault for being partially black and having a Muslim name. T exists because thousands couldn't stand that
  • vaggar99vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    PJPOWER said:

    We get it, you hate white people. I, for one, love all people and would never wish for death of old people of any race or ethnicity...
  • Is this true? Do the libs/radlibs get enraged when they hear this?
    I can't tell anymore since they are fleeing AMT. Thoughts from who is left?
    "You have that long early voting in Florida, it's so long and so many things can go wrong when you have that long period of time. A long long long period. It used to be you have a day and you vote, now you go on forever, weeks and weeks," Trump said in Baton Rogue.
    "We have to discuss that early thing, that's sort of - so many things are going on, I wonder what happens in the evening when those things are locked," he added, making air-quotes with his hands as he said the word "locked."
    The comments are sure to enrage Democrats, who have aggressively pushed for expanding early voting under the argument that it allows for those who can't take time off from work or their obligations on Election Day to still participate.

    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politics/trump-questions-merits-of-early-voting/ar-AAlmJdw?li=AAadgLE&ocid=spartanntp
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 31,000
    Tillerson @ head of pack for Secretary of State slot take a look at his resume very integrated in the Russian politics ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,524
    edited December 2016
    The CIA has concluded in a secret assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election to help Donald Trump win the presidency, rather than just to undermine confidence in the U.S. electoral system, according to officials briefed on the matter.

    Intelligence agencies have identified individuals with connections to the Russian government who provided WikiLeaks with thousands of hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee and others, including Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, according to U.S. officials. Those officials described the individuals as actors known to the intelligence community and part of a wider Russian operation to boost Trump and hurt Clinton’s chances.

    “It is the assessment of the intelligence community that Russia’s goal here was to favor one candidate over the other, to help Trump get elected,” said a senior U.S. official briefed on an intelligence presentation made to U.S. senators. “That’s the consensus view.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-review-of-russian-hacking-during-presidential-campaign/2016/12/09/31d6b300-be2a-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.324b5b2419d1
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  • So much for that, "no US law enforcement agency has implicated Russia for interfering in our elections or helping get Trump elected" theory. And you Trumpeters just love it, don't you?

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-review-of-russian-hacking-during-presidential-campaign/2016/12/09/31d6b300-be2a-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_russiahack-1215p:homepage/story&utm_term=.57be427733cd
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