60 to Zero in Three Months Flat

brianlux · July 2016

I mean really, from two terms of a well spoken charismatic man like Barrack Obama to CLINTON VS TRUMP??? Are you kidding me??? Does this disturb anyone else here as much as it does me? I know, rhetorical question, obviously it does. But we keep going back and forth with THOSE TWO???

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

CH156378 · July 2016

No. I'm with her. Proud of it.

brianlux · July 2016

Proud? really? Astounding, but hey, it's your right. Seriously, not try to dis you. I just don't get it.

Boxes&Books · July 2016

CH156378 said:
No. I'm with her. Proud of it.

Are you part of the 60+ group that think she's untrustworthy?

Curious as to why you're with her? Besides Trump being unqualified, etc

CH156378 · July 2016

Were you proud to vote for Obama?

brianlux · July 2016

I felt privileged to get to vote and generally pleased with the results though not 100%.

CH156378 · July 2016

brianlux said:
I felt privileged to get to vote and generally pleased with the results though not 100%.

Ok so proud might not be the right term but I can't imagine how much different in terms of policy ect would be under Hillary than it was with Obama.

brianlux · July 2016

Confession: Sometimes I feel like I've gone from 65 (inside joke) to zero in three months flat. Why? Because of my contribution to all the bitterness, anger, frustration, arguing and uncertainty around a very shaky political scene in America. And what has come of it? Tell me one thing. One freaking thing that has come of all this? Anyone changed their minds? Anyone really feel good about this election process this year? Anybody really and truly find any hope or inspiration as a result of all this? And here I am, putting a negative spin on things. Wow, great. Fuck me.

The Fixer · July 2016

I've gone from not liking Hillary to hating her

CH156378 · July 2016

^Love trumps hate!

Degeneratefk · July 2016

What makes Hilary so much more untrustworthy than ANY other politician? All of them lie. Even bernie has lied. All of them go back on their campaign promises when they get elected. So what makes Hilary the queen of mistrust?

Jason P · July 2016

I'm positive Hillary hates Obama.

Phool · July 2016

Degeneratefk said:
What makes Hilary so much more untrustworthy than ANY other politician? All of them lie. Even bernie has lied. All of them go back on their campaign promises when they get elected. So what makes Hilary the queen of mistrust?

What makes her untrustworthy than any other politician? What makes her the queen of mistrust? We all know politicians lie but Hillary took the stand and lied to congress and the US population about her emails. That is well known. She said she handed over her home server with all the emails she ever wrote to the State department knowing she destroyed any criminal evidence:

I know you won’t read it but here is a link:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/yes-clinton-lied-about-her-emails/article/2567368

If you want to choose to ignore the known facts and willingly take her as a saint then that's fine but don't make her off to be some angel because you ignore the facts about her.

Free · July 2016

brianlux said:
Confession: Sometimes I feel like I've gone from 65 (inside joke) to zero in three months flat. Why? Because of my contribution to all the bitterness, anger, frustration, arguing and uncertainty around a very shaky political scene in America. And what has come of it? Tell me one thing. One freaking thing that has come of all this? Anyone changed their minds? Anyone really feel good about this election process this year? Anybody really and truly find any hope or inspiration as a result of all this? And here I am, putting a negative spin on things. Wow, great. Fuck me.

How can anyone feel good, we have the 2 most unpopular candidates in US history! But I have found hope and inspiration. Even though Bernie went back to being an Independent senator, his message has caused so MANY more leaders to emerge from grass-roots efforts and they are now gettting out into their communities and being leaders. His movement has just begun.

Look at DWS. Tim Canova, her opponent for Florida Congress is now benefitting from her recent downfall, and her hopes of continuing as incumbent, may not come to fruition. See, progress is being made, just not within either of the 2 corrupt party system. Just more of the same from them.

Gern Blansten · July 2016

The more the right hates her the more I like her. She will be a great president.

Free · July 2016

Gern Blansten said:
The more the right hates her the more I like her. She will be a great president.

Folks with this mentality or so snowed. There's nothing great about her she simply more of the same. Same lies, same corporate interests, same war mongering, same talk, same drone strikes, same screwing the people, same shady corrupt practices, same lipservice, Same big bank preferential treatment, same nothing really being done about the environment, same poor health benefits for veterans.

Gern Blansten · July 2016

Free said:

Gern Blansten said:
The more the right hates her the more I like her. She will be a great president.
Folks with this mentality or so snowed. There's nothing great about her she simply more of the same. Same lies, same corporate interests, same war mongering, same talk, same drone strikes, same screwing the people, same shady corrupt practices, same lipservice, Same big bank preferential treatment, same nothing really being done about the environment, same poor health benefits for veterans.

I'm not snowed. I'm on top of everything bro. Thanks for your "opinion" though

You people said the same thing about Obama....both times. You were wrong....both times.

Free · July 2016

Gern Blansten said:

Free said:

Gern Blansten said:
The more the right hates her the more I like her. She will be a great president.
Folks with this mentality or so snowed. There's nothing great about her she simply more of the same. Same lies, same corporate interests, same war mongering, same talk, same drone strikes, same screwing the people, same shady corrupt practices, same lipservice, Same big bank preferential treatment, same nothing really being done about the environment, same poor health benefits for veterans.
I'm not snowed. I'm on top of everything bro. Thanks for your "opinion" though.

You're clearly not a veteran, you're not a minority, you're not paid minimum-wage, you're fine with war and drone strikes, you're fine with bought and paid for elections. You are fine with big banks screwing the American people.

Gern Blansten · July 2016

Free said:

Gern Blansten said:

Free said:

Gern Blansten said:
The more the right hates her the more I like her. She will be a great president.
Folks with this mentality or so snowed. There's nothing great about her she simply more of the same. Same lies, same corporate interests, same war mongering, same talk, same drone strikes, same screwing the people, same shady corrupt practices, same lipservice, Same big bank preferential treatment, same nothing really being done about the environment, same poor health benefits for veterans.
I'm not snowed. I'm on top of everything bro. Thanks for your "opinion" though.
You're clearly not a veteran, you're not a minority, you're not paid minimum-wage, you're fine with war and drone strikes, you're fine with bought and paid for elections. You are fine with big banks screwing the American people.

Do you really think if Bernie was put in office the war and drone strikes would stop? Pretty naive.

Degeneratefk · July 2016

Phool said:

Degeneratefk said:
What makes Hilary so much more untrustworthy than ANY other politician? All of them lie. Even bernie has lied. All of them go back on their campaign promises when they get elected. So what makes Hilary the queen of mistrust?
What makes her untrustworthy than any other politician? What makes her the queen of mistrust? We all know politicians lie but Hillary took the stand and lied to congress and the US population about her emails. That is well known. She said she handed over her home server with all the emails she ever wrote to the State department knowing she destroyed any criminal evidence:

I know you won’t read it but here is a link:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/yes-clinton-lied-about-her-emails/article/2567368

If you want to choose to ignore the known facts and willingly take her as a saint then that's fine but don't make her off to be some angel because you ignore the facts about her.

So you're saying as long as you don't know about it, it's ok?

I've never claimed she was a saint. But you people act like Bill and Hilary are the only 2 that has 3ver lied to you.

brianlux · July 2016

Phool said:

Degeneratefk said:
What makes Hilary so much more untrustworthy than ANY other politician? All of them lie. Even bernie has lied. All of them go back on their campaign promises when they get elected. So what makes Hilary the queen of mistrust?
What makes her untrustworthy than any other politician? What makes her the queen of mistrust? We all know politicians lie but Hillary took the stand and lied to congress and the US population about her emails. That is well known. She said she handed over her home server with all the emails she ever wrote to the State department knowing she destroyed any criminal evidence:

I know you won’t read it but here is a link:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/yes-clinton-lied-about-her-emails/article/2567368

If you want to choose to ignore the known facts and willingly take her as a saint then that's fine but don't make her off to be some angel because you ignore the facts about her.

This helps illustrate the point I'm trying to make with this thread. Look what we're faced with:

Voting for Trump. I think most people who choose Trump are just pissed off and will vote for Trump because he gets them fired up. Not a great reason but there it is.

Voting for Hillary. People either vote for Hillary because they are afraid Trump will win or they truly like her. But why? How can you support a candidate who is untrustworthy. As Phool said, this is based on fact. I know people who work in government. They know what she did was hugely wrong. They don't take this lightly. Not at all. Nor should we.

Voting for a third party candidate who you believe is better than the other to but who you know will loose.

So you either go with a man who is grossly under-qualified, a criminal or an outsider with no chance.

60 to zero and screwed.

60 to Zero in Three Months Flat

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