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  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,823
    pjhawks said:

    And I was at a fund raiser last night for our baseball team's trip to Cooperstown. All sports fans. Asked all of the other dads what they thought of the 1st down call and it was split pretty much down the middle on "he made it" or "no way was that a first down."
    I thought he made it, personally.

    didn't the rules guy on the telecast say that forward progress can't be stopped by your own teammate? thought i heard him say that but they just glanced over it and moved on. so while hitting his teammates ass was at the point a 1st down i think the mark actually should have been further back where he ended up after the fall. that being said Michigan choked. the QB fumble inside the 5 was a killer. they were in control at that point and OSU couldn't move the ball. either way I think both coaches are pretty unlikable guys.

    the winner of the Big 10 title game should be in the final 4. how can you have a conference with 4 teams in the top 8 and the title winner doesn't get in the final 4? that makes no sense.
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  • mickeyrat
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    pjhawks said:

    And I was at a fund raiser last night for our baseball team's trip to Cooperstown. All sports fans. Asked all of the other dads what they thought of the 1st down call and it was split pretty much down the middle on "he made it" or "no way was that a first down."
    I thought he made it, personally.

    didn't the rules guy on the telecast say that forward progress can't be stopped by your own teammate? thought i heard him say that but they just glanced over it and moved on. so while hitting his teammates ass was at the point a 1st down i think the mark actually should have been further back where he ended up after the fall. that being said Michigan choked. the QB fumble inside the 5 was a killer. they were in control at that point and OSU couldn't move the ball. either way I think both coaches are pretty unlikable guys.

    the winner of the Big 10 title game should be in the final 4. how can you have a conference with 4 teams in the top 8 and the title winner doesn't get in the final 4? that makes no sense.
    so you concede his forward progress when hitting teammate gave him the first, but believe it should have been marked where he fell? please, explain that further would you? I dont follow your logic.
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  • Indifference71
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    pjhawks said:

    And I was at a fund raiser last night for our baseball team's trip to Cooperstown. All sports fans. Asked all of the other dads what they thought of the 1st down call and it was split pretty much down the middle on "he made it" or "no way was that a first down."
    I thought he made it, personally.



    the winner of the Big 10 title game should be in the final 4. how can you have a conference with 4 teams in the top 8 and the title winner doesn't get in the final 4? that makes no sense.
    Because with this ridiculous system they have set up, a conference championship doesn't mean shit. It's the "best 4" teams. I said it earlier in the thread....should be an 8 team playoff with the 5 conf champs from the power 5 conferences and 3 at large bids. They finally do a playoff and can't even get that right. The NCAA is the worst.
  • Wobbie
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    pjhawks said:

    And I was at a fund raiser last night for our baseball team's trip to Cooperstown. All sports fans. Asked all of the other dads what they thought of the 1st down call and it was split pretty much down the middle on "he made it" or "no way was that a first down."
    I thought he made it, personally.

    either way I think both coaches are pretty unlikable guys.

    the winner of the Big 10 title game should be in the final 4. how can you have a conference with 4 teams in the top 8 and the title winner doesn't get in the final 4? that makes no sense.
    you're half right about the first thing :wink:

    conference championship games are kind of fucked when one half of the conference (big 10 east, alabama) is so much better than the other.

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  • lolobugg
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    Hey Auburn............... :loser:

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  • pureoc
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    pjhawks said:

    And I was at a fund raiser last night for our baseball team's trip to Cooperstown. All sports fans. Asked all of the other dads what they thought of the 1st down call and it was split pretty much down the middle on "he made it" or "no way was that a first down."
    I thought he made it, personally.



    the winner of the Big 10 title game should be in the final 4. how can you have a conference with 4 teams in the top 8 and the title winner doesn't get in the final 4? that makes no sense.
    Because with this ridiculous system they have set up, a conference championship doesn't mean shit. It's the "best 4" teams. I said it earlier in the thread....should be an 8 team playoff with the 5 conf champs from the power 5 conferences and 3 at large bids. They finally do a playoff and can't even get that right. The NCAA is the worst.
    Only way a non conf champ, essentially a wild card team like osu is, should get in the playoff is if the big ten conf champ is as well.

    Name me any other sport where the 2nd or 3rd place team makes the playoffs and the 1st place team doesn't? The wild card team may make it further in the playoff but under no circumstance should the team that didn't win the conference or div play for the sports ultimate title unless the div/conf champ gets that opportunity as well.
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  • Wobbie
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    ^^^^ they are looking for the "four best" teams. very subjective.

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  • F Me In The Brain
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    Interesting, of course, to see how this plays out...since half of the "four best teams" may not be conference champs.
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  • lolobugg
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    right now.......

    1. Bama
    2. OSU
    3. Clemson
    4. Washington

    things could change if Washington or Clemson lose..........then I would say put in the Big 10 champ.

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  • Empty Glass
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    lolobugg said:

    right now.......

    1. Bama
    2. OSU
    3. Clemson
    4. Washington

    things could change if Washington or Clemson lose..........then I would say put in the Big 10 champ.

    Yeah, leave the Champ of the best conference out. You must be from down south
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  • F Me In The Brain
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    lolobugg said:

    right now.......

    1. Bama
    2. OSU
    3. Clemson
    4. Washington

    things could change if Washington or Clemson lose..........then I would say put in the Big 10 champ.

    Yeah, leave the Champ of the best conference out. You must be from down south
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  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195

    lolobugg said:

    right now.......

    1. Bama
    2. OSU
    3. Clemson
    4. Washington

    things could change if Washington or Clemson lose..........then I would say put in the Big 10 champ.

    Yeah, leave the Champ of the best conference out. You must be from down south
    Empty, you better listen to F'Me. be careful what you wish for.

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    2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA

    2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)

    2006- Cincinnati, OH

    2008- Columbia, SC

    2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2

    2010- Bristow, VA

    2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL

    2012- Atlanta, GA

    2013- Charlotte, NC

    2014- Cincinnati, OH

    2015- New York, NY

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    2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2

    2020- Nashville, TN 

    2022- Smashville 

    2023- Austin, TX x2

    2024- Baltimore

  • Empty Glass
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    lolobugg said:

    lolobugg said:

    right now.......

    1. Bama
    2. OSU
    3. Clemson
    4. Washington

    things could change if Washington or Clemson lose..........then I would say put in the Big 10 champ.

    Yeah, leave the Champ of the best conference out. You must be from down south
    Empty, you better listen to F'Me. be careful what you wish for.
    I want no part of that playoff. (Unless we can sneak up to #3 :lol:)

    Fuck Clemson
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  • lolobugg said:

    right now.......

    1. Bama
    2. OSU
    3. Clemson
    4. Washington

    things could change if Washington or Clemson lose..........then I would say put in the Big 10 champ.

    What the fuck is Clemson doing at #3, those fuckers do not deserve to be there.
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  • lolobugg said:

    right now.......

    1. Bama
    2. OSU
    3. Clemson
    4. Washington

    things could change if Washington or Clemson lose..........then I would say put in the Big 10 champ.

    What the fuck is Clemson doing at #3, those fuckers do not deserve to be there.
    Why not? They've lost once.
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  • lolobugg said:

    right now.......

    1. Bama
    2. OSU
    3. Clemson
    4. Washington

    things could change if Washington or Clemson lose..........then I would say put in the Big 10 champ.

    What the fuck is Clemson doing at #3, those fuckers do not deserve to be there.
    Why not? They've lost once.
    Look at who they've played, the competition isn't there at the same level at all.
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  • lolobugg said:

    right now.......

    1. Bama
    2. OSU
    3. Clemson
    4. Washington

    things could change if Washington or Clemson lose..........then I would say put in the Big 10 champ.

    What the fuck is Clemson doing at #3, those fuckers do not deserve to be there.
    Why not? They've lost once.
    Look at who they've played, the competition isn't there at the same level at all.
    Compared to who? You can't help how good or bad your conference teams are. They played Auburn, Florida state, Louisville. That's a poor reason to say a team doesn't deserve to be in the top 4. But what can you expect from a Canadian that thinks the CFL is better than the nfl.
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491

    lolobugg said:

    right now.......

    1. Bama
    2. OSU
    3. Clemson
    4. Washington

    things could change if Washington or Clemson lose..........then I would say put in the Big 10 champ.

    What the fuck is Clemson doing at #3, those fuckers do not deserve to be there.
    Why not? They've lost once.
    Look at who they've played, the competition isn't there at the same level at all.
    Compared to who? You can't help how good or bad your conference teams are. They played Auburn, Florida state, Louisville. That's a poor reason to say a team doesn't deserve to be in the top 4. But what can you expect from a Canadian that thinks the CFL is better than the nfl.
    Yeah, Clemson's competition is no worse than Alabama's or Washington's.
  • Indifference71
    Indifference71 Chicago Posts: 14,913
    pureoc said:

    pjhawks said:

    And I was at a fund raiser last night for our baseball team's trip to Cooperstown. All sports fans. Asked all of the other dads what they thought of the 1st down call and it was split pretty much down the middle on "he made it" or "no way was that a first down."
    I thought he made it, personally.



    the winner of the Big 10 title game should be in the final 4. how can you have a conference with 4 teams in the top 8 and the title winner doesn't get in the final 4? that makes no sense.
    Because with this ridiculous system they have set up, a conference championship doesn't mean shit. It's the "best 4" teams. I said it earlier in the thread....should be an 8 team playoff with the 5 conf champs from the power 5 conferences and 3 at large bids. They finally do a playoff and can't even get that right. The NCAA is the worst.
    Only way a non conf champ, essentially a wild card team like osu is, should get in the playoff is if the big ten conf champ is as well.

    Name me any other sport where the 2nd or 3rd place team makes the playoffs and the 1st place team doesn't? The wild card team may make it further in the playoff but under no circumstance should the team that didn't win the conference or div play for the sports ultimate title unless the div/conf champ gets that opportunity as well.
    I can't name any other sport....because that's how fucking stupid college football is. If the committee or whatever they hell they call themselves are supposed to pick the best 4 teams to be in the playoff, then OSU has to be in it. Like I said earlier, this current system does not value conference champions. Conference championship games are for $$$. Plain and simple.