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  • northerndragon
    northerndragon Posts: 9,851
    PJNB said:

    northerndragon said:

    lolobugg said:

    Ok, I finally figured out which song Sirens reminds me of..........
    I want to apologize in advance to Mike McCready........

    https://youtu.be/jhat-xUQ6dw

    :rofl:
    Gern Blansten said:

    I don't like Sirens at all. It is my least favorite song on the album.

    ^^^^This!

    Not hearing it at Wrigley was one of the best parts of the weekend. First time in almost three years that I didn't have to hear it for two whole shows in a row. Made me soooooo happy.
    One of the best parts of your weekend was not listening to a song. Must have been a fun weekend you had there. :bee:
    I had an amazing weekend and yes one of the best parts was not having to be tortured with that drivel for either show. I didn't say it was the best part or even the top 10, it just made the list.
    Anything you lose from being honest
    You never really had to begin with.


    Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,459
    PJ_Soul said:

    2-feign-reluctance said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Pearl34Jam said:

    I'll never get the hate for this song. Is it because everyone's expecting every song to sound like Deep and Leash?

    Beautiful song.

    No, it's just because it's a cheesy-ass sounding song that hearkens back to 90s power ballads but without the energy, and also it doesn't sound good. ;) I personally think it's a rather confused sounding song. The lyrics are okay though. Not phenomenal or super creative or anything, not even close, but they are relatable for most people, which is fine.
    Why relatable for most people? The thought of losing someone close to you doesn't resonate with all people?
    Not sure what you're asking. Are you wondering why I said "most" and not "all"? I know there are people who have never lost someone and who don't think about such things, so yeah, most people, not all.
    Relatable like yeah I know what that's like, vs. I could imagine what that's like and the song therefore resonates.
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    northerndragon said:

    PJNB said:

    northerndragon said:

    lolobugg said:

    Ok, I finally figured out which song Sirens reminds me of..........
    I want to apologize in advance to Mike McCready........

    https://youtu.be/jhat-xUQ6dw

    :rofl:
    Gern Blansten said:

    I don't like Sirens at all. It is my least favorite song on the album.

    ^^^^This!

    Not hearing it at Wrigley was one of the best parts of the weekend. First time in almost three years that I didn't have to hear it for two whole shows in a row. Made me soooooo happy.
    One of the best parts of your weekend was not listening to a song. Must have been a fun weekend you had there. :bee:
    I had an amazing weekend and yes one of the best parts was not having to be tortured with that drivel for either show. I didn't say it was the best part or even the top 10, it just made the list.
    Ya I was just messing with you and I know how you feel with a certain song being played. Wrigley 2 rocked, especially the first set, but Last Kiss really killed it for me. I tried to get back into but it was tough and the crowd felt it too imo. Crazy Mary fixed that though. :rock_on:
  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    Wrigley 1 SETLIST
    UNFUCKWITHABLE

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    1995- New Orleans, LA  : New Orleans, LA

    1996- Charleston, SC

    1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN

    2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN

    2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA

    2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)

    2006- Cincinnati, OH

    2008- Columbia, SC

    2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2

    2010- Bristow, VA

    2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL

    2012- Atlanta, GA

    2013- Charlotte, NC

    2014- Cincinnati, OH

    2015- New York, NY

    2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA

    2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY

    2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2

    2020- Nashville, TN 

    2022- Smashville 

    2023- Austin, TX x2

    2024- Baltimore

  • gregkitefan
    gregkitefan Posts: 1,122
    northerndragon said:

    gregkitefan said:

    I would rather hear Sirens any show over Small Town.

    That's just wrong, so many kinds of wrong.
    How is it wrong when I said I would rather hear Sirens than Small Town.
    It's what I would want to hear, not you pal.
    So no it's not wrong.

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  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    gregkitefan said:

    northerndragon said:

    gregkitefan said:

    I would rather hear Sirens any show over Small Town.

    That's just wrong, so many kinds of wrong.
    How is it wrong when I said I would rather hear Sirens than Small Town.
    It's what I would want to hear, not you pal.
    So no it's not wrong.

    WRONG AGAIN

    livefootsteps.org/user/?usr=446

    1995- New Orleans, LA  : New Orleans, LA

    1996- Charleston, SC

    1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN

    2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN

    2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA

    2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)

    2006- Cincinnati, OH

    2008- Columbia, SC

    2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2

    2010- Bristow, VA

    2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL

    2012- Atlanta, GA

    2013- Charlotte, NC

    2014- Cincinnati, OH

    2015- New York, NY

    2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA

    2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY

    2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2

    2020- Nashville, TN 

    2022- Smashville 

    2023- Austin, TX x2

    2024- Baltimore

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
    2-feign-reluctance said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    2-feign-reluctance said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Pearl34Jam said:

    I'll never get the hate for this song. Is it because everyone's expecting every song to sound like Deep and Leash?

    Beautiful song.

    No, it's just because it's a cheesy-ass sounding song that hearkens back to 90s power ballads but without the energy, and also it doesn't sound good. ;) I personally think it's a rather confused sounding song. The lyrics are okay though. Not phenomenal or super creative or anything, not even close, but they are relatable for most people, which is fine.
    Why relatable for most people? The thought of losing someone close to you doesn't resonate with all people?
    Not sure what you're asking. Are you wondering why I said "most" and not "all"? I know there are people who have never lost someone and who don't think about such things, so yeah, most people, not all.
    Relatable like yeah I know what that's like, vs. I could imagine what that's like and the song therefore resonates.
    I just mean that most people can relate to the lyrics. On what level is up to the individual.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,459
    PJ_Soul said:

    2-feign-reluctance said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    2-feign-reluctance said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Pearl34Jam said:

    I'll never get the hate for this song. Is it because everyone's expecting every song to sound like Deep and Leash?

    Beautiful song.

    No, it's just because it's a cheesy-ass sounding song that hearkens back to 90s power ballads but without the energy, and also it doesn't sound good. ;) I personally think it's a rather confused sounding song. The lyrics are okay though. Not phenomenal or super creative or anything, not even close, but they are relatable for most people, which is fine.
    Why relatable for most people? The thought of losing someone close to you doesn't resonate with all people?
    Not sure what you're asking. Are you wondering why I said "most" and not "all"? I know there are people who have never lost someone and who don't think about such things, so yeah, most people, not all.
    Relatable like yeah I know what that's like, vs. I could imagine what that's like and the song therefore resonates.
    I just mean that most people can relate to the lyrics. On what level is up to the individual.
    Word, Soul.
    www.cluthelee.com
  • KC138045
    KC138045 Columbus, OH Posts: 2,716
    I really didn't mind Sirens when it first came out but now I can't stand it. I wouldn't say I hate but its pretty damn close to hate. It is a skip every time it comes on.
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  • gregkitefan
    gregkitefan Posts: 1,122
    lolobugg said:

    gregkitefan said:

    northerndragon said:

    gregkitefan said:

    I would rather hear Sirens any show over Small Town.

    That's just wrong, so many kinds of wrong.
    How is it wrong when I said I would rather hear Sirens than Small Town.
    It's what I would want to hear, not you pal.
    So no it's not wrong.

    WRONG AGAIN
    Nope.
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  • Pearl34Jam
    Pearl34Jam TN Posts: 1,112
    gregkitefan said:

    northerndragon said:

    gregkitefan said:

    I would rather hear Sirens any show over Small Town.

    That's just wrong, so many kinds of wrong.
    How is it wrong when I said I would rather hear Sirens than Small Town.
    It's what I would want to hear, not you pal.
    So no it's not wrong.

    Don't mind them. They can't stand different opinions.
    "Must I keep explaining my decisions to you strangers of the Internet?" - Merch tent 8/19/16

    '13: 10/27 Baltimore
    '15: 9/26 New York City
    '16: 4/16 Greenville (VS!), 4/26 Lexington, 4/28 Philly, 8/20 Wrigley
    '18: 9/02 Fenway
    '22: 9/16 Nashville
    ’24: 8/26 Noblesville, 9/12 Baltimore
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
    KC138045 said:

    I really didn't mind Sirens when it first came out but now I can't stand it. I wouldn't say I hate but its pretty damn close to hate. It is a skip every time it comes on.

    I think I tried really hard to like it when I first heard it, almost to the point of attempting to delude myself. :lol: Then I got over that and admitted my true feelings. ;)
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • lolobugg
    lolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    gregkitefan said:

    lolobugg said:

    gregkitefan said:

    northerndragon said:

    gregkitefan said:

    I would rather hear Sirens any show over Small Town.

    That's just wrong, so many kinds of wrong.
    How is it wrong when I said I would rather hear Sirens than Small Town.
    It's what I would want to hear, not you pal.
    So no it's not wrong.

    WRONG AGAIN
    Nope.
    Right

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    1995- New Orleans, LA  : New Orleans, LA

    1996- Charleston, SC

    1998- Atlanta, GA: Birmingham, AL: Greenville, SC: Knoxville, TN

    2000- Atlanta, GA: New Orleans, LA: Memphis, TN: Nashville, TN

    2003- Raleigh, NC: Charlotte, NC: Atlanta, GA

    2004- Asheville, NC (hometown show)

    2006- Cincinnati, OH

    2008- Columbia, SC

    2009- Chicago, IL x 2 / Ed Vedder- Atlanta, GA x 2

    2010- Bristow, VA

    2011- Alpine Valley, WI (PJ20) x 2 / Ed Vedder- Chicago, IL

    2012- Atlanta, GA

    2013- Charlotte, NC

    2014- Cincinnati, OH

    2015- New York, NY

    2016- Greenville, SC: Hampton, VA:: Columbia, SC: Raleigh, NC : Lexington, KY: Philly, PA 2: (Wrigley) Chicago, IL x 2 (holy shit): Temple of the Dog- Philly, PA

    2017- ED VED- Louisville, KY

    2018- Chicago, IL x2, Boston, MA x2

    2020- Nashville, TN 

    2022- Smashville 

    2023- Austin, TX x2

    2024- Baltimore

  • bloodwhore
    bloodwhore Posts: 50

    Ya I was just messing with you and I know how you feel with a certain song being played. Wrigley 2 rocked, especially the first set, but Last Kiss really killed it for me. I tried to get back into but it was tough and the crowd felt it too imo. Crazy Mary fixed that though. :rock_on:

    So …

    Got some, comatose, even flow, don't gimme no lip, sonic reducer, blood

    didn't get you back into it?

    But crazy mary after an encore break did? Not saying that's wrong, just interesting to me
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    edited September 2016
    I am always rocking at a concert and enjoyed those songs a lot but I just felt the momentum was no wheres near as high during those songs as it should have been and no wheres near as high as it was in the first set and I think that Last Kiss played a huge part in that. Crazy Mary with the amazing Boom solo did pull me back into the same groove I was feeling in the first set.
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    Just my opinion, the song suffers from a profoundly weak beginning. once it gets rolling it's ok.

    I can relate to Sirens , (most everything Ed does lyrically I'm on board with) but it's not a place I want to spend a great deal of time...sort of like The End.

    For every choice, mistake I made, is not my plan
    To send you in the arms of some fucking nothingman
    And if you choose to stay, I'll wait, I'll understand

    It's a fragile thing, this life we lead,
    If I think too much I can get over
    Whelmed by the grace
    By which we live our lives
    With death over our shoulders



    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018
  • bloodwhore
    bloodwhore Posts: 50
    Ok I gotcha now. I guess there is always that ebb and flow in pj sets. Especially the last 3-4 years.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
    Tiki said:

    Just my opinion, the song suffers from a profoundly weak beginning. once it gets rolling it's ok.

    I can relate to Sirens , (most everything Ed does lyrically I'm on board with) but it's not a place I want to spend a great deal of time...sort of like The End.

    For every choice, mistake I made, is not my plan
    To send you in the arms of some fucking nothingman
    And if you choose to stay, I'll wait, I'll understand

    It's a fragile thing, this life we lead,
    If I think too much I can get over
    Whelmed by the grace
    By which we live our lives
    With death over our shoulders



    Huh. That comma between choice and mistake is interesting. I always actually thought he meant "choice mistake", like a primo mistake as opposed to just a regular one. :lol:
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • EnterThanman
    EnterThanman London, ON Posts: 1,057
    I like the song, but its definitely teetering on the edge of what I can take from PJ. I will admit its not unlike a song that a bunch of bad bands might write, but Eds lyrical abilities save it from what it would be in the hands of a cornier writer.
    The member formerly known as Scratched Vinyl
  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    lyrics websites....pfffft. #PRIMO

    you can put commas anywhere with ED. He's surfing.
    Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 06132018

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