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F Me In The Brain

mrussel1 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

mrussel1 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

Ha.  Relocate away from the Rose Bowl - CFP with the money move.  Nothing else matters!

Scumbags.

Money move because they don't want a public fight with ND?

Are you joking?
Notre Dame wouldn't deny an invitation no matter what.
All posturing, which is both useful in recruiting and impressive.

I hate the CFP but the idea that they are afraid of ND is laughable.

The reason why it is a money move is obvious.
They will say it is about a few hundred and then thousands and thousands will attend....well, because it is TX.

Meh.  How many people are they letting in? Now you need ushers,  some concessions,  etc.  Stadium takes its cut.  It feels like a rounding error in the NCAA balance sheet. Not a lot money. 

It is Texas.  They will put half of the crowd in, if not more.  
They certain don't care about the players and their families or they wouldn't be playing.

F Me In The Brain

mrussel1 said:

The amount of eye balls and corresponding ad revenue you lose by putting in A&M because Notre Dame wasn't bluffing seems more material to me.  

The ads are already sold

mrussel1

F Me In The Brain said:

mrussel1 said:

The amount of eye balls and corresponding ad revenue you lose by putting in A&M because Notre Dame wasn't bluffing seems more material to me.  

The ads are already sold

Not sure that's completely true.  Rather,  how could we possibly know? 

Regarding the attendance,  I'll reserve my judgment until I see those numbers.  I'm sure they have to pay a substantial break fee to the Rose Bowl,  stadium,  etc.

F Me In The Brain

mrussel1 said:

F Me In The Brain said:

mrussel1 said:

The amount of eye balls and corresponding ad revenue you lose by putting in A&M because Notre Dame wasn't bluffing seems more material to me.  

The ads are already sold

Not sure that's completely true.  Rather,  how could we possibly know? 

Regarding the attendance,  I'll reserve my judgment until I see those numbers.  I'm sure they have to pay a substantial break fee to the Rose Bowl,  stadium,  etc.

You would have to know someone working in TV....maybe someone in production who in the past worked in media sales.
Oh wait, I'm married to such a person. 

She doesn't work in sports but she works (and has worked for years) on top rated shows.

  There is a chance I am wrong when it comes to CFP but advertising sales are typically done in advance and based on projected audience from past event and factors they can work with in advance.
I know how it works in non sports TV.

You don't think they wait to sell ads until the matchup is announced, hoping that they get the dream scenarios of top draws filling all spots?

I know for a fact that the super bowl sells ads early....and that they almost always go down to the wire to sell them all due to high cost.  However they sold out last year in November last year.  Article here:
https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/super-bowl-commercials-2020-fox-sell-out-1203415238/

So is CFP not following the most successful model, the Super Bowl?



As far as the attendance, we will see how that plays out.

F Me In The Brain

The attendance is where they will see most decline in revenue....not in tv money:
https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2020-11-21/college-football-playoff-bill-hancock

Wobbie

give me:

satan
clemson
buckeyes
a&m

Wobbie

OK......I hope Bama kills ND. I suspect they will.

F Me In The Brain

Yes, they will, I figure.

Let's hear from College Station!

darwinstheory

Wobbie said:

OK......I hope Bama kills ND. I suspect they will.

I was hoping ND would be left out to spare them the added national humiliation. 

F Me In The Brain

darwinstheory said:

Wobbie said:

OK......I hope Bama kills ND. I suspect they will.

I was hoping ND would be left out to spare them the added national humiliation. 

Nah - take the beating and know you made the playoffs. 

Wobbie

brian kelley’s so-called big wins - clemson w/o their QB and a basketball school. roll tide!

mrussel1

Fucking Dabo...

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2020/12/119589/clemsons-dabo-swinney-ranks-ohio-state-11th-in-final-coaches-poll

F Me In The Brain

mrussel1 said:

Fucking Dabo...

https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2020/12/119589/clemsons-dabo-swinney-ranks-ohio-state-11th-in-final-coaches-poll

Hahaha.  
He is trolling hard core there.

mrussel1

F Me In The Brain said:

The attendance is where they will see most decline in revenue....not in tv money:
https://www.latimes.com/sports/story/2020-11-21/college-football-playoff-bill-hancock

My reading of this reaffirms my perspective.  It points out that attendance is a small part of their revenue, which is what I suspected.  And if you're talking about a few games, that ratio is probably even more dramatic.  If they were mostly concerned about attendance, they would have scheduled everything in TX and FL to start.  
Regarding the super bowl ads, I agree that they would love to sell them at the high price before teams are announced.  Maybe they do, but I feel pretty confident in saying that ad pricing for college is much more sensitive to the teams than the pros are.  Colleges have such locked in fan bases, at a whole different level than pro.  Everyone watches the super bowl, no matter who it is, which you would expect after 50+ years of data.  The CFP does not have the same history obviously.  My guess is the price sensitivity is far less than college. 
I guess my point is, that I'm not sure their decision to move it had much to do with attendance revenue.  I think there were broader (but still revenue based) concerns.  

F Me In The Brain

I'm gonna go with the knowledge of a TV insider and a model of the super bowl that is fairly close to the CFP and certainly is something the CFP wants to replicate.

I guess this only shows people can see what they want to see regardless of knowledge or points of reference.

They successfully shit on The Granddaddy of Them All.

Greedy bastards....enjoy the superspreader events televised for all to see.  
I will revise if they have only 500 people at the game and say that I was mistaken about what I said their motivation was re:moving the game.  (I don't think it has anything to do with family members)

Wobbie

“use dabo in a sentence.”

”I had a little dab o’ shit stuck to the bottom of my shoe.”

F Me In The Brain

Wobbie said:

“use dabo in a sentence.”

”I had a little dab o’ shit stuck to the bottom of my shoe.”

There is a really good coach who is a total jackass of a guy in the media - we call that a Dabo

Wobbie

Ty Jordan, PAC 12 offensive rookie of the year, dead.

https://www.deseret.com/sports/2020/12/26/22200478/utah-utes-ty-jordan-killed-in-accidental-shooting

dude averaged 120 yds/gm in the Utes short season. his future was so bright two other RBs entered the draft portal.

F Me In The Brain

That is awful.  He shot himself?

Wobbie

F Me In The Brain said:

That is awful.  He shot himself?

it’s not only awful, it will ruin his family’s christmases forever.

F Me In The Brain

Like Tackleberry from Police Academy.  Died at a family wedding on the dance floor.  Gotta figure that ruins weddings forever for that family.

F Me In The Brain

I think Herbie just wants to dodge going to the game to make the call.


Jk, even though he is a fucking douche about Covid and the seriousness of it I sincerely hope he is ok and doesn't have any negative long term impacts from Covid.

darwinstheory

I didn't even see that he had it. The timing seems to be impeccable for some of the folks that get it.

F Me In The Brain

Clemson's OC doesn't travel with the team due to Covid protocols.   Does this mean he is chicken to?

#fDabo

F Me In The Brain

I don't often find myself rooting for Ohio State, but I surely am today.  Please 🙏 clobber Dabo the Douchelord and his Clemson Tigers.  I have nothing against the kids playing for Clemson (I like some of them quite a bit) but I want the coach to lose to the #11 team...the team that should not be there, in his estimation.  
Hoping for Ohio State 421 Clemson 17.

I would pick Clemson if I were betting on the game, though.

tempo_n_groove

Why oh why is Norte Dame in the playoffs when they get their ass handed to them year after year.

WTH Do they do in the regular year that makes the BCS so enamored by them?  I’ve watched them for years now and have not been impressed with their play yet they make it to the playoffs.

Anybody else notice this?

mrussel1

tempo_n_groove said:

Why oh why is Norte Dame in the playoffs when they get their ass handed to them year after year.

WTH Do they do in the regular year that makes the BCS so enamored by them?  I’ve watched them for years now and have not been impressed with their play yet they make it to the playoffs.

Anybody else notice this?

Fan base + history= ad revenue

F Me In The Brain

Ad revenue again 
That is wrong.
Ads are sold in advance.

F Me In The Brain

18,000 in attendance today in TX.  They were petitioning the Rose Bowl to allow 500.

Sure.  They moved the game because of the families of players being able to attend.

NCAA is a fucking joke.
(So is CFP, who is the governing body for this particular BS move )

mickeyrat

pretty good first half for a #11 team eh dabo?