I've posted articles and there are several other articles backing it up. Not to mention FB groups, news stories, pieces, etc with hundreds and hundreds of people commenting who won't vote for her. This was a huge movement, and if you weren't a part of it then you will not understand. Just how many people out there who won't vote for Hillary, out of the way the Democratic Party have treated Bernie, how she herself have dissed Bernie supporters publicly, and how he has been screwed over. This might seem like a joke to many of Hillary supporters because you can't understand the enormity of it all, but it's very real.
His supporters votes mean a whole lot to the Clinton campaign. But they certainly didn't win us over.
Germ was a big part of the movement, so he/she claims.
The fact is that the polls are so tight now. Many are voting third party and many are simply not voting. The reality is that if trump supporters turnout and if people on the left spread out their votes it might just give trump the narrow win. Sanders went on CNN today pleading with his supporters to back Clinton. It's clearly a serious concern for the left.
People like germ making not voting for Clinton that much easier.
The thing about us Bernie supporters are that but we are independent minded, and are not easily swayed into voting for the corrupt two-party system. That's why were his supporters in the first place: it's like ass-backwards. So this move to get him to actively campaign for her in Ohio begging for votes, will probably not work.
yeah that's why you would vote for him....as a DEMOCRAT
This coming from a former Bernie Bro, and now the biggest Clinton supporter in existence.. It's funny to read you're post.
I was off...it's 90% of Sanders voters plan to vote Clinton. Not too many butthurts
Nice try, but Washington Post is Clinton biased and always have been
what news papers if any would you agree with if they said the same thing?
It's already out there how corrupt the media is, and polls are used to manipulate voter behavior and nothing else, I worked in media marketing. I mean really, daily polls? The mere idea of a daily poll is to create nothing more than drama and increase media ratings.
Just talking and listening to people in groups, locally and online, The feeling is heavily still against Hillary from Bernie supporters, the majority anyway. Hearsay and first person testimonials have more weight on the topic then any supposed national bs poll.
You should inform yourself on how scientific polls are conducted before dismissing them. If you want to check them against reality in order to have an informed opinion, compare the poll numbers leading up to the election vs. the actual election results. You'll see which ones are more valid and trustworthy, and which are less.
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Nothing to be nervous about, the president has no significant difference in day to day life. Whether its bush 1 or 2 Obama or pokemon, no real difference, it's supposed to be that way.
Unless your a member of the armed forces or have a family member who is. Just ask those 4000+ that died in Iraq.
Explain the difference? They died under the family values republican president and the hope and change democratic president? What difference does the president make?
So do you think we have the Iraq war if Gore was president? Do we have the Affordable Care Act if McCain was? The Supreme Court would look essentially the same no matter who was president?
Speaking of Gore and war..... Remember him, the guy that refused to have his president campaign for him, the guy who lost his home state to Bush, the guy that couldn't convince more Florida democrats to vote for him versus Bush, if that's not enough to jog your memory this certainly will, the guy that invented the interwebs.
Mrs. Clinton may also get an assist from one Democrat who has been largely quiet about the race, but can testify to the importance of resisting the third-party temptation: former Vice President Al Gore. Her staff has had conversations with aides to Mr. Gore about bringing him onto the campaign trail to emphasize the importance of supporting Mrs. Clinton if they want to make progress on combating climate change.
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Hillary amazes me, she finds a way to chip away at her lead.
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^^^ "I'm very proud that I was a Goldwater girl." Most of you are too young perhaps to understand how revealing this is. And then there's all the rest of the switcheroo going on in the last few to several years. Watch the video.
We need new candidates, period.
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Just saw a preview of Hillary on Jimmy Fallon. He put on a surgical mask and then used hand sanitizer after she high fives him! That is going to sting.
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^^^ "I'm very proud that I was a Goldwater girl." Most of you are too young perhaps to understand how revealing this is. And then there's all the rest of the switcheroo going on in the last few to several years. Watch the video.
We need new candidates, period.
How is it revealing? Do you think she was the only person to follow the political leads of their parents as a youngster? She was 17 during the '64 election, not even old enough to vote. Was every single one of your decisions under 18 very revealing of you today (assuming she even made that decision vs. her parents)? Give her a fucking break already.
Oh and I just checked, she would have turned 17 a week before the election, so she was a high school junior for chrissakes.
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I am 100% behind this and I've been saying it for some time. Thank you, unsung for unwittingly helping us form good government!
My proposal all along is that we have a head of state who represents who we are and makes us look good but who has no power over legislation or law. Someone who makes us look good. Someone who is cool and charismatic. Or, for that matter, someone bad. You know, if we want to be a nation of misogynistic, racists, let some guy like The Donald be our head of state. No power other than the power to embarrass us into getting that first choice back- someone cool who makes us look good when we decide to be wise, kind, generous, etc.
Meanwhile, let a committee of elders who have proven to be endowed with wisdom, a kind and generous heart, clear and knowledgeable thinking and a firm resolve replace our current Executive branch (that business like term sucks anyway) who will advise the Judiciary and Legislative branches in making decisions that are good for the people and good for the planet.
It's time we straighten this shit out.
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I mean, if you really think that way you could change your profile photo. Nah. You only find it useful if your candidate gets it.
He's the last Statesman. The last deserved of my vote.
He ran on the idea that the only reason to be in politics would be to increase liberty and reduce laws, not to increase the surveillance state and tax state and war state like your buddy has done.
I think the argument that we don't need a government or president is one giant fucking pipe dream ok so let's just put that to sleep , for the believers of that pipe dream how do you propose to get it done !!! Yeah we're screwed but I believe the damage to the country will be way worse with him running the show imho ...
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I think the argument that we don't need a government or president is one giant fucking pipe dream ok so let's just put that to sleep , for the believers of that pipe dream how do you propose to get it done !!! Yeah we're screwed but I believe the damage to the country will be way worse with him running the show imho ...
You admit we're screwed but then say we can't get rid of what is screwing us.
I mean, if you really think that way you could change your profile photo. Nah. You only find it useful if your candidate gets it.
He's the last Statesman. The last deserved of my vote.
He ran on the idea that the only reason to be in politics would be to increase liberty and reduce laws, not to increase the surveillance state and tax state and war state like your buddy has done.
What do you want us to become, the taliban? Jesus, for some who are so adament about the sacred constitution and 2nd amendment rights to advocate elimination of the chief executive, the commander in chief and branch? Change your avatar to Unhinged. Jeesh.
New evidence is emerging that Hillary Clinton’s campaign was, in fact, responsible for spreading the original Birther conspiracy theory in 2008, which alleged that Barack Obama was born in Kenya and therefore potentially ineligible for the presidency.
Though Hillary Clinton — and the media — furiously denied that charge after it was made by Republican nominee Donald Trump on Friday morning, editor James Asher remembered Clinton aide Sidney Blumenthal spreading the rumor.
Asher, the former Washington, D.C. bureau chief for McClatchy, tweeted on Thursday evening in response to Hillary Clinton:
@HillaryClinton So why did your man #sidblumenthal spread the #obama birther rumor to me in 2008, asking us to investigate? Remember?
So we just had a pipeline burst in the south and your biggest concern is who really started the birther movement? Awesome.
Hillary Clinton said Friday there’s no “erasing” the “birther” issue for Donald Trump, saying the GOP presidential nominee’s campaign was founded on the “outrageous lie” that President Obama was not born in the United States.
“We know who Donald is. For five years, he has led the birther movement to delegitimize our first black president,” Mrs. Clinton said at an event in Washington, D.C.
“His campaign was founded on this outrageous lie,” she said. “There is no erasing it in history. Just yesterday, Trump again refused to say with his own words that the president was born in the United States. Now, Donald’s advisers have a temerity to say he’s doing the country a service by pushing these lies.
“No, he isn’t,” she said. “He is feeding into the worst impulses — the bigotry and bias that lurks in our country.”
“Barack Obama was born in America, plain and simple, and Donald Trump owes him and the American people an apology,” she said.
“Donald Trump looks at President Obama after eight years as our president — he still doesn’t see him as an American. Think of how dangerous that is,” she said. “Imagine a person in the Oval Office who traffics in conspiracy theories and refuses to let them go no matter what the facts are.”
So we just had a pipeline burst in the south and your biggest concern is who really started the birther movement? Awesome.
Hillary Clinton said Friday there’s no “erasing” the “birther” issue for Donald Trump, saying the GOP presidential nominee’s campaign was founded on the “outrageous lie” that President Obama was not born in the United States.
“We know who Donald is. For five years, he has led the birther movement to delegitimize our first black president,” Mrs. Clinton said at an event in Washington, D.C.
“His campaign was founded on this outrageous lie,” she said. “There is no erasing it in history. Just yesterday, Trump again refused to say with his own words that the president was born in the United States. Now, Donald’s advisers have a temerity to say he’s doing the country a service by pushing these lies.
“No, he isn’t,” she said. “He is feeding into the worst impulses — the bigotry and bias that lurks in our country.”
“Barack Obama was born in America, plain and simple, and Donald Trump owes him and the American people an apology,” she said.
“Donald Trump looks at President Obama after eight years as our president — he still doesn’t see him as an American. Think of how dangerous that is,” she said. “Imagine a person in the Oval Office who traffics in conspiracy theories and refuses to let them go no matter what the facts are.”
Sooooo it really matters to you that much? Do I think some douche bag staffer for Hillary made claims? Yes. Has she spent the past 6+ years beating that dead horse to get attention on herself? No.
Care about important issues, man. You're giving educated voters a bad name.
So we just had a pipeline burst in the south and your biggest concern is who really started the birther movement? Awesome.
Hillary Clinton said Friday there’s no “erasing” the “birther” issue for Donald Trump, saying the GOP presidential nominee’s campaign was founded on the “outrageous lie” that President Obama was not born in the United States.
“We know who Donald is. For five years, he has led the birther movement to delegitimize our first black president,” Mrs. Clinton said at an event in Washington, D.C.
“His campaign was founded on this outrageous lie,” she said. “There is no erasing it in history. Just yesterday, Trump again refused to say with his own words that the president was born in the United States. Now, Donald’s advisers have a temerity to say he’s doing the country a service by pushing these lies.
“No, he isn’t,” she said. “He is feeding into the worst impulses — the bigotry and bias that lurks in our country.”
“Barack Obama was born in America, plain and simple, and Donald Trump owes him and the American people an apology,” she said.
“Donald Trump looks at President Obama after eight years as our president — he still doesn’t see him as an American. Think of how dangerous that is,” she said. “Imagine a person in the Oval Office who traffics in conspiracy theories and refuses to let them go no matter what the facts are.”
Sooooo it really matters to you that much? Do I think some douche bag staffer for Hillary made claims? Yes. Has she spent the past 6+ years beating that dead horse to get attention on herself? No.
Care about important issues, man. You're giving educated voters a bad name.
I think you are missing the point of these posts. It is not that any of this matters because surely it doesn't in the grand scheme of things. The point of these posts is that the Clinton campaign's attacks on Trump will always fall short because everything they accuse him of Hillary was accused of the same by Obama only 8 years earlier. It is why her likeability numbers remain so low. She needs to move away from attacks and sell herself along with a vision for the country.
So we just had a pipeline burst in the south and your biggest concern is who really started the birther movement? Awesome.
Hillary Clinton said Friday there’s no “erasing” the “birther” issue for Donald Trump, saying the GOP presidential nominee’s campaign was founded on the “outrageous lie” that President Obama was not born in the United States.
“We know who Donald is. For five years, he has led the birther movement to delegitimize our first black president,” Mrs. Clinton said at an event in Washington, D.C.
“His campaign was founded on this outrageous lie,” she said. “There is no erasing it in history. Just yesterday, Trump again refused to say with his own words that the president was born in the United States. Now, Donald’s advisers have a temerity to say he’s doing the country a service by pushing these lies.
“No, he isn’t,” she said. “He is feeding into the worst impulses — the bigotry and bias that lurks in our country.”
“Barack Obama was born in America, plain and simple, and Donald Trump owes him and the American people an apology,” she said.
“Donald Trump looks at President Obama after eight years as our president — he still doesn’t see him as an American. Think of how dangerous that is,” she said. “Imagine a person in the Oval Office who traffics in conspiracy theories and refuses to let them go no matter what the facts are.”
Sooooo it really matters to you that much? Do I think some douche bag staffer for Hillary made claims? Yes. Has she spent the past 6+ years beating that dead horse to get attention on herself? No.
Care about important issues, man. You're giving educated voters a bad name.
I think you are missing the point of these posts. It is not that any of this matters because surely it doesn't in the grand scheme of things. The point of these posts is that the Clinton campaign's attacks on Trump will always fall short because everything they accuse him of Hillary was accused of the same by Obama only 8 years earlier. It is why her likeability numbers remain so low. She needs to move away from attacks and sell herself along with a vision for the country.
You are drawing a false equivalency. A campaign staffer making a claim (that got that person fired) is not the same as the candidate. And if you believe the ex-McClatchy person (who knows who that is or what their motivation is), that is also not the same. Has Hillary ever said a word about it? NO. Did Hillary partner with Sheriff Joe to investigate? No. Did Hillary go on tv and the twitter and talk about it? No. Did Hillary serve said "usurper" in his cabinet? Yes. Does the "usurper" support and campaign for Hillary? Yes.
This whole line of argument by Trump, BSxx, JCxxx and all the rest is the biggest fucking bunch of bullshit ever and you are total suckers for parroting the lie. Next, someone like JCxxx is going to claim that HRC killed JFK jr. Oh wait.... that person already did.
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We need new candidates, period.
Either way, WE are going to lose.
Oh and I just checked, she would have turned 17 a week before the election, so she was a high school junior for chrissakes.
It's really a waste if you think about it.
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My proposal all along is that we have a head of state who represents who we are and makes us look good but who has no power over legislation or law. Someone who makes us look good. Someone who is cool and charismatic. Or, for that matter, someone bad. You know, if we want to be a nation of misogynistic, racists, let some guy like The Donald be our head of state. No power other than the power to embarrass us into getting that first choice back- someone cool who makes us look good when we decide to be wise, kind, generous, etc.
Meanwhile, let a committee of elders who have proven to be endowed with wisdom, a kind and generous heart, clear and knowledgeable thinking and a firm resolve replace our current Executive branch (that business like term sucks anyway) who will advise the Judiciary and Legislative branches in making decisions that are good for the people and good for the planet.
It's time we straighten this shit out.
He ran on the idea that the only reason to be in politics would be to increase liberty and reduce laws, not to increase the surveillance state and tax state and war state like your buddy has done.
That's Stockholm Syndrome.
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New evidence is emerging that Hillary Clinton’s campaign was, in fact, responsible for spreading the original Birther conspiracy theory in 2008, which alleged that Barack Obama was born in Kenya and therefore potentially ineligible for the presidency.
Though Hillary Clinton — and the media — furiously denied that charge after it was made by Republican nominee Donald Trump on Friday morning, editor James Asher remembered Clinton aide Sidney Blumenthal spreading the rumor.
Asher, the former Washington, D.C. bureau chief for McClatchy, tweeted on Thursday evening in response to Hillary Clinton:
@HillaryClinton So why did your man #sidblumenthal spread the #obama birther rumor to me in 2008, asking us to investigate? Remember?
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“We know who Donald is. For five years, he has led the birther movement to delegitimize our first black president,” Mrs. Clinton said at an event in Washington, D.C.
“His campaign was founded on this outrageous lie,” she said. “There is no erasing it in history. Just yesterday, Trump again refused to say with his own words that the president was born in the United States. Now, Donald’s advisers have a temerity to say he’s doing the country a service by pushing these lies.
“No, he isn’t,” she said. “He is feeding into the worst impulses — the bigotry and bias that lurks in our country.”
“Barack Obama was born in America, plain and simple, and Donald Trump owes him and the American people an apology,” she said.
“Donald Trump looks at President Obama after eight years as our president — he still doesn’t see him as an American. Think of how dangerous that is,” she said. “Imagine a person in the Oval Office who traffics in conspiracy theories and refuses to let them go no matter what the facts are.”
Do I think some douche bag staffer for Hillary made claims? Yes. Has she spent the past 6+ years beating that dead horse to get attention on herself? No.
Care about important issues, man. You're giving educated voters a bad name.
http://www.reverbnation.com/brianzilm
This whole line of argument by Trump, BSxx, JCxxx and all the rest is the biggest fucking bunch of bullshit ever and you are total suckers for parroting the lie. Next, someone like JCxxx is going to claim that HRC killed JFK jr. Oh wait.... that person already did.