THE DEBATES 2016

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  • Anyone who believes Trump won that debate just needs to watch the five minute rant towards the end where he talked about the birth certificate, Japan and Rosie O'Donnell. The cherry on top was that he literally ended a crazy rant with saying he has the best temperament.
    You can't make this shit up, folks.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,749

    Anyone who believes Trump won that debate just needs to watch the five minute rant towards the end where he talked about the birth certificate, Japan and Rosie O'Donnell. The cherry on top was that he literally ended a crazy rant with saying he has the best temperament.
    You can't make this shit up, folks.

    That part was pretty jaw dropping. Crazytown.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,370
    edited September 2016

    I think Hillary won in a number of ways last night.

    For one, she won the debate by any measure. More prepared, more substance, more presidential, etc. Trump probably played well to his base but in no way did he attract any new voters.

    Second, she clearly got under his skin, and was very civil in doing so. He tried to stay respectful but she needled him until he lost it, didn't take long. He then went on the offensive after and all day today. There is absolutely no way he keeps it together and doesn't completely lose his mind over the next two debates.

    It will be interesting to see if he changes his method. The next debate is a town hall style moderated by Martha Raddatz and Anderson Cooper. I don't think they will let Trump get away with the crap that he pulled last night.

    oh...and Trump has already stated that he doesn't think Cooper should moderate. He says he is part of the Clinton News Network.
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    Whew. Glad I didn't waste my time watching it after reading all these comments. Maybe I will watch reruns of Saturday Night Live or Anchorman again during the next debate... Although I don't know which one might be more entertaining...
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    PJ_Soul said:

    I think Hillary won in a number of ways last night.

    For one, she won the debate by any measure. More prepared, more substance, more presidential, etc. Trump probably played well to his base but in no way did he attract any new voters.

    Second, she clearly got under his skin, and was very civil in doing so. He tried to stay respectful but she needled him until he lost it, didn't take long. He then went on the offensive after and all day today. There is absolutely no way he keeps it together and doesn't completely lose his mind over the next two debates.

    When he babbled about how he wanted to say just horrible, awful, hurtful things to her, but then patted himself on the back for resisting, I laughed pretty hard. I think he honestly thought that was a feather in his cap!
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  • CROJAM95
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    Gonna be interesting to see Ted Cruz' career after Trump Loses......ah you dope. The only good thing he did was stick up for his wife and his Kennedy Killing Father :) and now he caves in.

    That Party is driftwood now. How come Trump doesn't need to pass the Evangelical Test this cycle?....seems These dopey voters and Party have sold their souls.....beating the drum of Racism/Sexism/Homophobic/ against any religion other than some Protestant one/ barely any diversity...... Cant believe they went all in with this. Where do you go on Nov 9th?

    Is Kasich still around for Donald to hook him up to run his foreign and domestic fronts while he's making America great again ;)









  • CROJAM95 said:

    Gonna be interesting to see Ted Cruz' career after Trump Loses......ah you dope. The only good thing he did was stick up for his wife and his Kennedy Killing Father :) and now he caves in.

    That Party is driftwood now. How come Trump doesn't need to pass the Evangelical Test this cycle?....seems These dopey voters and Party have sold their souls.....beating the drum of Racism/Sexism/Homophobic/ against any religion other than some Protestant one/ barely any diversity...... Cant believe they went all in with this. Where do you go on Nov 9th?

    Is Kasich still around for Donald to hook him up to run his foreign and domestic fronts while he's making America great again ;)









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  • igotid88
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    Double standard. If Hillary had acted like Trump yesterday she would be demolished by the press. But Trump, as long as he didn't explode he did okay. Hillary handed his ass to him
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  • sorry I missed it (aside from highlights) it sounds like this debate has humbled some folks, the next one will be like the shoot-out at the O.K corral I'm sure.
    think about this though...Trump is so new to the political arena that finding dirt on him is nearly impossible(aside from business deals and past wives), he hasn't had the time or experience's to do or get caught doing anything like Hillary has. Emails and servers, Benghazi, political lies to the people, adversaries' dyeing before court dates or hearings, this woman has been around the block .....30 years ! and to tell you the truth I almost have to admire her and Bill because who else can pull off murder, blatant bold faced lies and a number of crimes other people went to prison for, this is the face of professional politics' and she's running for POTUS ! she is the Gangsters Gangster, the capo di tutti capi, and to lie to the faces of the mothers who lost their son's in Benghazi....that's a true criminal with no remorse or compassion.
    now as far as trump goes, who knows ? time will tell.

    Godfather.

    What? Some people really need to learn to move on. Benghazi was dealt with. 7 times to be specific. There is no evidence that Clinton did anything illegal. The email were deals with by the FBI. They didn't have the evidence to support charges. What the hell do you need to keep hearing Clinton say I won't do it again? There's nothing else to say about it. And I'd love for you or anyone to produce a shred of evidence that shows bill or Hillary murdered or had anyone murdered. Some of the most absurd notions I've ever heard.

    There is plenty of dirt that can be dug up on trump. He's a sexist, racist, shrewd business man. All of the dirt has been dug up. What have you been watching/reading for the past year?
    you're right they haven't been arrested for murder....they're good at it ! LOL !!!
    I'll bet these topic's are brought up at the next debates though, it's all about character and trust in this election and Hillary has a lot of skeletons in her political closet you have to admit, I'm not saying Trump will be a great president (maybe he will ? who knows) but I am saying Hillary's past and dishonest way's could very well be here to haunt her through out this election process.
    I really think Trump will win the race....but if Hillary win's her entire term will be filled with constant doubt because of the accusations and "facts" that have been brought up about her and Bill, think about it, Bill has slept with mode women then Gene Simmons and is famous for a BJ in the oval office not to mention those famous cigars, and true or not the body count thing is here, the smashed blackberries and I-pads so really is this the kind of family Americans want to represent them ???? I know Trumps no angel and probably even smoked one of those cigar's but his public track record is squeaky clean compared to the Clinton's and that's why he will probably win.

    Godfather.

    Why do you keep bringing up who bill has fucked? What does that matter? Like I said, show one piece of evidence that the Clinton's murdered anyone. You trusted every politician you voted for? It's a joke that you think trump is any more honorable and trustworthy than Clinton. Trump thumpers realky need to get used to the idea that Trump has 0 chance of winning. If last night doesn't show you that, you are going to be very disappointed.
    personally non of that matters to me, I'm just saying that it does matter to many Americans and it WILL affect her vote count.

    Godfather.

    No, it doesn't matter to anyone except people who aren't voting for Clinton regardless. It's just a tactic to keep,people from talking about how bad trump is.
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  • wndowpayne
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    Ouch..Trump really came off as a complete ass..I actually caught myself laughing out loud to some remarks...
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  • Free
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    Ouch..Trump really came off as a complete ass..I actually caught myself laughing out loud to some remarks...

    You could hear the audience laugh at him a few times.
  • g under p
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    sorry I missed it (aside from highlights) it sounds like this debate has humbled some folks, the next one will be like the shoot-out at the O.K corral I'm sure.
    think about this though...Trump is so new to the political arena that finding dirt on him is nearly impossible(aside from business deals and past wives), he hasn't had the time or experience's to do or get caught doing anything like Hillary has. Emails and servers, Benghazi, political lies to the people, adversaries' dyeing before court dates or hearings, this woman has been around the block .....30 years ! and to tell you the truth I almost have to admire her and Bill because who else can pull off murder, blatant bold faced lies and a number of crimes other people went to prison for, this is the face of professional politics' and she's running for POTUS ! she is the Gangsters Gangster, the capo di tutti capi, and to lie to the faces of the mothers who lost their son's in Benghazi....that's a true criminal with no remorse or compassion.
    now as far as trump goes, who knows ? time will tell.

    Godfather.

    What? Some people really need to learn to move on. Benghazi was dealt with. 7 times to be specific. There is no evidence that Clinton did anything illegal. The email were deals with by the FBI. They didn't have the evidence to support charges. What the hell do you need to keep hearing Clinton say I won't do it again? There's nothing else to say about it. And I'd love for you or anyone to produce a shred of evidence that shows bill or Hillary murdered or had anyone murdered. Some of the most absurd notions I've ever heard.

    There is plenty of dirt that can be dug up on trump. He's a sexist, racist, shrewd business man. All of the dirt has been dug up. What have you been watching/reading for the past year?
    you're right they haven't been arrested for murder....they're good at it ! LOL !!!
    I'll bet these topic's are brought up at the next debates though, it's all about character and trust in this election and Hillary has a lot of skeletons in her political closet you have to admit, I'm not saying Trump will be a great president (maybe he will ? who knows) but I am saying Hillary's past and dishonest way's could very well be here to haunt her through out this election process.
    I really think Trump will win the race....but if Hillary win's her entire term will be filled with constant doubt because of the accusations and "facts" that have been brought up about her and Bill, think about it, Bill has slept with mode women then Gene Simmons and is famous for a BJ in the oval office not to mention those famous cigars, and true or not the body count thing is here, the smashed blackberries and I-pads so really is this the kind of family Americans want to represent them ???? I know Trumps no angel and probably even smoked one of those cigar's but his public track record is squeaky clean compared to the Clinton's and that's why he will probably win.

    Godfather.

    That's an odd question since you apparently DIDN'T care for the Obama family representing this country either.

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  • Cliffy6745
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    Free said:

    Ouch..Trump really came off as a complete ass..I actually caught myself laughing out loud to some remarks...

    You could hear the audience laugh at him a few times.
    He got a lot of cheers at the end of his insane rant too, which boggled my mind
  • BS44325
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    Kat said:

    I've forgiven some Presidents' bad mistakes but with Bush it's different. Every time I hear his name, I think about the almost 4,500 military people and the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis who died in the Iraq war and are still dying. It's not forgivable with me. :(

    Yet you forgive Hillary for being on board with the decision.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,749
    I guess anyone who does any work for Trump's businesses better start demanding payment before any of the work is done then.
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  • BS44325
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    seanwon said:

    Wow, people are trying to claim Trump won that debate? Utterly hilarious. Even my Conservative friends have told me today Trump looked bad and it was obvious Hillary was getting under his skin and had won. Not quite sure what some of you were watching.

    This.
    Apparently trump supporters are hitting the on-line surveys, where you can vote more than once. :loser: smh
    "The key difference is the kind of poll the candidates are citing. Trump is going on unscientific online polls, which don’t have any controls to make sure they are actually representative of American voters. Clinton’s claim relies on more rigorous scientific polls — those like CNN’s — that apply controls to try to be representative of US voters."
    http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/9/27/13072668/debate-trump-clinton-polls
    He didn't move the chains like he needed to. If you love Trump you loved his "performance"...if you thought he was an idiot before the debate you got what you expected.

    There is no way that an intelligent disinterested person could watch that debate and think that Trump was the better candidate. No fucking way.
    I thought he was an idiot before the debate and I got what I expected. I don't think he was the better candidate. I also think that he might have successfully done what he needed to do among the voters he is trying to reach.
  • BS44325
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    PJ_Soul said:

    I guess anyone who does any work for Trump's businesses better start demanding payment before any of the work is done then.

    He could have made this line of argument work for him if only he brought up the Obamacare websites. Millions and millions paid for tech that didn't work. Another golden opportunity left on the table.
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