^^^i wasn't looking for debate. i was looking for someone to actually defend a serial liar aka as Jesus Christ. No one has of course. Some will point to Hillary, others will say they voted for Hillary but never defend her.
I have explained it on here many times but you are one who chooses not to pay attention. His supporters understood and accepted that Trump was/is making it up as he goes along. They have gambled on a non-ideologue who when push comes to shove will make the right decision based on the data places before him. There were two candidates who had trouble with the truth but it was Trump who gave the voter more potential upside.
inexcusable. you have to look at yourself if you buy into the 'Well, he was saying that just to get elected. let's now give him a chance and see what he does.'
What the fuck man? So basically he gets up there and spews the hateful shit you want to hear and you get excited about him. Of course, I don't believe it, but he's saying the stuff that everyone is thinking. Really? Like telling Hillary she's 'going to jail' in the best man voice he can conjure up and then after the election goes on 60 minutes and cries like a little bitch at the thought of locking her up. what a fucking pu$$y
As BS has stated (which you chose to ignore and rant over), this was an election for change. It is exclusively your assumption that people didn't weigh the upside potential of positive change alongside the downside potential of harmful social rhetoric, against the proven track record of Clinton's continuation of the status quo (complete with all the perceived lack of speaking for the people) without that social rhetoric. The mental math came out predominantly Trump for enough people in enough states, and any retroactive analysis of the psychology behind those votes can only be conjecture.
Also, name-calling won't get you anywhere: if you're opposed to Trump's words, why don't you practice what you preach and speak decently? For example, the term "cries like a bitch" is quite sexist - maybe you should resign from the Ten Club forums.
i will refrain from calling my fellow TC members names. I will not refrain from calling a falsely elected tyrant names. it's my civic duty
^^^i take that off, but the Superman Underoos stay what exactly makes Hillary such a disgusting liar? And why not just not vote or vote third party then vote for someone you despise so much?
can you point out where i said i "despise" her, or where i called her a "disgusting liar"? its this type of dramatic overreaction that makes radical liberals hard to stomach.
okay, i'll give you that. i suppose i was redirecting some of my frustration i've dealt with in my own circle of friends regarding the misinformation that they believe about her and perhaps government a whole.
i agree that she was a flawed candidate and i also agree that she was the best candidate for our country. Most people that have been in the public eye as long as she has are going to have some baggage. A lot of it really wasn't even her. It was her husband.
Obama spoiled us idealistic Democrats. I suppose Bernie was the next best thing. I can tell you I have a lot regret for not getting behind that guy.
^^^i wasn't looking for debate. i was looking for someone to actually defend a serial liar aka as Jesus Christ. No one has of course. Some will point to Hillary, others will say they voted for Hillary but never defend her.
I have explained it on here many times but you are one who chooses not to pay attention. His supporters understood and accepted that Trump was/is making it up as he goes along. They have gambled on a non-ideologue who when push comes to shove will make the right decision based on the data places before him. There were two candidates who had trouble with the truth but it was Trump who gave the voter more potential upside.
inexcusable. you have to look at yourself if you buy into the 'Well, he was saying that just to get elected. let's now give him a chance and see what he does.'
What the fuck man? So basically he gets up there and spews the hateful shit you want to hear and you get excited about him. Of course, I don't believe it, but he's saying the stuff that everyone is thinking. Really? Like telling Hillary she's 'going to jail' in the best man voice he can conjure up and then after the election goes on 60 minutes and cries like a little bitch at the thought of locking her up. what a fucking pu$$y
i sort of had this discussion with my sister a few days after the election and I suppose I'm still frustrated by it. She basically said the same thing and in her case I am 100% certain she's getting her viewpoint from her husband. I suppose I expect a candidate to have a legitimate platform and then and only then can you spew the hopey changey stuff that I want to hear. A platform to me is not 'build a wall', 'lock her up', 'ban muslims' and 'make America great again'. i might have missed a few, i apologize ahead of time.
^^^i wasn't looking for debate. i was looking for someone to actually defend a serial liar aka as Jesus Christ. No one has of course. Some will point to Hillary, others will say they voted for Hillary but never defend her.
I have explained it on here many times but you are one who chooses not to pay attention. His supporters understood and accepted that Trump was/is making it up as he goes along. They have gambled on a non-ideologue who when push comes to shove will make the right decision based on the data places before him. There were two candidates who had trouble with the truth but it was Trump who gave the voter more potential upside.
inexcusable. you have to look at yourself if you buy into the 'Well, he was saying that just to get elected. let's now give him a chance and see what he does.'
What the fuck man? So basically he gets up there and spews the hateful shit you want to hear and you get excited about him. Of course, I don't believe it, but he's saying the stuff that everyone is thinking. Really? Like telling Hillary she's 'going to jail' in the best man voice he can conjure up and then after the election goes on 60 minutes and cries like a little bitch at the thought of locking her up. what a fucking pu$$y
I never got excited about him but I never found anything he said to be particularly hateful. To repeat he was the terrible candidate with more potential upside for change. Your inability to process that is due to the fact that you are making the voter's decision way more complicated then it needs to be. Put the personalities aside and recognize that it was a "change" electorate. The party out of power only has to clear a small hurdle of competence for the electorate to turn. Most other details just don't matter.
A few responses. It wasn't a change electorate, first of all. The electorate actually went with Clinton. And you outline the magical thinking I was talking about earlier. There is absolutely no factual evidence that trump will make the "right decision" when he needs to. The evidence is the complete opposite. He is 100% narcissist. He makes decisions for himself only, and his history supports this. Any "upside" to trump needs to be fabricated in a trump voters head. He presented no upside in his policies or history. Airing grievances on stage has no upside. It means he appealed to you emotionally, not rationally. You're just trying to make sense of it rationally after the fact.
as you all know, i've posted dozens of links with news and video articles regarding this guys background. I have found almost no instances where this man did something genuinely good/non-selfserving for society. Not saying it hasn't happened. I just haven't found it.
And BS again lending credibility to the majority of Trump voters.
Nobody (outside of benjs apparently) is buying that. Of course there was a bloc of voters that we can a knowlege being intelligent, but the reality is Trump appealed to the simple portion of the population and the racist portion of the population.
^^^i wasn't looking for debate. i was looking for someone to actually defend a serial liar aka as Jesus Christ. No one has of course. Some will point to Hillary, others will say they voted for Hillary but never defend her.
I have explained it on here many times but you are one who chooses not to pay attention. His supporters understood and accepted that Trump was/is making it up as he goes along. They have gambled on a non-ideologue who when push comes to shove will make the right decision based on the data places before him. There were two candidates who had trouble with the truth but it was Trump who gave the voter more potential upside.
inexcusable. you have to look at yourself if you buy into the 'Well, he was saying that just to get elected. let's now give him a chance and see what he does.'
What the fuck man? So basically he gets up there and spews the hateful shit you want to hear and you get excited about him. Of course, I don't believe it, but he's saying the stuff that everyone is thinking. Really? Like telling Hillary she's 'going to jail' in the best man voice he can conjure up and then after the election goes on 60 minutes and cries like a little bitch at the thought of locking her up. what a fucking pu$$y
As BS has stated (which you chose to ignore and rant over), this was an election for change. It is exclusively your assumption that people didn't weigh the upside potential of positive change alongside the downside potential of harmful social rhetoric, against the proven track record of Clinton's continuation of the status quo (complete with all the perceived lack of speaking for the people) without that social rhetoric. The mental math came out predominantly Trump for enough people in enough states, and any retroactive analysis of the psychology behind those votes can only be conjecture.
Also, name-calling won't get you anywhere: if you're opposed to Trump's words, why don't you practice what you preach and speak decently? For example, the term "cries like a bitch" is quite sexist - maybe you should resign from the Ten Club forums.
i will refrain from calling my fellow TC members names. I will not refrain from calling a falsely elected tyrant names. it's my civic duty
Falsely elected? Again - until you can quantify the scope of Russian intervention, you cannot make this statement. The same would have applied if Clinton had won. And the term tyrant is purely subjective.
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And BS again lending credibility to the majority of Trump voters.
Nobody (outside of benjs apparently) is buying that. Of course there was a bloc of voters that we can a knowlege being intelligent, but the reality is Trump appealed to the simple portion of the population and the racist portion of the population.
yep, the piece of shit Birther Movement. Anyone who was a part of that can not ever be offended when called a racist. If there was ever proof of blatant racism, the Birther Movement was it.
And BS again lending credibility to the majority of Trump voters.
Nobody (outside of benjs apparently) is buying that. Of course there was a bloc of voters that we can a knowlege being intelligent, but the reality is Trump appealed to the simple portion of the population and the racist portion of the population.
^^^i wasn't looking for debate. i was looking for someone to actually defend a serial liar aka as Jesus Christ. No one has of course. Some will point to Hillary, others will say they voted for Hillary but never defend her.
I have explained it on here many times but you are one who chooses not to pay attention. His supporters understood and accepted that Trump was/is making it up as he goes along. They have gambled on a non-ideologue who when push comes to shove will make the right decision based on the data places before him. There were two candidates who had trouble with the truth but it was Trump who gave the voter more potential upside.
inexcusable. you have to look at yourself if you buy into the 'Well, he was saying that just to get elected. let's now give him a chance and see what he does.'
What the fuck man? So basically he gets up there and spews the hateful shit you want to hear and you get excited about him. Of course, I don't believe it, but he's saying the stuff that everyone is thinking. Really? Like telling Hillary she's 'going to jail' in the best man voice he can conjure up and then after the election goes on 60 minutes and cries like a little bitch at the thought of locking her up. what a fucking pu$$y
As BS has stated (which you chose to ignore and rant over), this was an election for change. It is exclusively your assumption that people didn't weigh the upside potential of positive change alongside the downside potential of harmful social rhetoric, against the proven track record of Clinton's continuation of the status quo (complete with all the perceived lack of speaking for the people) without that social rhetoric. The mental math came out predominantly Trump for enough people in enough states, and any retroactive analysis of the psychology behind those votes can only be conjecture.
Also, name-calling won't get you anywhere: if you're opposed to Trump's words, why don't you practice what you preach and speak decently? For example, the term "cries like a bitch" is quite sexist - maybe you should resign from the Ten Club forums.
i will refrain from calling my fellow TC members names. I will not refrain from calling a falsely elected tyrant names. it's my civic duty
Falsely elected? Again - until you can quantify the scope of Russian intervention, you cannot make this statement. The same would have applied if Clinton had won. And the term tyrant is purely subjective.
yes, it's my opinion and i'll stick to it until i see proof to the contrary. Right now, the little information I have suggests that not only did Russia spread misinformation regarding Clinton, someone(s) also committed voting fraud. Also, 'falsely elected' entails the blatant lies/manipulation perpetrated by T. and his campaign in an effort to get votes.
And BS again lending credibility to the majority of Trump voters.
Nobody (outside of benjs apparently) is buying that. Of course there was a bloc of voters that we can a knowlege being intelligent, but the reality is Trump appealed to the simple portion of the population and the racist portion of the population.
^^^i wasn't looking for debate. i was looking for someone to actually defend a serial liar aka as Jesus Christ. No one has of course. Some will point to Hillary, others will say they voted for Hillary but never defend her.
I have explained it on here many times but you are one who chooses not to pay attention. His supporters understood and accepted that Trump was/is making it up as he goes along. They have gambled on a non-ideologue who when push comes to shove will make the right decision based on the data places before him. There were two candidates who had trouble with the truth but it was Trump who gave the voter more potential upside.
inexcusable. you have to look at yourself if you buy into the 'Well, he was saying that just to get elected. let's now give him a chance and see what he does.'
What the fuck man? So basically he gets up there and spews the hateful shit you want to hear and you get excited about him. Of course, I don't believe it, but he's saying the stuff that everyone is thinking. Really? Like telling Hillary she's 'going to jail' in the best man voice he can conjure up and then after the election goes on 60 minutes and cries like a little bitch at the thought of locking her up. what a fucking pu$$y
As BS has stated (which you chose to ignore and rant over), this was an election for change. It is exclusively your assumption that people didn't weigh the upside potential of positive change alongside the downside potential of harmful social rhetoric, against the proven track record of Clinton's continuation of the status quo (complete with all the perceived lack of speaking for the people) without that social rhetoric. The mental math came out predominantly Trump for enough people in enough states, and any retroactive analysis of the psychology behind those votes can only be conjecture.
Also, name-calling won't get you anywhere: if you're opposed to Trump's words, why don't you practice what you preach and speak decently? For example, the term "cries like a bitch" is quite sexist - maybe you should resign from the Ten Club forums.
i will refrain from calling my fellow TC members names. I will not refrain from calling a falsely elected tyrant names. it's my civic duty
Falsely elected? Again - until you can quantify the scope of Russian intervention, you cannot make this statement. The same would have applied if Clinton had won. And the term tyrant is purely subjective.
yes, it's my opinion and i'll stick to it until i see proof to the contrary. Right now, the little information I have suggests that not only did Russia spread misinformation regarding Clinton, someone(s) also committed voting fraud. Also, 'falsely elected' also entails the blatant lies/manipulation perpetrated by T. and his campaign in an effort to get votes.
And BS again lending credibility to the majority of Trump voters.
Nobody (outside of benjs apparently) is buying that. Of course there was a bloc of voters that we can a knowlege being intelligent, but the reality is Trump appealed to the simple portion of the population and the racist portion of the population.
Not really. Clinton did win the college educated vote by 5%, but when you consider the race margins it more than explains her 5% lead. Her votes from educated minority were less than the minority population total. In other words, she all but took all of the minority vote, but took a smaller percentage of the educated minority (albeit still more than Trump). Her lead decreased when comparing non-educated to educated minorities. You see the reverse with educated whites though. Trump won the general white vote, and won by an even larger percentage of educated whites. His lead increased when comparing non-educated to educated whites. When you consider the minority vote always goes to the dems, but she won a smaller percentage of educated minorities it can easily be argued the issues with minorities were the greater impact than the education. And with more education she actually got less votes. You see the reverse trend for whites. So it would not be accurate to say Trump had the uneducated, or "simple" vote.
And BS again lending credibility to the majority of Trump voters.
Nobody (outside of benjs apparently) is buying that. Of course there was a bloc of voters that we can a knowlege being intelligent, but the reality is Trump appealed to the simple portion of the population and the racist portion of the population.
Not really. Clinton did win the college educated vote by 5%, but when you consider the race margins it more than explains her 5% lead. Her votes from educated minority were less than the minority population total. In other words, she all but took all of the minority vote, but took a smaller percentage of the educated minority (albeit still more than Trump). Her lead decreased when comparing non-educated to educated minorities. You see the reverse with educated whites though. Trump won the general white vote, and won by an even larger percentage of educated whites. His lead increased when comparing non-educated to educated whites. When you consider the minority vote always goes to the dems, but she won a smaller percentage of educated minorities it can easily be argued the issues with minorities were the greater impact than the education. And with more education she actually got less votes. You see the reverse trend for whites. So it would not be accurate to say Trump had the uneducated, or "simple" vote.
... and 'racist'. People that knew 'Make America Great Again' was a crock of shit liked the potential idea of a wall and the persecution of Muslims.
And BS again lending credibility to the majority of Trump voters.
Nobody (outside of benjs apparently) is buying that. Of course there was a bloc of voters that we can a knowlege being intelligent, but the reality is Trump appealed to the simple portion of the population and the racist portion of the population.
Not really. Clinton did win the college educated vote by 5%, but when you consider the race margins it more than explains her 5% lead. Her votes from educated minority were less than the minority population total. In other words, she all but took all of the minority vote, but took a smaller percentage of the educated minority (albeit still more than Trump). Her lead decreased when comparing non-educated to educated minorities. You see the reverse with educated whites though. Trump won the general white vote, and won by an even larger percentage of educated whites. His lead increased when comparing non-educated to educated whites. When you consider the minority vote always goes to the dems, but she won a smaller percentage of educated minorities it can easily be argued the issues with minorities were the greater impact than the education. And with more education she actually got less votes. You see the reverse trend for whites. So it would not be accurate to say Trump had the uneducated, or "simple" vote.
... and 'racist'. People that knew 'Make America Great Again' was a crock of shit liked the potential idea of a wall and the persecution of Muslims.
So you'd have you believe half of America is racist then. I don't believe that. Racism does exist, but its not the majority that has been spread around the last month. Whites are no more racist than any other group.
And BS again lending credibility to the majority of Trump voters.
Nobody (outside of benjs apparently) is buying that. Of course there was a bloc of voters that we can a knowlege being intelligent, but the reality is Trump appealed to the simple portion of the population and the racist portion of the population.
Not really. Clinton did win the college educated vote by 5%, but when you consider the race margins it more than explains her 5% lead. Her votes from educated minority were less than the minority population total. In other words, she all but took all of the minority vote, but took a smaller percentage of the educated minority (albeit still more than Trump). Her lead decreased when comparing non-educated to educated minorities. You see the reverse with educated whites though. Trump won the general white vote, and won by an even larger percentage of educated whites. His lead increased when comparing non-educated to educated whites. When you consider the minority vote always goes to the dems, but she won a smaller percentage of educated minorities it can easily be argued the issues with minorities were the greater impact than the education. And with more education she actually got less votes. You see the reverse trend for whites. So it would not be accurate to say Trump had the uneducated, or "simple" vote.
... and 'racist'. People that knew 'Make America Great Again' was a crock of shit liked the potential idea of a wall and the persecution of Muslims.
So you'd have you believe half of America is racist then. I don't believe that. Racism does exist, but its not the majority that has been spread around the last month. Whites are no more racist than any other group.
Probably not but as the largest percentage in the country they are the group with the most racists. If we agree with your statement that a % of all races are racists then the largest number of racists in the US are white people.
And BS again lending credibility to the majority of Trump voters.
Nobody (outside of benjs apparently) is buying that. Of course there was a bloc of voters that we can a knowlege being intelligent, but the reality is Trump appealed to the simple portion of the population and the racist portion of the population.
Not really. Clinton did win the college educated vote by 5%, but when you consider the race margins it more than explains her 5% lead. Her votes from educated minority were less than the minority population total. In other words, she all but took all of the minority vote, but took a smaller percentage of the educated minority (albeit still more than Trump). Her lead decreased when comparing non-educated to educated minorities. You see the reverse with educated whites though. Trump won the general white vote, and won by an even larger percentage of educated whites. His lead increased when comparing non-educated to educated whites. When you consider the minority vote always goes to the dems, but she won a smaller percentage of educated minorities it can easily be argued the issues with minorities were the greater impact than the education. And with more education she actually got less votes. You see the reverse trend for whites. So it would not be accurate to say Trump had the uneducated, or "simple" vote.
... and 'racist'. People that knew 'Make America Great Again' was a crock of shit liked the potential idea of a wall and the persecution of Muslims.
So you'd have you believe half of America is racist then. I don't believe that. Racism does exist, but its not the majority that has been spread around the last month. Whites are no more racist than any other group.
Probably not but as the largest percentage in the country they are the group with the most racists. If we agree with your statement that a % of all races are racists then the largest number of racists in the US are white people.
Sure, I could agree with that as long as we can agree it is an insignificant population. And I'm not talking about someone who uses the word "thug" to describe a black kid dressed like a gangbanger and that offends someone else. I'm talking about those who truly believe they are better because of their color, or that someone us less because of their color.
And BS again lending credibility to the majority of Trump voters.
Nobody (outside of benjs apparently) is buying that. Of course there was a bloc of voters that we can a knowlege being intelligent, but the reality is Trump appealed to the simple portion of the population and the racist portion of the population.
Not really. Clinton did win the college educated vote by 5%, but when you consider the race margins it more than explains her 5% lead. Her votes from educated minority were less than the minority population total. In other words, she all but took all of the minority vote, but took a smaller percentage of the educated minority (albeit still more than Trump). Her lead decreased when comparing non-educated to educated minorities. You see the reverse with educated whites though. Trump won the general white vote, and won by an even larger percentage of educated whites. His lead increased when comparing non-educated to educated whites. When you consider the minority vote always goes to the dems, but she won a smaller percentage of educated minorities it can easily be argued the issues with minorities were the greater impact than the education. And with more education she actually got less votes. You see the reverse trend for whites. So it would not be accurate to say Trump had the uneducated, or "simple" vote.
... and 'racist'. People that knew 'Make America Great Again' was a crock of shit liked the potential idea of a wall and the persecution of Muslims.
So you'd have you believe half of America is racist then. I don't believe that. Racism does exist, but its not the majority that has been spread around the last month. Whites are no more racist than any other group.
Probably not but as the largest percentage in the country they are the group with the most racists. If we agree with your statement that a % of all races are racists then the largest number of racists in the US are white people.
Sure, I could agree with that as long as we can agree it is an insignificant population. And I'm not talking about someone who uses the word "thug" to describe a black kid dressed like a gangbanger and that offends someone else. I'm talking about those who truly believe they are better because of their color, or that someone us less because of their color.
And then you must include the number who were indifferent that racists were attracted to Trump. Indifferent doesn't make them racist but turning a blind eye has its problems as well.
And BS again lending credibility to the majority of Trump voters.
Nobody (outside of benjs apparently) is buying that. Of course there was a bloc of voters that we can a knowlege being intelligent, but the reality is Trump appealed to the simple portion of the population and the racist portion of the population.
Not really. Clinton did win the college educated vote by 5%, but when you consider the race margins it more than explains her 5% lead. Her votes from educated minority were less than the minority population total. In other words, she all but took all of the minority vote, but took a smaller percentage of the educated minority (albeit still more than Trump). Her lead decreased when comparing non-educated to educated minorities. You see the reverse with educated whites though. Trump won the general white vote, and won by an even larger percentage of educated whites. His lead increased when comparing non-educated to educated whites. When you consider the minority vote always goes to the dems, but she won a smaller percentage of educated minorities it can easily be argued the issues with minorities were the greater impact than the education. And with more education she actually got less votes. You see the reverse trend for whites. So it would not be accurate to say Trump had the uneducated, or "simple" vote.
... and 'racist'. People that knew 'Make America Great Again' was a crock of shit liked the potential idea of a wall and the persecution of Muslims.
So you'd have you believe half of America is racist then. I don't believe that. Racism does exist, but its not the majority that has been spread around the last month. Whites are no more racist than any other group.
Probably not but as the largest percentage in the country they are the group with the most racists. If we agree with your statement that a % of all races are racists then the largest number of racists in the US are white people.
Sure, I could agree with that as long as we can agree it is an insignificant population. And I'm not talking about someone who uses the word "thug" to describe a black kid dressed like a gangbanger and that offends someone else. I'm talking about those who truly believe they are better because of their color, or that someone us less because of their color.
You're focusing on blatant racists. Instead, think about the group that has less self awareness about their own prejudice. Trumps message was built around fear and ignorance, and fear and ignorance is the foundation of prejudice. So that's the connection between trump and racism that conservatives aren't really picking up on.
And BS again lending credibility to the majority of Trump voters.
Nobody (outside of benjs apparently) is buying that. Of course there was a bloc of voters that we can a knowlege being intelligent, but the reality is Trump appealed to the simple portion of the population and the racist portion of the population.
Not really. Clinton did win the college educated vote by 5%, but when you consider the race margins it more than explains her 5% lead. Her votes from educated minority were less than the minority population total. In other words, she all but took all of the minority vote, but took a smaller percentage of the educated minority (albeit still more than Trump). Her lead decreased when comparing non-educated to educated minorities. You see the reverse with educated whites though. Trump won the general white vote, and won by an even larger percentage of educated whites. His lead increased when comparing non-educated to educated whites. When you consider the minority vote always goes to the dems, but she won a smaller percentage of educated minorities it can easily be argued the issues with minorities were the greater impact than the education. And with more education she actually got less votes. You see the reverse trend for whites. So it would not be accurate to say Trump had the uneducated, or "simple" vote.
... and 'racist'. People that knew 'Make America Great Again' was a crock of shit liked the potential idea of a wall and the persecution of Muslims.
So you'd have you believe half of America is racist then. I don't believe that. Racism does exist, but its not the majority that has been spread around the last month. Whites are no more racist than any other group.
Probably not but as the largest percentage in the country they are the group with the most racists. If we agree with your statement that a % of all races are racists then the largest number of racists in the US are white people.
Sure, I could agree with that as long as we can agree it is an insignificant population. And I'm not talking about someone who uses the word "thug" to describe a black kid dressed like a gangbanger and that offends someone else. I'm talking about those who truly believe they are better because of their color, or that someone us less because of their color.
You're focusing on blatant racists. Instead, think about the group that has less self awareness about their own prejudice. Trumps message was built around fear and ignorance, and fear and ignorance is the foundation of prejudice. So that's the connection between trump and racism that conservatives aren't really picking up on.
And BS again lending credibility to the majority of Trump voters.
Nobody (outside of benjs apparently) is buying that. Of course there was a bloc of voters that we can a knowlege being intelligent, but the reality is Trump appealed to the simple portion of the population and the racist portion of the population.
Not really. Clinton did win the college educated vote by 5%, but when you consider the race margins it more than explains her 5% lead. Her votes from educated minority were less than the minority population total. In other words, she all but took all of the minority vote, but took a smaller percentage of the educated minority (albeit still more than Trump). Her lead decreased when comparing non-educated to educated minorities. You see the reverse with educated whites though. Trump won the general white vote, and won by an even larger percentage of educated whites. His lead increased when comparing non-educated to educated whites. When you consider the minority vote always goes to the dems, but she won a smaller percentage of educated minorities it can easily be argued the issues with minorities were the greater impact than the education. And with more education she actually got less votes. You see the reverse trend for whites. So it would not be accurate to say Trump had the uneducated, or "simple" vote.
... and 'racist'. People that knew 'Make America Great Again' was a crock of shit liked the potential idea of a wall and the persecution of Muslims.
So you'd have you believe half of America is racist then. I don't believe that. Racism does exist, but its not the majority that has been spread around the last month. Whites are no more racist than any other group.
Probably not but as the largest percentage in the country they are the group with the most racists. If we agree with your statement that a % of all races are racists then the largest number of racists in the US are white people.
Sure, I could agree with that as long as we can agree it is an insignificant population. And I'm not talking about someone who uses the word "thug" to describe a black kid dressed like a gangbanger and that offends someone else. I'm talking about those who truly believe they are better because of their color, or that someone us less because of their color.
You're focusing on blatant racists. Instead, think about the group that has less self awareness about their own prejudice. Trumps message was built around fear and ignorance, and fear and ignorance is the foundation of prejudice. So that's the connection between trump and racism that conservatives aren't really picking up on.
What was the message of fear?
Well, I guess we could start with where his campaign literally kicked off- that Mexicans are rapists and drug dealers. That's fear 101.
And BS again lending credibility to the majority of Trump voters.
Nobody (outside of benjs apparently) is buying that. Of course there was a bloc of voters that we can a knowlege being intelligent, but the reality is Trump appealed to the simple portion of the population and the racist portion of the population.
Not really. Clinton did win the college educated vote by 5%, but when you consider the race margins it more than explains her 5% lead. Her votes from educated minority were less than the minority population total. In other words, she all but took all of the minority vote, but took a smaller percentage of the educated minority (albeit still more than Trump). Her lead decreased when comparing non-educated to educated minorities. You see the reverse with educated whites though. Trump won the general white vote, and won by an even larger percentage of educated whites. His lead increased when comparing non-educated to educated whites. When you consider the minority vote always goes to the dems, but she won a smaller percentage of educated minorities it can easily be argued the issues with minorities were the greater impact than the education. And with more education she actually got less votes. You see the reverse trend for whites. So it would not be accurate to say Trump had the uneducated, or "simple" vote.
... and 'racist'. People that knew 'Make America Great Again' was a crock of shit liked the potential idea of a wall and the persecution of Muslims.
So you'd have you believe half of America is racist then. I don't believe that. Racism does exist, but its not the majority that has been spread around the last month. Whites are no more racist than any other group.
Probably not but as the largest percentage in the country they are the group with the most racists. If we agree with your statement that a % of all races are racists then the largest number of racists in the US are white people.
Sure, I could agree with that as long as we can agree it is an insignificant population. And I'm not talking about someone who uses the word "thug" to describe a black kid dressed like a gangbanger and that offends someone else. I'm talking about those who truly believe they are better because of their color, or that someone us less because of their color.
You're focusing on blatant racists. Instead, think about the group that has less self awareness about their own prejudice. Trumps message was built around fear and ignorance, and fear and ignorance is the foundation of prejudice. So that's the connection between trump and racism that conservatives aren't really picking up on.
What was the message of fear?
Fear based generalizations about Muslims and Mexicans were built into his policy. Any reference to things being too PC is fear based in that it's an attempt to say that free speech is somehow restricted. "Make America great again" is also fear and ignorance based because it's saying things are worse and will continue to get worse if he's not elected.
And BS again lending credibility to the majority of Trump voters.
Nobody (outside of benjs apparently) is buying that. Of course there was a bloc of voters that we can a knowlege being intelligent, but the reality is Trump appealed to the simple portion of the population and the racist portion of the population.
Not really. Clinton did win the college educated vote by 5%, but when you consider the race margins it more than explains her 5% lead. Her votes from educated minority were less than the minority population total. In other words, she all but took all of the minority vote, but took a smaller percentage of the educated minority (albeit still more than Trump). Her lead decreased when comparing non-educated to educated minorities. You see the reverse with educated whites though. Trump won the general white vote, and won by an even larger percentage of educated whites. His lead increased when comparing non-educated to educated whites. When you consider the minority vote always goes to the dems, but she won a smaller percentage of educated minorities it can easily be argued the issues with minorities were the greater impact than the education. And with more education she actually got less votes. You see the reverse trend for whites. So it would not be accurate to say Trump had the uneducated, or "simple" vote.
... and 'racist'. People that knew 'Make America Great Again' was a crock of shit liked the potential idea of a wall and the persecution of Muslims.
So you'd have you believe half of America is racist then. I don't believe that. Racism does exist, but its not the majority that has been spread around the last month. Whites are no more racist than any other group.
Probably not but as the largest percentage in the country they are the group with the most racists. If we agree with your statement that a % of all races are racists then the largest number of racists in the US are white people.
Sure, I could agree with that as long as we can agree it is an insignificant population. And I'm not talking about someone who uses the word "thug" to describe a black kid dressed like a gangbanger and that offends someone else. I'm talking about those who truly believe they are better because of their color, or that someone us less because of their color.
You're focusing on blatant racists. Instead, think about the group that has less self awareness about their own prejudice. Trumps message was built around fear and ignorance, and fear and ignorance is the foundation of prejudice. So that's the connection between trump and racism that conservatives aren't really picking up on.
What was the message of fear?
Well, I guess we could start with where his campaign literally kicked off- that Mexicans are rapists and drug dealers. That's fear 101.
And the other campaign has taken so much of what he said out of context or added meaning to it. His comments about rapists and drug dealers were in response to Kate's Law, a law that protects violent illegal aliens with a criminal record, and during discussions of the ridiculousness that are sanctuary cities that protect these violent people. He wasn't very crafty with his words, but he never said they "only" send rapists and murders over, and he never sad he's going to send all Mexicans back. But these falsehoods have been repeated a thousand times. Talk about fake news..... His comments were surrounding an intense conversation about how violent illegals get released back into society to rape and murder again, and started the Kate's Law movement. The fact such a violent criminal was deported 5 times with essentially zero consequence is ridiculous.
Fear tactic 101 would be accusing an entire group of people for being racists based on who they voted for.
And BS again lending credibility to the majority of Trump voters.
Nobody (outside of benjs apparently) is buying that. Of course there was a bloc of voters that we can a knowlege being intelligent, but the reality is Trump appealed to the simple portion of the population and the racist portion of the population.
Not really. Clinton did win the college educated vote by 5%, but when you consider the race margins it more than explains her 5% lead. Her votes from educated minority were less than the minority population total. In other words, she all but took all of the minority vote, but took a smaller percentage of the educated minority (albeit still more than Trump). Her lead decreased when comparing non-educated to educated minorities. You see the reverse with educated whites though. Trump won the general white vote, and won by an even larger percentage of educated whites. His lead increased when comparing non-educated to educated whites. When you consider the minority vote always goes to the dems, but she won a smaller percentage of educated minorities it can easily be argued the issues with minorities were the greater impact than the education. And with more education she actually got less votes. You see the reverse trend for whites. So it would not be accurate to say Trump had the uneducated, or "simple" vote.
... and 'racist'. People that knew 'Make America Great Again' was a crock of shit liked the potential idea of a wall and the persecution of Muslims.
So you'd have you believe half of America is racist then. I don't believe that. Racism does exist, but its not the majority that has been spread around the last month. Whites are no more racist than any other group.
Probably not but as the largest percentage in the country they are the group with the most racists. If we agree with your statement that a % of all races are racists then the largest number of racists in the US are white people.
Sure, I could agree with that as long as we can agree it is an insignificant population. And I'm not talking about someone who uses the word "thug" to describe a black kid dressed like a gangbanger and that offends someone else. I'm talking about those who truly believe they are better because of their color, or that someone us less because of their color.
You're focusing on blatant racists. Instead, think about the group that has less self awareness about their own prejudice. Trumps message was built around fear and ignorance, and fear and ignorance is the foundation of prejudice. So that's the connection between trump and racism that conservatives aren't really picking up on.
What was the message of fear?
Fear based generalizations about Muslims and Mexicans were built into his policy. Any reference to things being too PC is fear based in that it's an attempt to say that free speech is somehow restricted. "Make America great again" is also fear and ignorance based because it's saying things are worse and will continue to get worse if he's not elected.
So saying you're going to improve government is a fear tactic? Yeah, I'd vote for the guy who says "lets screw things up some more"....
I was so scared when Obama ran on improving health care, look at how many people fell for his scare tactic.
Pulling the classic Russell... But I'll address anyway. Trump was elected bec people fear rapist drug dealing Mexicans and terrorist Muslims?
You're trying to make something that's grey very black and white, so I'm not sure this will work very well. There's a large enough group of whites who feel that non-whites and basically outsiders are a threat to their way of life. There's a push back from them as minority groups have gained more equality. They're afraid of whites becoming a minority in the future. Difficulties in their life are seen as a result of people who are different taking things away from them, both socially and economically. Trump engaged this group with emotional manipulation with the policies I mentioned earlier, as well as others. He made an external enemy for voters, and these voters also perpetuated and believed total mistruths (Hillary wants open borders, our country is worse off in the last 8 years, etc).
And BS again lending credibility to the majority of Trump voters.
Nobody (outside of benjs apparently) is buying that. Of course there was a bloc of voters that we can a knowlege being intelligent, but the reality is Trump appealed to the simple portion of the population and the racist portion of the population.
Not really. Clinton did win the college educated vote by 5%, but when you consider the race margins it more than explains her 5% lead. Her votes from educated minority were less than the minority population total. In other words, she all but took all of the minority vote, but took a smaller percentage of the educated minority (albeit still more than Trump). Her lead decreased when comparing non-educated to educated minorities. You see the reverse with educated whites though. Trump won the general white vote, and won by an even larger percentage of educated whites. His lead increased when comparing non-educated to educated whites. When you consider the minority vote always goes to the dems, but she won a smaller percentage of educated minorities it can easily be argued the issues with minorities were the greater impact than the education. And with more education she actually got less votes. You see the reverse trend for whites. So it would not be accurate to say Trump had the uneducated, or "simple" vote.
... and 'racist'. People that knew 'Make America Great Again' was a crock of shit liked the potential idea of a wall and the persecution of Muslims.
So you'd have you believe half of America is racist then. I don't believe that. Racism does exist, but its not the majority that has been spread around the last month. Whites are no more racist than any other group.
Gee I can't believe I'm explaining this one more time.
I'm saying that half your country is average to less than average intelligence (which is no screaming hell). And... there are many racist people as well.
The amount of dummies and racists made up a significant voting bloc.
Pulling the classic Russell... But I'll address anyway. Trump was elected bec people fear rapist drug dealing Mexicans and terrorist Muslims?
You're trying to make something that's grey very black and white, so I'm not sure this will work very well. There's a large enough group of whites who feel that non-whites and basically outsiders are a threat to their way of life. There's a push back from them as minority groups have gained more equality. They're afraid of whites becoming a minority in the future. Difficulties in their life are seen as a result of people who are different taking things away from them, both socially and economically. Trump engaged this group with emotional manipulation with the policies I mentioned earlier, as well as others. He made an external enemy for voters, and these voters also perpetuated and believed total mistruths (Hillary wants open borders, our country is worse off in the last 8 years, etc).
The turning grey to black is exactly what screaming racism misogynist sexism etc etc etc is!!! Serious?
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Trump Once (Wrongly) Criticized Obama for Not Attending Intel Briefings
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-once-wrongly-criticized-obama-not-attending-intel-briefings-n694631
Granted this guy makes his home in Telluride and everybody I met there in July was high as a kite....Myself included.
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i agree that she was a flawed candidate and i also agree that she was the best candidate for our country. Most people that have been in the public eye as long as she has are going to have some baggage. A lot of it really wasn't even her. It was her husband.
Obama spoiled us idealistic Democrats. I suppose Bernie was the next best thing. I can tell you I have a lot regret for not getting behind that guy.
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You see the reverse with educated whites though. Trump won the general white vote, and won by an even larger percentage of educated whites. His lead increased when comparing non-educated to educated whites.
When you consider the minority vote always goes to the dems, but she won a smaller percentage of educated minorities it can easily be argued the issues with minorities were the greater impact than the education. And with more education she actually got less votes. You see the reverse trend for whites. So it would not be accurate to say Trump had the uneducated, or "simple" vote.
Racism does exist, but its not the majority that has been spread around the last month. Whites are no more racist than any other group.
And I'm not talking about someone who uses the word "thug" to describe a black kid dressed like a gangbanger and that offends someone else. I'm talking about those who truly believe they are better because of their color, or that someone us less because of their color.
That's fear 101.
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Trump was elected bec people fear rapist drug dealing Mexicans and terrorist Muslims?
He wasn't very crafty with his words, but he never said they "only" send rapists and murders over, and he never sad he's going to send all Mexicans back. But these falsehoods have been repeated a thousand times. Talk about fake news.....
His comments were surrounding an intense conversation about how violent illegals get released back into society to rape and murder again, and started the Kate's Law movement. The fact such a violent criminal was deported 5 times with essentially zero consequence is ridiculous.
Fear tactic 101 would be accusing an entire group of people for being racists based on who they voted for.
Yeah, I'd vote for the guy who says "lets screw things up some more"....
I was so scared when Obama ran on improving health care, look at how many people fell for his scare tactic.
I'm saying that half your country is average to less than average intelligence (which is no screaming hell). And... there are many racist people as well.
The amount of dummies and racists made up a significant voting bloc.
Serious?