Why wouldn't they? With the deal they have it makes sense to be a bs team without a conference.
Pac12 is such a joke. Now we have a new leader but not being able to grab these teams and pony up to try and keep up is a big loss.
Surprised Oklahoma wants to join. They have it made where they are and are pretty much granted an auto bid to playoffs. With Texas out they would really be in the best seat
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Why wouldn't they? With the deal they have it makes sense to be a bs team without a conference.
Pac12 is such a joke. Now we have a new leader but not being able to grab these teams and pony up to try and keep up is a big loss.
Surprised Oklahoma wants to join. They have it made where they are and are pretty much granted an auto bid to playoffs. With Texas out they would really be in the best seat
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Yeah, buddy! Even though the Pac12 is a joke and Clay Felchton is a goddamn joke I still can't wait to watch and get mad at the team. .
I hope they do, but I think if the Texas/OU move happens, it will muddy thr waters.
If these "super-confrences" happen, I think they will almost have to join the ACC or another conference.
It does seem like they will eventually have to join one. Sooner than later I assume. SEC adding OU and Texas is a huge flex. Would not be surprised to see B1G or ACC make a huge push to add ND in the coming years. I'm not opposed to it, but I also don't fault them for staying Independent. As Brett noted, why wouldn't they at this point?
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I hope they do, but I think if the Texas/OU move happens, it will muddy thr waters.
If these "super-confrences" happen, I think they will almost have to join the ACC or another conference.
It does seem like they will eventually have to join one. Sooner than later I assume. SEC adding OU and Texas is a huge flex. Would not be surprised to see B1G or ACC make a huge push to add ND in the coming years. I'm not opposed to it, but I also don't fault them for staying Independent. As Brett noted, why wouldn't they at this point?
If ND football decides to join a conference in the next 15 years it'll be with the ACC. It was written in their contract when all of their other sports joined the ACC a few years ago.
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I think we see with Oklahoma and Texas that the contracts don't mean much - they are happy to buy out if the money is right. (ACC seems like the right spot for ND, though.)
The lack of a conference championship game is going to eventually hurt them. For a final spot (assuming they stay at 4 teams), are you taking a 10-2 ND team with wins over Toledo, Navy and Cincy (they are good some years) or a 10-3 SEC team that lost in championship game?
The lack of a conference championship game is going to eventually hurt them. For a final spot (assuming they stay at 4 teams), are you taking a 10-2 ND team with wins over Toledo, Navy and Cincy (they are good some years) or a 10-3 SEC team that lost in championship game?
SEC team everytime.
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The lack of a conference championship game is going to eventually hurt them. For a final spot (assuming they stay at 4 teams), are you taking a 10-2 ND team with wins over Toledo, Navy and Cincy (they are good some years) or a 10-3 SEC team that lost in championship game?
SEC team everytime.
Same argument can be made for B1G, ACC or PAC12. ND has a strength of schedule issue in my opinion (which doesn't mean much) if they want to remain independent.
The lack of a conference championship game is going to eventually hurt them. For a final spot (assuming they stay at 4 teams), are you taking a 10-2 ND team with wins over Toledo, Navy and Cincy (they are good some years) or a 10-3 SEC team that lost in championship game?
SEC team everytime.
Same argument can be made for B1G, ACC or PAC12. ND has a strength of schedule issue in my opinion (which doesn't mean much). They need to beef it up if they want to remain independant.
When the 12 team playoff starts, I wouldn't be surprised to see atleast 3 maybe 4 teams from SEC in it on a regular basis. ACC only has Clemson. Big 10 has Ohio State and occasionally Penn State & Wisconsin have good seasons. Pac 12 has Oregon and sometimes USC will have a decent season. It'll be fun to see which other programs can step up.
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This will be interesting to see how it impacts the natural cycles of college football power. There were years where many teams that are great now were normal or just ok teams. Up and down is normal....but will it stay that way of they go power conferences?
(Reading the post above highlights this. Michigan is not mentioned. This is a college football powerhouse. Oregon is mentioned and they are barely a blip on the radar, historically. They were mostly awful. ACC - FSU and Miami have better histories than Clemson. SEC has always been great....but the teams that are great change. (Before Saban, at least!))
8/28/98- Camden, NJ
10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Tres Mts.- 3/23/11- Philly. PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
went to the Ute game last night. lightning caused the stands to be evacuated. a super spreader event ensued. steve smith and alex smith we’re in attendance.
watched THEosu on my phone. a little to close for comfort.
If I had known then what I know now...
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Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
He executed the joke so terribly that the announcers had to provide cover.
He could have said... "There was a great coach named John McKay who was once asked how he felt about his team's execution and he replied 'I'm all for it!'. Well I understand how he felt. We need to get better, blah blah blah. "
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If these "super-confrences" happen, I think they will almost have to join the ACC or another conference.
Even though the Pac12 is a joke and Clay Felchton is a goddamn joke I still can't wait to watch and get mad at the team.
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But based on the current format, no conference affiliation hurts them. Not sure when playoff format would change, 2023?
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Up and down is normal....but will it stay that way of they go power conferences?
(Reading the post above highlights this. Michigan is not mentioned. This is a college football powerhouse. Oregon is mentioned and they are barely a blip on the radar, historically. They were mostly awful. ACC - FSU and Miami have better histories than Clemson. SEC has always been great....but the teams that are great change. (Before Saban, at least!))
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pic.twitter.com/Jocwe6wYcq— Blake Skaggs (@SkaggsOB) July 28, 2021 ">10/31/09- Philly
5/21/10- NYC
9/2/12- Philly, PA
7/19/13- Wrigley
10/19/13- Brooklyn, NY
10/21/13- Philly, PA
10/22/13- Philly, PA
10/27/13- Baltimore, MD
4/28/16- Philly, PA
4/29/16- Philly, PA
5/1/16- NYC
5/2/16- NYC
9/2/18- Boston, MA
9/4/18- Boston, MA
9/14/22- Camden, NJ
9/7/24- Philly, PA
9/9/24- Philly, PA
Eddie Vedder- 6/25/11- Philly, PA
RNDM- 3/9/16- Philly, PA
went to the Ute game last night. lightning caused the stands to be evacuated. a super spreader event ensued. steve smith and alex smith we’re in attendance.
watched THEosu on my phone. a little to close for comfort.
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Vegas 93, Vegas 98, Vegas 00 (10 year show), Vegas 03, Vegas 06
VIC 07
EV LA1 08
Seattle1 09, Seattle2 09, Salt Lake 09, LA4 09
Columbus 10
EV LA 11
Vancouver 11
Missoula 12
Portland 13, Spokane 13
St. Paul 14, Denver 14
Happy to see them lose.
Stick to hoops, folks.
As much as I love to hate on Notre Dame, Brian Kelly trying to quote John McKay is awesome on a few levels.
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/32157718/notre-dame-fighting-irish-coach-brian-kelly-says-was-joking-attempting-echo-john-mckay-execution-quote
He could have said... "There was a great coach named John McKay who was once asked how he felt about his team's execution and he replied 'I'm all for it!'. Well I understand how he felt. We need to get better, blah blah blah. "