Hillary won more votes for President

Cliffy6745 · August 2016

Free said:
Interesting....

Prominent Clinton Researcher Author Victor Thorn found dead of apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound

note–at this point the info is scant, but the ‘official’ story is that Victor apparently took his own life.

https://www.amazon.com/Holocaust-Hoax-Exposed-Victor-Thorn/dp/1467506389

mrussel1 · August 2016

Cliffy6745 said:

Free said:
Interesting....

Prominent Clinton Researcher Author Victor Thorn found dead of apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound

note–at this point the info is scant, but the ‘official’ story is that Victor apparently took his own life.

https://www.amazon.com/Holocaust-Hoax-Exposed-Victor-Thorn/dp/1467506389

The world has lost one of the great whistle blowers. So sad.

Cliffy6745 · August 2016

mrussel1 said:

Cliffy6745 said:

Free said:
Interesting....

Prominent Clinton Researcher Author Victor Thorn found dead of apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound

note–at this point the info is scant, but the ‘official’ story is that Victor apparently took his own life.

https://www.amazon.com/Holocaust-Hoax-Exposed-Victor-Thorn/dp/1467506389
The world has lost one of the great whistle blowers. So sad.

Ha indeed. I googled the guy's name and it was a bunch of conspiracy websites then that book

polaris_x · August 2016

mrussel1 said:

polaris_x said:

1. So, analysts set a forecasted profit margin and the stock price is set for that ... so, corporations are beholden to meet those margins ... so, what do they do in order to try and meet them? ... they cut costs (could be labour, could be screwing over partners, could be using cheaper materials, could be sourcing from suspect suppliers) ... think about it for a second ... nowhere in that stock price is the consideration of protecting our natural resources, ensuring fair wages, ensuring human rights ... it is indeed fucked up ... the system is extremely fucked up ...

2. I know about these ... they are a joke ... they represent a nano fraction of the investment community and even that - most of these funds are laden with unsustainable companies ...
That's an interesting paradox. You want there to be some valuation for social responsibility, but you deride those companies that try to achieve that as unsustainable.

it's not a paradox whatsoever ... do you own any of these funds!? ... do a semi-deep dive and look at the companies ...

ultimately, it's not about these funds or any other ... it's about an economic and societal system that factors in externalities that currently are not factored into the equation ... you can't operate within a model that is both dependent on our natural resources but not yet factor in the preservation of those resources ... right now - we are supposed to believe that things are great if an oil company can produce as much oil as possible for as little as possible ... nothing in that valuation considers the impacts of pollution, global warming, destroyed ecosystems or the like ... how is that a good model?

Bentleyspop · August 2016

Cliffy6745 said:

Free said:
Interesting....

Prominent Clinton Researcher Author Victor Thorn found dead of apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound

note–at this point the info is scant, but the ‘official’ story is that Victor apparently took his own life.

https://www.amazon.com/Holocaust-Hoax-Exposed-Victor-Thorn/dp/1467506389

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Lots of hateful idiots out there who also believe it didn't happen

Boxes&Books · August 2016

Free said:
Interesting....

Prominent Clinton Researcher Author Victor Thorn found dead of apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound

note–at this point the info is scant, but the ‘official’ story is that Victor apparently took his own life.

A shit load of people with close ties to the Clintons and their respective operations turning up dead. All coincidences, right? I've never paid to much attention to these because that's when you really start to appear like a conspiracy nut, however the recent deaths of that DNC data guy and now this guy are very troubling

PJ_Soul · August 2016

tonifig8 said:

Free said:
Interesting....

Prominent Clinton Researcher Author Victor Thorn found dead of apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound

note–at this point the info is scant, but the ‘official’ story is that Victor apparently took his own life.

A shit load of people with close ties to the Clintons and their respective operations turning up dead. All coincidences, right? I've never paid to much attention to these because that's when you really start to appear like a conspiracy nut, however the recent deaths of that DNC data guy and now this guy are very troubling

So that's two people, which does not arouse suspicion. Who else composes this shit load of dead people? I am not aware of any but haven't been paying attention to who's died. Your comment is intriguing though. What information are you finding troubling?

Free · August 2016

tonifig8 said:

Free said:
Interesting....

Prominent Clinton Researcher Author Victor Thorn found dead of apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound

note–at this point the info is scant, but the ‘official’ story is that Victor apparently took his own life.

A shit load of people with close ties to the Clintons and their respective operations turning up dead. All coincidences, right? I've never paid to much attention to these because that's when you really start to appear like a conspiracy nut, however the recent deaths of that DNC data guy and now this guy are very troubling

Yeah, I'm not a conspiracy nut, just thought it was interesting the guy is dead by suicide. I heard it's the 3rd death in a week or something like that.

benjs · August 2016

tonifig8 said:

Free said:
Interesting....

Prominent Clinton Researcher Author Victor Thorn found dead of apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound

note–at this point the info is scant, but the ‘official’ story is that Victor apparently took his own life.

A shit load of people with close ties to the Clintons and their respective operations turning up dead. All coincidences, right? I've never paid to much attention to these because that's when you really start to appear like a conspiracy nut, however the recent deaths of that DNC data guy and now this guy are very troubling

Typically, with any pieces of legitimate news, you would see some legitimate news sites listed, instead of nearly plain-text conspiracy-leaning news sites such as: American Free Press, Citizens for Legitimate Government, govtslave.info, theuglytruth.wordpress.com. Or it could be Victor Thorn's 2012 book, The Holocaust Hoax Exposed. Yes - you really are starting to appear like a conspiracy nut when that's what a search for Victor Thorn yields on Google's first page of results.

Gern Blansten · August 2016

Gern Blansten said:

PJ_Soul said:

Free said:
Well this is comforting

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Lkbw_BZ8nao
This seems to be a slip of the tongue (but not a Freudian slip). Her plan includes tax cuts for the middle class. From her own website: "Hillary is proposing middle-class tax breaks to help families cope with the rising cost of everyday expenses, like child care and education- and she’s announced new tax credits to help families caring for an ill or aging family member. She’ll pay for them by raising taxes on the wealthiest Americans and closing loopholes in our tax code."
I'm pretty sure someone fucked up her teleprompter notes, ahahaha, or she just brain-farted while speaking. Embarrassing, but not a big deal, though she should perhaps publicly correct herself for good measure. What is somewhat unsettling is that people in the audience applauded her fuck up, lol. You can see a little confusion on their faces, but they still clap, including Warren Buffet. It's like they weren't really listening very closely or something. Crowds need to stop being a mob. Mob mentality makes everyone dumb.
She clearly says "We AREN'T"....come on

Meet the Press daily is reporting that the Trump campaign put out the video knowing that she said "aren't"

Boxes&Books · August 2016

benjs said:

tonifig8 said:

Free said:
Interesting....

Prominent Clinton Researcher Author Victor Thorn found dead of apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound

note–at this point the info is scant, but the ‘official’ story is that Victor apparently took his own life.

A shit load of people with close ties to the Clintons and their respective operations turning up dead. All coincidences, right? I've never paid to much attention to these because that's when you really start to appear like a conspiracy nut, however the recent deaths of that DNC data guy and now this guy are very troubling
Typically, with any pieces of legitimate news, you would see some legitimate news sites listed, instead of nearly plain-text conspiracy-leaning news sites such as: American Free Press, Citizens for Legitimate Government, govtslave.info, theuglytruth.wordpress.com. Or it could be Victor Thorn's 2012 book, The Holocaust Hoax Exposed. Yes - you really are starting to appear like a conspiracy nut when that's what a search for Victor Thorn yields on Google's first page of results.

Personally I haven't researched any of them. I saw free's post and it reminded me of the various articles I've seen throughout the months. I'd say I've seen about 6 or 7. Most of the time it was something that would turn up on a feed. The last one I saw was the DNC data guy who was out for a jog. He was shot at gun point. None of his belongings were taken. The police are offering a reward for info leading to an arrest.

Young guy with a lot of access to DNC data. I guess the conspiracy is that he leaked the info? Not exactly sure. I'll have to pull some articles. On the surface it does appear sketchy. Shot in the head while out for a jog in a Safe neighborhood. Weird that someone would want this nerd dead.

PJ_Soul · August 2016

So without any evidence at all people are suspecting the DNC of murdering their own because he might have leaked info? What is this, House of Cards?

Gern Blansten · August 2016

tonifig8 said:

benjs said:

tonifig8 said:

Free said:
Interesting....

Prominent Clinton Researcher Author Victor Thorn found dead of apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound

note–at this point the info is scant, but the ‘official’ story is that Victor apparently took his own life.

A shit load of people with close ties to the Clintons and their respective operations turning up dead. All coincidences, right? I've never paid to much attention to these because that's when you really start to appear like a conspiracy nut, however the recent deaths of that DNC data guy and now this guy are very troubling
Typically, with any pieces of legitimate news, you would see some legitimate news sites listed, instead of nearly plain-text conspiracy-leaning news sites such as: American Free Press, Citizens for Legitimate Government, govtslave.info, theuglytruth.wordpress.com. Or it could be Victor Thorn's 2012 book, The Holocaust Hoax Exposed. Yes - you really are starting to appear like a conspiracy nut when that's what a search for Victor Thorn yields on Google's first page of results.
Personally I haven't researched any of them. I saw free's post and it reminded me of the various articles I've seen throughout the months. I'd say I've seen about 6 or 7. Most of the time it was something that would turn up on a feed. The last one I saw was the DNC data guy who was out for a jog. He was shot at gun point. None of his belongings were taken. The police are offering a reward for info leading to an arrest.

Young guy with a lot of access to DNC data. I guess the conspiracy is that he leaked the info? Not exactly sure. I'll have to pull some articles. On the surface it does appear sketchy. Shot in the head while out for a jog in a Safe neighborhood. Weird that someone would want this nerd dead.

yeah it makes sense that they would kill him AFTER he leaked the emails...not before.

Give me a break. Just a brief reading of the articles shows that he was found by police "conscious and breathing"....if that was a professional hit they suck.

Drowned Out · August 2016

PJ_Soul said:

tonifig8 said:

Free said:
Interesting....

Prominent Clinton Researcher Author Victor Thorn found dead of apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound

note–at this point the info is scant, but the ‘official’ story is that Victor apparently took his own life.

A shit load of people with close ties to the Clintons and their respective operations turning up dead. All coincidences, right? I've never paid to much attention to these because that's when you really start to appear like a conspiracy nut, however the recent deaths of that DNC data guy and now this guy are very troubling
So that's two people, which does not arouse suspicion. Who else composes this shit load of dead people? I am not aware of any but haven't been paying attention to who's died. Your comment is intriguing though. What information are you finding troubling?

https://truthkings.com/47-clinton-friends-mysteriously-turned-dead/#
Here is the list that gets people asking questions. No idea what this website is all about, just providing the info requested. This stuff has been out there since before Bill ran for potus.
I find it hard to believe that the clintons were involved in all (or most) of these. But I find it harder to believe they were not involved in ANY of them. I would think this is where the term 'Dixie mafia' came from. Whitewater and the mena airport drug smuggling operations would be scandals worth covering up if you had grand political aspirations. I think we could find a skeleton/body or two in most national politicians closets. Or maybe I've watched too much House of Cards (anyone else think the show is loosely based on the clintons?)
I hate that we are all so afraid to be considered conspiracy theorists. Narrows the narrative way too much.

Gern Blansten · August 2016

Drowned Out said:

PJ_Soul said:

tonifig8 said:

Free said:
Interesting....

Prominent Clinton Researcher Author Victor Thorn found dead of apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound

note–at this point the info is scant, but the ‘official’ story is that Victor apparently took his own life.

A shit load of people with close ties to the Clintons and their respective operations turning up dead. All coincidences, right? I've never paid to much attention to these because that's when you really start to appear like a conspiracy nut, however the recent deaths of that DNC data guy and now this guy are very troubling
So that's two people, which does not arouse suspicion. Who else composes this shit load of dead people? I am not aware of any but haven't been paying attention to who's died. Your comment is intriguing though. What information are you finding troubling?
https://truthkings.com/47-clinton-friends-mysteriously-turned-dead/#
Here is the list that gets people asking questions. No idea what this website is all about, just providing the info requested. This stuff has been out there since before Bill ran for potus.
I find it hard to believe that the clintons were involved in all (or most) of these. But I find it harder to believe they were not involved in ANY of them. I would think this is where the term 'Dixie mafia' came from. Whitewater and the mena airport drug smuggling operations would be scandals worth covering up if you had grand political aspirations. I think we could find a skeleton/body or two in most national politicians closets. Or maybe I've watched too much House of Cards (anyone else think the show is loosely based on the clintons?)
I hate that we are all so afraid to be considered conspiracy theorists. Narrows the narrative way too much.

Drowned Out · August 2016

Wow, never saw that coming.

PJ_Soul · August 2016

benjs · August 2016

Gern Blansten said:

Drowned Out said:

PJ_Soul said:

tonifig8 said:

Free said:
Interesting....

Prominent Clinton Researcher Author Victor Thorn found dead of apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound

note–at this point the info is scant, but the ‘official’ story is that Victor apparently took his own life.

A shit load of people with close ties to the Clintons and their respective operations turning up dead. All coincidences, right? I've never paid to much attention to these because that's when you really start to appear like a conspiracy nut, however the recent deaths of that DNC data guy and now this guy are very troubling
So that's two people, which does not arouse suspicion. Who else composes this shit load of dead people? I am not aware of any but haven't been paying attention to who's died. Your comment is intriguing though. What information are you finding troubling?
https://truthkings.com/47-clinton-friends-mysteriously-turned-dead/#
Here is the list that gets people asking questions. No idea what this website is all about, just providing the info requested. This stuff has been out there since before Bill ran for potus.
I find it hard to believe that the clintons were involved in all (or most) of these. But I find it harder to believe they were not involved in ANY of them. I would think this is where the term 'Dixie mafia' came from. Whitewater and the mena airport drug smuggling operations would be scandals worth covering up if you had grand political aspirations. I think we could find a skeleton/body or two in most national politicians closets. Or maybe I've watched too much House of Cards (anyone else think the show is loosely based on the clintons?)
I hate that we are all so afraid to be considered conspiracy theorists. Narrows the narrative way too much.

While that might be a fitting picture for some members here, Drowned Out has always provided properly researched or first-person accounting links, and has always been incredibly pragmatic and evidence-driven.

Drowned Out · August 2016

PJ_Soul said:

Didn't see your house of cards reference until after I posted

I know that's Hollywood, but there is no way people don't occasionally die to cover up politicians dirty dealings.
It's all good Ben. For the most part, I respect gern's opinions. I thought I made it clear that I in fact hadn't researched much in regards to that list, and that I don't think cover up murders are a partisan thing...but I guess stating that the sheer number of bodies and the circumstances surrounding them made it hard to believe the clintons have no blood on their hands in any of these incidents, was enough to get a fanboy to take the typically lazy tinfoil route/cheap shot. Whatevs.
I'll wear my tinfoil proudly if it sets me apart from the party cheerleaders.

PJ_Soul · August 2016

benjs said:

Gern Blansten said:

Drowned Out said:

PJ_Soul said:

tonifig8 said:

Free said:
Interesting....

Prominent Clinton Researcher Author Victor Thorn found dead of apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound

note–at this point the info is scant, but the ‘official’ story is that Victor apparently took his own life.

A shit load of people with close ties to the Clintons and their respective operations turning up dead. All coincidences, right? I've never paid to much attention to these because that's when you really start to appear like a conspiracy nut, however the recent deaths of that DNC data guy and now this guy are very troubling
So that's two people, which does not arouse suspicion. Who else composes this shit load of dead people? I am not aware of any but haven't been paying attention to who's died. Your comment is intriguing though. What information are you finding troubling?
https://truthkings.com/47-clinton-friends-mysteriously-turned-dead/#
Here is the list that gets people asking questions. No idea what this website is all about, just providing the info requested. This stuff has been out there since before Bill ran for potus.
I find it hard to believe that the clintons were involved in all (or most) of these. But I find it harder to believe they were not involved in ANY of them. I would think this is where the term 'Dixie mafia' came from. Whitewater and the mena airport drug smuggling operations would be scandals worth covering up if you had grand political aspirations. I think we could find a skeleton/body or two in most national politicians closets. Or maybe I've watched too much House of Cards (anyone else think the show is loosely based on the clintons?)
I hate that we are all so afraid to be considered conspiracy theorists. Narrows the narrative way too much.

While that might be a fitting picture for some members here, Drowned Out has always provided properly researched or first-person accounting links, and has always been incredibly pragmatic and evidence-driven.

We know. It was just funny!

Hillary won more votes for President

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