#NOTOKAY Movement Is Born

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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,498
    In just the first three days since Kelly Oxford's post, over 27 million people have either responded to or visited her twitter page. Over 100 hits per second. While I don't have the data on how many of those hits were helpful in spreading the message vs negative in nature, that is pretty darn powerful and it is important that the movement continues to grow.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    We already had one troll in this thread, don't need another. If you don't have anything of substance to add to the topic, please keep your useless murmur to yourself.

    Again,
    How does calling men the problem of the world today help any conversation?
    Ironic.

    You have embraced the sweeping generalizations when they suit you.

    My generalization is a hell of a lot more accurate than your favourite (all Muslims are dangerous).

    Men are the problem. No question. We are wired differently than women. We're not as nurturing and get hostile when our existence is threatened.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    We already had one troll in this thread, don't need another. If you don't have anything of substance to add to the topic, please keep your useless murmur to yourself.

    Again,
    How does calling men the problem of the world today help any conversation?
    Since nearly all violence is committed by men, pointing that out helps the conversation. When people want to talk about making things better, you have to first be able to talk about the problem.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Go Beavers said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    We already had one troll in this thread, don't need another. If you don't have anything of substance to add to the topic, please keep your useless murmur to yourself.

    Again,
    How does calling men the problem of the world today help any conversation?
    Since nearly all violence is committed by men, pointing that out helps the conversation. When people want to talk about making things better, you have to first be able to talk about the problem.
    No doubt.
    Just find it hard to be accepting that men are the problem full stop.
    It puts men at a lesser position if you will while trying to be open to a problem.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Go Beavers said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    We already had one troll in this thread, don't need another. If you don't have anything of substance to add to the topic, please keep your useless murmur to yourself.

    Again,
    How does calling men the problem of the world today help any conversation?
    Since nearly all violence is committed by men, pointing that out helps the conversation. When people want to talk about making things better, you have to first be able to talk about the problem.
    No doubt.
    Just find it hard to be accepting that men are the problem full stop.
    It puts men at a lesser position if you will while trying to be open to a problem.
    Though my personal experience in this vein has been at the "hands" of men, the perpetrators themselves are the problem, regardless of gender, regardless of whether involved actively or passively (those on the sidelines who deny or defend or absolve themselves simply by looking the other way).


  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    HesCalledDyer said:

    We already had one troll in this thread, don't need another. If you don't have anything of substance to add to the topic, please keep your useless murmur to yourself.

    Again,
    How does calling men the problem of the world today help any conversation?
    Ironic.

    You have embraced the sweeping generalizations when they suit you.

    My generalization is a hell of a lot more accurate than your favourite (all Muslims are dangerous).

    Men are the problem. No question. We are wired differently than women. We're not as nurturing and get hostile when our existence is threatened.
    Reminds me of that last line of A Question Of Time by Depeche Mode.

    "I know my kind and what goes on in our minds."
  • g under p
    g under p Surfing The far side of THE Sombrero Galaxy Posts: 18,237
    hedonist said:

    Rock on, g. Thank you for sharing (and baring) that of yourself. Doesn't matter if you're male or female, no one deserves to be subjected to that shit. Freeing ourselves from that veil of experience and confusion and goddamned shame is liberating, and it really can, does, make a difference not only to ourselves but to others, to do so.

    Fuck knows many of us kept silent for too long.

    Yes hedo, the shame in these sexual abuse/assault cases is so hard to overcome. In my case if that guy was able to touch me in any way we would've been fighting but he didn't and so I chose to run. Then just never spoke of the matter till something dear to me came up that brought out what happened so long ago. Abuse can the same....just having the strength to say I need some help, therapy to deal with this so one can move on with life. It's one of the toughest things in this life to put in the past. Like with the accusers of Trump it appears the anger towards him denying unconditionally he assaulted, that these women are lying. Well that denial brought them out to say eneough is enough that these women apparently know differently than what Trump is telling the world.

    Peace

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  • green_girl
    green_girl Posts: 931
    edited October 2016
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Back in the day... we used to police each other more. For better or worse, guys that mistreated gals got their asses kicked.

    Back in what day? Maybe in your town, but not generally.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,758
    green_girl said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Back in the day... we used to police each other more. For better or worse, guys that mistreated gals got their asses kicked.

    Back in what day? Maybe in your town, but not generally.
    Yeah, I don't see it as any different now than before. my friends have always treated females with respect. I don't hang out with guys that don't.
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  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    green_girl said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    Back in the day... we used to police each other more. For better or worse, guys that mistreated gals got their asses kicked.

    Back in what day? Maybe in your town, but not generally.
    Yeah, I don't see it as any different now than before. my friends have always treated females with respect. I don't hang out with guys that don't.
    I would hope your circle of friends would treat women with respect.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Here is a great article sure to garner attraction.
    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/montana-judge-sparks-outrage-with-no-prison-time-for-incest/ar-AAjga48?li=AAadgLE&ocid=spartanntp
    Not ok.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,759
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Here is a great article sure to garner attraction.
    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/montana-judge-sparks-outrage-with-no-prison-time-for-incest/ar-AAjga48?li=AAadgLE&ocid=spartanntp
    Not ok.

    Wrong thread.
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