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Ding dong, the witch is dead!
Good riddance to DWS.0 -
http://yournewswire.com/julian-assange-my-next-leak-will-ensure-hillarys-arrest/
Someone get me Michael Jacksons popcorn. I'm loving the hell out of this.
Assange is Chris Walken to Clinton's Martin Sheen. It's over. 0 -
But it's still more experience than what Trump has.BS44325 said:
Being a senator for two years might look good on a resumé but it hardly makes you experienced. I believed the same about Rubio, Cruz and Rand Paul. There is a reason why that prior to the election of Obama the US has primarily elected governors. Governors make decisions while senators yap then vote while almost never having to deal with the consequences.Degeneratefk said:
That's not true at all. If I remember correctly, he was a senator.BS44325 said:
Obama had zero experience in 2008 and nobody cared. They didn't care when he ran against Hillary and they didn't care when he ran against McCain. Trump's real world experience easily outweighs both Clinton and Obama unless you think only people who have made their life inside government could possibly understand how to be President. That's just silly.Degeneratefk said:That last statement is an excellent point that is lost by most trump supporters.
The presidency is NOT an entry level position. But most trump supporters think that in order to go outside of the establishment, you need someone that has never been in politics. Not a good idea when most of his campaign revolves around foreign policy and foreign trade deals. I think trump vastly underestimates how experience in dealing with world leaders is more than just making a deal to host the miss universe pageant.will myself to find a home, a home within myself
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We all might get our wish so Bernie can own Trumps orange ass in the debates! Arrest with your conscience! 0 -
It depends on how you weigh people's accomplishments. In my eyes Kaine and Pence both have more experience then Clinton when it comes to government service. Trump's management of a global enterprise is different but far more approaches that of governor then anything Clinton has done.Degeneratefk said:
But it's still more experience than what Trump has.BS44325 said:
Being a senator for two years might look good on a resumé but it hardly makes you experienced. I believed the same about Rubio, Cruz and Rand Paul. There is a reason why that prior to the election of Obama the US has primarily elected governors. Governors make decisions while senators yap then vote while almost never having to deal with the consequences.Degeneratefk said:
That's not true at all. If I remember correctly, he was a senator.BS44325 said:
Obama had zero experience in 2008 and nobody cared. They didn't care when he ran against Hillary and they didn't care when he ran against McCain. Trump's real world experience easily outweighs both Clinton and Obama unless you think only people who have made their life inside government could possibly understand how to be President. That's just silly.Degeneratefk said:That last statement is an excellent point that is lost by most trump supporters.
The presidency is NOT an entry level position. But most trump supporters think that in order to go outside of the establishment, you need someone that has never been in politics. Not a good idea when most of his campaign revolves around foreign policy and foreign trade deals. I think trump vastly underestimates how experience in dealing with world leaders is more than just making a deal to host the miss universe pageant.0 -
8 years as a very active first lady, Senate term and Sec't of State. How can you say Trump's beauty pageants and golf courses supersedes the role of the chief diplomat?BS44325 said:
It depends on how you weigh people's accomplishments. In my eyes Kaine and Pence both have more experience then Clinton when it comes to government service. Trump's management of a global enterprise is different but far more approaches that of governor then anything Clinton has done.Degeneratefk said:
But it's still more experience than what Trump has.BS44325 said:
Being a senator for two years might look good on a resumé but it hardly makes you experienced. I believed the same about Rubio, Cruz and Rand Paul. There is a reason why that prior to the election of Obama the US has primarily elected governors. Governors make decisions while senators yap then vote while almost never having to deal with the consequences.Degeneratefk said:
That's not true at all. If I remember correctly, he was a senator.BS44325 said:
Obama had zero experience in 2008 and nobody cared. They didn't care when he ran against Hillary and they didn't care when he ran against McCain. Trump's real world experience easily outweighs both Clinton and Obama unless you think only people who have made their life inside government could possibly understand how to be President. That's just silly.Degeneratefk said:That last statement is an excellent point that is lost by most trump supporters.
The presidency is NOT an entry level position. But most trump supporters think that in order to go outside of the establishment, you need someone that has never been in politics. Not a good idea when most of his campaign revolves around foreign policy and foreign trade deals. I think trump vastly underestimates how experience in dealing with world leaders is more than just making a deal to host the miss universe pageant.0 -
Are not the best golf courses where real business is done?mrussel1 said:
8 years as a very active first lady, Senate term and Sec't of State. How can you say Trump's beauty pageants and golf courses supersedes the role of the chief diplomat?BS44325 said:
It depends on how you weigh people's accomplishments. In my eyes Kaine and Pence both have more experience then Clinton when it comes to government service. Trump's management of a global enterprise is different but far more approaches that of governor then anything Clinton has done.Degeneratefk said:
But it's still more experience than what Trump has.BS44325 said:
Being a senator for two years might look good on a resumé but it hardly makes you experienced. I believed the same about Rubio, Cruz and Rand Paul. There is a reason why that prior to the election of Obama the US has primarily elected governors. Governors make decisions while senators yap then vote while almost never having to deal with the consequences.Degeneratefk said:
That's not true at all. If I remember correctly, he was a senator.BS44325 said:
Obama had zero experience in 2008 and nobody cared. They didn't care when he ran against Hillary and they didn't care when he ran against McCain. Trump's real world experience easily outweighs both Clinton and Obama unless you think only people who have made their life inside government could possibly understand how to be President. That's just silly.Degeneratefk said:That last statement is an excellent point that is lost by most trump supporters.
The presidency is NOT an entry level position. But most trump supporters think that in order to go outside of the establishment, you need someone that has never been in politics. Not a good idea when most of his campaign revolves around foreign policy and foreign trade deals. I think trump vastly underestimates how experience in dealing with world leaders is more than just making a deal to host the miss universe pageant.0 -
NoPJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Are not the best golf courses where real business is done?mrussel1 said:
8 years as a very active first lady, Senate term and Sec't of State. How can you say Trump's beauty pageants and golf courses supersedes the role of the chief diplomat?BS44325 said:
It depends on how you weigh people's accomplishments. In my eyes Kaine and Pence both have more experience then Clinton when it comes to government service. Trump's management of a global enterprise is different but far more approaches that of governor then anything Clinton has done.Degeneratefk said:
But it's still more experience than what Trump has.BS44325 said:
Being a senator for two years might look good on a resumé but it hardly makes you experienced. I believed the same about Rubio, Cruz and Rand Paul. There is a reason why that prior to the election of Obama the US has primarily elected governors. Governors make decisions while senators yap then vote while almost never having to deal with the consequences.Degeneratefk said:
That's not true at all. If I remember correctly, he was a senator.BS44325 said:
Obama had zero experience in 2008 and nobody cared. They didn't care when he ran against Hillary and they didn't care when he ran against McCain. Trump's real world experience easily outweighs both Clinton and Obama unless you think only people who have made their life inside government could possibly understand how to be President. That's just silly.Degeneratefk said:That last statement is an excellent point that is lost by most trump supporters.
The presidency is NOT an entry level position. But most trump supporters think that in order to go outside of the establishment, you need someone that has never been in politics. Not a good idea when most of his campaign revolves around foreign policy and foreign trade deals. I think trump vastly underestimates how experience in dealing with world leaders is more than just making a deal to host the miss universe pageant.will myself to find a home, a home within myself
we will find a way, we will find our place0 -
Gern Blansten said:
Saw Bernie on MTP or FTN this morning...can't remember which
He should have a pretty powerful speech at the convention. He was asked about who his supporters will support and he was pretty adamant that there is no other choice but Clinton if his supporters truly believe what he does.
So there...
So there what?Gern Blansten said:Saw Bernie on MTP or FTN this morning...can't remember which
He should have a pretty powerful speech at the convention. He was asked about who his supporters will support and he was pretty adamant that there is no other choice but Clinton if his supporters truly believe what he does.
So there...
That Bernie supporters will dutifully follow his word and vote Hillary "because he says so"?
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What's the conspiracy that forced Schultz to resign? That she was a Clinton supporter? Seems silly.will myself to find a home, a home within myself
we will find a way, we will find our place0 -
No it's the emails between staffers. I'm not sure if she was on any of those or not, but it's a CEO thing, in my mind.Degeneratefk said:What's the conspiracy that forced Schultz to resign? That she was a Clinton supporter? Seems silly.
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Yea, i dont see a problem with it. Why are they not allowed to have a preference?mrussel1 said:
No it's the emails between staffers. I'm not sure if she was on any of those or not, but it's a CEO thing, in my mind.Degeneratefk said:What's the conspiracy that forced Schultz to resign? That she was a Clinton supporter? Seems silly.
will myself to find a home, a home within myself
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Really?Degeneratefk said:
NoPJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Are not the best golf courses where real business is done?mrussel1 said:
8 years as a very active first lady, Senate term and Sec't of State. How can you say Trump's beauty pageants and golf courses supersedes the role of the chief diplomat?BS44325 said:
It depends on how you weigh people's accomplishments. In my eyes Kaine and Pence both have more experience then Clinton when it comes to government service. Trump's management of a global enterprise is different but far more approaches that of governor then anything Clinton has done.Degeneratefk said:
But it's still more experience than what Trump has.BS44325 said:
Being a senator for two years might look good on a resumé but it hardly makes you experienced. I believed the same about Rubio, Cruz and Rand Paul. There is a reason why that prior to the election of Obama the US has primarily elected governors. Governors make decisions while senators yap then vote while almost never having to deal with the consequences.Degeneratefk said:
That's not true at all. If I remember correctly, he was a senator.BS44325 said:
Obama had zero experience in 2008 and nobody cared. They didn't care when he ran against Hillary and they didn't care when he ran against McCain. Trump's real world experience easily outweighs both Clinton and Obama unless you think only people who have made their life inside government could possibly understand how to be President. That's just silly.Degeneratefk said:That last statement is an excellent point that is lost by most trump supporters.
The presidency is NOT an entry level position. But most trump supporters think that in order to go outside of the establishment, you need someone that has never been in politics. Not a good idea when most of his campaign revolves around foreign policy and foreign trade deals. I think trump vastly underestimates how experience in dealing with world leaders is more than just making a deal to host the miss universe pageant.
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I actually think the DNC as an organization should stay neutral. I don't think individuals need to be neutral because they have a vote too and have the right to advocate. But if you use official resources to or plot strategy against one of the candidates, that's a bridge too far. Now WhatDreams is busy going through the emails so she may disagree whether there is any fire there or not. But the perception, on the eve of the campaign, isn't great. DSW was going to leave after the convention, likely, anyway. So better to get this out of the way before the convention starts.Degeneratefk said:
Yea, i dont see a problem with it. Why are they not allowed to have a preference?mrussel1 said:
No it's the emails between staffers. I'm not sure if she was on any of those or not, but it's a CEO thing, in my mind.Degeneratefk said:What's the conspiracy that forced Schultz to resign? That she was a Clinton supporter? Seems silly.
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Yea, i see your point. If it's the worst thing the Democrats have to worry about, they should be fine.mrussel1 said:
I actually think the DNC as an organization should stay neutral. I don't think individuals need to be neutral because they have a vote too and have the right to advocate. But if you use official resources to or plot strategy against one of the candidates, that's a bridge too far. Now WhatDreams is busy going through the emails so she may disagree whether there is any fire there or not. But the perception, on the eve of the campaign, isn't great. DSW was going to leave after the convention, likely, anyway. So better to get this out of the way before the convention starts.Degeneratefk said:
Yea, i dont see a problem with it. Why are they not allowed to have a preference?mrussel1 said:
No it's the emails between staffers. I'm not sure if she was on any of those or not, but it's a CEO thing, in my mind.Degeneratefk said:What's the conspiracy that forced Schultz to resign? That she was a Clinton supporter? Seems silly.
will myself to find a home, a home within myself
we will find a way, we will find our place0 -
All you have proven is that people golf.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Really?Degeneratefk said:
NoPJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Are not the best golf courses where real business is done?mrussel1 said:
8 years as a very active first lady, Senate term and Sec't of State. How can you say Trump's beauty pageants and golf courses supersedes the role of the chief diplomat?BS44325 said:
It depends on how you weigh people's accomplishments. In my eyes Kaine and Pence both have more experience then Clinton when it comes to government service. Trump's management of a global enterprise is different but far more approaches that of governor then anything Clinton has done.Degeneratefk said:
But it's still more experience than what Trump has.BS44325 said:
Being a senator for two years might look good on a resumé but it hardly makes you experienced. I believed the same about Rubio, Cruz and Rand Paul. There is a reason why that prior to the election of Obama the US has primarily elected governors. Governors make decisions while senators yap then vote while almost never having to deal with the consequences.Degeneratefk said:
That's not true at all. If I remember correctly, he was a senator.BS44325 said:
Obama had zero experience in 2008 and nobody cared. They didn't care when he ran against Hillary and they didn't care when he ran against McCain. Trump's real world experience easily outweighs both Clinton and Obama unless you think only people who have made their life inside government could possibly understand how to be President. That's just silly.Degeneratefk said:That last statement is an excellent point that is lost by most trump supporters.
The presidency is NOT an entry level position. But most trump supporters think that in order to go outside of the establishment, you need someone that has never been in politics. Not a good idea when most of his campaign revolves around foreign policy and foreign trade deals. I think trump vastly underestimates how experience in dealing with world leaders is more than just making a deal to host the miss universe pageant.will myself to find a home, a home within myself
we will find a way, we will find our place0 -
I'm beginning to think Free won't be happy until every public building in DC is burned to the ground with our elected leaders in them. He is against everyone and everything, except Sanders, but now Stein. Unfortunately he has nothing positive to bring to the table regarding either one of those people or their positions. The Stein thread is dead -- probably because there's nothing serious to talk about -- and the Sanders thread is full of whiny complaints about our democracy being rigged -- even though all those people protesting democratically and lawfully will be able to vote in November. Last I checked, we are all still free to be ourselves in this great nation. Free speech, free assemby, free press (free to lie), religion, bearing arms -- ALL intact. If we're smart enough to know the law and our rights, we'll get a fair trial. We all have an opportunity to get an education and be whatever we want to be in this country, if we're willing to work for it. I'm not quite sure what the hell else people want when it comes to their democratic freedom.rgambs said:
Or maybe because he has voted that way?Free said:Oh, politicians aren't they swell? They can tell you one thing and do another. They will make promises and never act on them once elected. You've got a politician here with a history of being pro-life, yet people will eat it up that he's actually pro choice because he says he now is.
Really, guys? Think about this...
You claim to want representative democracy but you ridicule politicians who change their views to represent their constituents as flip-flippers? How does that square?
Do you want politicians who listen to the changing will of the people or politicians who "stick to their guns" even as the issues shift under them?
It seems to me if people really want Stein or Johnson to win, they would spend their time making their case and building them up. But they can't because they're too busy parroting the main stream media chanting "Lock her up" about Hillary and desperately trying to make up shit about Tim Kaine and excusing away Donald Trump's complete incompetence to be the leader of our free world.
But in politics, we know that's how people win. Call the opponents names, make up lies, exaggerate half truths. The Sanders faction are absolute experts at playing the very game they are trying to dismantle.0 -
Sanders needs to cut all this bullshit talk about us supporting anyone! I donated my time, money, and energy to fight against these shady politicians and now he's suggesting we support this garbage. F you for saying that, Sanders. This is bigger than Sanders and Clonton.Free said:Gern Blansten said:Saw Bernie on MTP or FTN this morning...can't remember which
He should have a pretty powerful speech at the convention. He was asked about who his supporters will support and he was pretty adamant that there is no other choice but Clinton if his supporters truly believe what he does.
So there...
So there what?Gern Blansten said:Saw Bernie on MTP or FTN this morning...can't remember which
He should have a pretty powerful speech at the convention. He was asked about who his supporters will support and he was pretty adamant that there is no other choice but Clinton if his supporters truly believe what he does.
So there...
That Bernie supporters will dutifully follow his word and vote Hillary "because he says so"?0 -
Schultz was National Co -Chair of Hillary's 2008 Presidential campaign.
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