I also find it very interesting that you questioned someone in the Trump thread for saying "muffin top" but when it's convenient for you, calling someone a "whore" is okay. THAT is the definition of hypocrite!
That is one inspiring speech I can listen to all day.
I was to post my story yesterday however couldn't get a wifi connection, I certainly was not going post by phone my fingers would lock up.
As I look back on this I at times see it with hilarity but as it went down it was faaaaar from anything funny. Anyway, it was nearly 40 years ago damn time has flown by. I was 17, just moved from Brooklyn NY to MD. This being my new home I wanted to take an adventurous trip to DC the nation's capital on a brand new not finished subway system. I walked all parts of the city, the governmental side to the seedy side of town. Back then on 14th St you could find any drug you wanted to men and women who walked the streets for money.
Well curiousity got the better of me and I wanted to see one of those xxx 25c movie houses. Being 17 I couldn't go in so I stood on my toes on this hot summer day trying peeping in to see what I could see. Out of the corner of my eye I could see and feel a presence behind me. Only to see this man, a big man looking, staring at me. He says to me...."you have some nice legs" I was like "say what" rather quietly. He continues by say more insistently " you REALLY have some nice legs" ( back then I three sport athlete playing hockey, baseball and basketball....I think the term was I had hops). The look of bewilderment crossed my niece face. Before I could blink the man approached me with his hands out, then says, "let's be friends" well before he was able to get close enough to leap at me I took off running. Never in my life I ran so fast, I don't think Usain Bolt could catch me I was frightened out of my mind. With my side in pain I ran the mile and half straight to the subway stop and went straight home. I never went back to DC for about a year by myself.
I only spoke of what happened to me to my sister about 10 years ago ONLY because we were talking about abuse my daughter faced at the hands of her mother when she was three. My sister thought it was funny what happened to me she said, "well Cas you did have very nice legs," I said "yeah but I certainly didn't want a man telling me that". I think somewhere in one of these threads someone spoke of why these women are ONLY speaking up now on what things Trump might have done to them years ago. It just isn't an easy thing to step forward and talk about, look at my case I was never touched but the trauma of what could've occurred kept me for many years from talking about it. Not many young boys want to talk about another man being attracted to them....not many, the same can be said for women as well. Till the time comes when they say to themselves enough is enough and decide I'm going to do something about what happened to me. These women are doing so and I'm glad they are.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Rock on, g. Thank you for sharing (and baring) that of yourself. Doesn't matter if you're male or female, no one deserves to be subjected to that shit. Freeing ourselves from that veil of experience and confusion and goddamned shame is liberating, and it really can, does, make a difference not only to ourselves but to others, to do so.
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Back in the day... we used to police each other more. For better or worse, guys that mistreated gals got their asses kicked.
Men are the problem with the world today. I realize I'm making a generalization that this forum typically hates (what about the nice men?). I think of myself as a good man and a good father, but I can admit to the fact that not all men behave very well and we should not be trusted until that trust is earned.
I have a son that treats his beautiful girlfriend like a queen- I love watching them together. I have a daughter who is at that age where things are going to be happening. I'll be on guard as much as I can for pigs who haven't been raised with values.
Back in the day... we used to police each other more. For better or worse, guys that mistreated gals got their asses kicked.
Men are the problem with the world today. I realize I'm making a generalization that this forum typically hates (what about the nice men?). I think of myself as a good man and a good father, but I can admit to the fact that not all men behave very well and we should not be trusted until that trust is earned.
I have a son that treats his beautiful girlfriend like a queen- I love watching them together. I have a daughter who is at that age where things are going to be happening. I'll be on guard as much as I can for pigs who haven't been raised with values.
Really? Enough with egging on of men. Time for us to make at stand. #menmatters or #menmatter
We already had one troll in this thread, don't need another. If you don't have anything of substance to add to the topic, please keep your useless murmur to yourself.
We already had one troll in this thread, don't need another. If you don't have anything of substance to add to the topic, please keep your useless murmur to yourself.
Again, How does calling men the problem of the world today help any conversation?
We already had one troll in this thread, don't need another. If you don't have anything of substance to add to the topic, please keep your useless murmur to yourself.
Again, How does calling men the problem of the world today help any conversation?
Why do you have to do this? Really, why? How does your idiotic drivel help any conversation? It doesn't. This topic is about the #NotOkay movement. It is for discussion of said movement - a campaign for people to tell their stories of sexual assault.
We already had one troll in this thread, don't need another. If you don't have anything of substance to add to the topic, please keep your useless murmur to yourself.
Again, How does calling men the problem of the world today help any conversation?
Why do you have to do this? Really, why? How does your idiotic drivel help any conversation? It doesn't. This topic is about the #NotOkay movement. It is for discussion of said movement - a campaign for people to tell their stories of sexual assault.
And allowing comments like men are the problems of the world do not help victims heal.
So as I was saying TB - If someone said Women are the problem with the world today. I realize I'm making a generalization that this forum typically hates (what about the nice women?). I think of myself as a good woman and a good mother, but I can admit to the fact that not all women behave very well and we should not be trusted until that trust is earned.
Back in the day... we used to police each other more. For better or worse, guys that mistreated gals got their asses kicked.
Men are the problem with the world today. I realize I'm making a generalization that this forum typically hates (what about the nice men?). I think of myself as a good man and a good father, but I can admit to the fact that not all men behave very well and we should not be trusted until that trust is earned.
I have a son that treats his beautiful girlfriend like a queen- I love watching them together. I have a daughter who is at that age where things are going to be happening. I'll be on guard as much as I can for pigs who haven't been raised with values.
Really? Enough with egging on of men. Time for us to make at stand. #menmatters or #menmatter
In just the first three days since Kelly Oxford's post, over 27 million people have either responded to or visited her twitter page. Over 100 hits per second. While I don't have the data on how many of those hits were helpful in spreading the message vs negative in nature, that is pretty darn powerful and it is important that the movement continues to grow.
We already had one troll in this thread, don't need another. If you don't have anything of substance to add to the topic, please keep your useless murmur to yourself.
Again, How does calling men the problem of the world today help any conversation?
Ironic.
You have embraced the sweeping generalizations when they suit you.
My generalization is a hell of a lot more accurate than your favourite (all Muslims are dangerous).
Men are the problem. No question. We are wired differently than women. We're not as nurturing and get hostile when our existence is threatened.
We already had one troll in this thread, don't need another. If you don't have anything of substance to add to the topic, please keep your useless murmur to yourself.
Again, How does calling men the problem of the world today help any conversation?
Since nearly all violence is committed by men, pointing that out helps the conversation. When people want to talk about making things better, you have to first be able to talk about the problem.
We already had one troll in this thread, don't need another. If you don't have anything of substance to add to the topic, please keep your useless murmur to yourself.
Again, How does calling men the problem of the world today help any conversation?
Since nearly all violence is committed by men, pointing that out helps the conversation. When people want to talk about making things better, you have to first be able to talk about the problem.
No doubt. Just find it hard to be accepting that men are the problem full stop. It puts men at a lesser position if you will while trying to be open to a problem.
We already had one troll in this thread, don't need another. If you don't have anything of substance to add to the topic, please keep your useless murmur to yourself.
Again, How does calling men the problem of the world today help any conversation?
Since nearly all violence is committed by men, pointing that out helps the conversation. When people want to talk about making things better, you have to first be able to talk about the problem.
No doubt. Just find it hard to be accepting that men are the problem full stop. It puts men at a lesser position if you will while trying to be open to a problem.
Though my personal experience in this vein has been at the "hands" of men, the perpetrators themselves are the problem, regardless of gender, regardless of whether involved actively or passively (those on the sidelines who deny or defend or absolve themselves simply by looking the other way).
We already had one troll in this thread, don't need another. If you don't have anything of substance to add to the topic, please keep your useless murmur to yourself.
Again, How does calling men the problem of the world today help any conversation?
Ironic.
You have embraced the sweeping generalizations when they suit you.
My generalization is a hell of a lot more accurate than your favourite (all Muslims are dangerous).
Men are the problem. No question. We are wired differently than women. We're not as nurturing and get hostile when our existence is threatened.
Reminds me of that last line of A Question Of Time by Depeche Mode.
Rock on, g. Thank you for sharing (and baring) that of yourself. Doesn't matter if you're male or female, no one deserves to be subjected to that shit. Freeing ourselves from that veil of experience and confusion and goddamned shame is liberating, and it really can, does, make a difference not only to ourselves but to others, to do so.
Fuck knows many of us kept silent for too long.
Yes hedo, the shame in these sexual abuse/assault cases is so hard to overcome. In my case if that guy was able to touch me in any way we would've been fighting but he didn't and so I chose to run. Then just never spoke of the matter till something dear to me came up that brought out what happened so long ago. Abuse can the same....just having the strength to say I need some help, therapy to deal with this so one can move on with life. It's one of the toughest things in this life to put in the past. Like with the accusers of Trump it appears the anger towards him denying unconditionally he assaulted, that these women are lying. Well that denial brought them out to say eneough is enough that these women apparently know differently than what Trump is telling the world.
Peace
*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
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This is an important topic, and not just for women.
I was to post my story yesterday however couldn't get a wifi connection, I certainly was not going post by phone my fingers would lock up.
As I look back on this I at times see it with hilarity but as it went down it was faaaaar from anything funny. Anyway, it was nearly 40 years ago damn time has flown by. I was 17, just moved from Brooklyn NY to MD. This being my new home I wanted to take an adventurous trip to DC the nation's capital on a brand new not finished subway system. I walked all parts of the city, the governmental side to the seedy side of town. Back then on 14th St you could find any drug you wanted to men and women who walked the streets for money.
Well curiousity got the better of me and I wanted to see one of those xxx 25c movie houses. Being 17 I couldn't go in so I stood on my toes on this hot summer day trying peeping in to see what I could see. Out of the corner of my eye I could see and feel a presence behind me. Only to see this man, a big man looking, staring at me. He says to me...."you have some nice legs" I was like "say what" rather quietly. He continues by say more insistently " you REALLY have some nice legs" ( back then I three sport athlete playing hockey, baseball and basketball....I think the term was I had hops). The look of bewilderment crossed my niece face. Before I could blink the man approached me with his hands out, then says, "let's be friends" well before he was able to get close enough to leap at me I took off running. Never in my life I ran so fast, I don't think Usain Bolt could catch me I was frightened out of my mind. With my side in pain I ran the mile and half straight to the subway stop and went straight home. I never went back to DC for about a year by myself.
I only spoke of what happened to me to my sister about 10 years ago ONLY because we were talking about abuse my daughter faced at the hands of her mother when she was three. My sister thought it was funny what happened to me she said, "well Cas you did have very nice legs," I said "yeah but I certainly didn't want a man telling me that". I think somewhere in one of these threads someone spoke of why these women are ONLY speaking up now on what things Trump might have done to them years ago. It just isn't an easy thing to step forward and talk about, look at my case I was never touched but the trauma of what could've occurred kept me for many years from talking about it. Not many young boys want to talk about another man being attracted to them....not many, the same can be said for women as well. Till the time comes when they say to themselves enough is enough and decide I'm going to do something about what happened to me. These women are doing so and I'm glad they are.
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Fuck knows many of us kept silent for too long.
Now reopened. This topic Not Okay is an important discussion that needs to be had but do not indulge in name-calling, especially when it's sexist and misogynistic. It's not ok and puts your forum account at risk.
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Men are the problem with the world today. I realize I'm making a generalization that this forum typically hates (what about the nice men?). I think of myself as a good man and a good father, but I can admit to the fact that not all men behave very well and we should not be trusted until that trust is earned.
I have a son that treats his beautiful girlfriend like a queen- I love watching them together. I have a daughter who is at that age where things are going to be happening. I'll be on guard as much as I can for pigs who haven't been raised with values.
Enough with egging on of men.
Time for us to make at stand.
#menmatters
or
#menmatter
How does calling men the problem of the world today help any conversation?
This topic is about the #NotOkay movement. It is for discussion of said movement - a campaign for people to tell their stories of sexual assault.
TB - If someone said Women are the problem with the world today. I realize I'm making a generalization that this forum typically hates (what about the nice women?). I think of myself as a good woman and a good mother, but I can admit to the fact that not all women behave very well and we should not be trusted until that trust is earned.
What would be said to that poster?
You have embraced the sweeping generalizations when they suit you.
My generalization is a hell of a lot more accurate than your favourite (all Muslims are dangerous).
Men are the problem. No question. We are wired differently than women. We're not as nurturing and get hostile when our existence is threatened.
Just find it hard to be accepting that men are the problem full stop.
It puts men at a lesser position if you will while trying to be open to a problem.
"I know my kind and what goes on in our minds."
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
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