It is way too soon for anybody to know what is happening. The coup is ongoing and controlling the media will be the key for both the military and the government. We will see crowds supporting both sides on tv but none of us will truly know what is happening on the ground. It will be a dangerous 24-48 hours.
It is way too soon for anybody to know what is happening. The coup is ongoing and controlling the media will be the key for both the military and the government. We will see crowds supporting both sides on tv but none of us will truly know what is happening on the ground. It will be a dangerous 24-48 hours.
i agree. we don't know for sure, and there is confusion as to what we actually know.
ertogan has promised consequences. he had better be careful. if he executes the wrong people, there will be people rioting in the streets again.
someone said on another forum that the leader was an exiled cleric who is living in pennsylvania :eek:
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
question, do you europeans look at turkey as more european or more of an outsider since the vast majority of turkey is in asia?
They are european ..at sports..way of life and all..has nothing to do like europe
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Who would the Islamist`s who attacked the Radiohead listening party want to be in power?
What a night...finnaly gives us permit so i can get some sleep..
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
60 people died..alot is police More than 1000 injured
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
It is way too soon for anybody to know what is happening. The coup is ongoing and controlling the media will be the key for both the military and the government. We will see crowds supporting both sides on tv but none of us will truly know what is happening on the ground. It will be a dangerous 24-48 hours.
i agree. we don't know for sure, and there is confusion as to what we actually know.
ertogan has promised consequences. he had better be careful. if he executes the wrong people, there will be people rioting in the streets again.
someone said on another forum that the leader was an exiled cleric who is living in pennsylvania :eek:
Fethullah Gulen came here in 1999, and got to stay thanks to Bill Clinton. And has donated a lot to the Clinton Foundation. The controversial Islamic cleric’s cozy relationship doesn’t stop with the Clinton's. In October, Gulen’s religious movement was accused of secretly funding up to 200 trips to Turkey for members of Congress and staff since 2008, and according to the USA Today report these trips may have repeatedly violated House rules and possibly federal law.
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
The major American media sucks so bad... there is an ongoing military coup involving the 2nd largest military in NATO and all they are talking about is Trump's VP on CNN, MSNBC, and FOX
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
8 military officer with a helicopter came land to Greece and ask for political asylum.. Cos the penalty for the coup is death.. Greece military arrest them They saying that they didnt know they took part in a coup..thought was a military drill..and learn about the coup from media. Turkey ask Greece to give them.back so pass trial in turkey I guess very soon we will give them.to turkey authorities
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
8 military officer with a helicopter came land to Greece and ask for political asylum.. Cos the penalty for the coup is death.. Greece military arrest them They saying that they didnt know they took part in a coup..thought was a military drill..and learn about the coup from media. Turkey ask Greece to give them.back so pass trial in turkey I guess very soon we will give them.to turkey authorities
Turkey doesn't have the death penalty (?) anymore.
If these people are facing the death penalty, wouln't it go against EU rules to send them back?
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
8 military officer with a helicopter came land to Greece and ask for political asylum.. Cos the penalty for the coup is death.. Greece military arrest them They saying that they didnt know they took part in a coup..thought was a military drill..and learn about the coup from media. Turkey ask Greece to give them.back so pass trial in turkey I guess very soon we will give them.to turkey authorities
Turkey doesn't have the death penalty (?) anymore.
If these people are facing the death penalty, wouln't it go against EU rules to send them back?
Thats the deal..penalty is death..but means life in prison..and ertogan can change it for this specific reason Do u really think turkey will be ever member of EU??not going to happen..noone want a country powerfull of 80 million citizens..never gonna happen And yes..is against Lausanne treaty to give back someone to.country ask them if has death penalty when he asks for political asylum But as u understand that means if greece r ssys no will be a mess and diplomat episode Noone wants that..and no matter what they made a coup against goverment electednfrom people..we will give them back for sure
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
8 military officer with a helicopter came land to Greece and ask for political asylum.. Cos the penalty for the coup is death.. Greece military arrest them They saying that they didnt know they took part in a coup..thought was a military drill..and learn about the coup from media. Turkey ask Greece to give them.back so pass trial in turkey I guess very soon we will give them.to turkey authorities
Turkey doesn't have the death penalty (?) anymore.
If these people are facing the death penalty, wouln't it go against EU rules to send them back?
Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan told a crowd chanting for the death penalty on Saturday that such demands may be discussed in parliament after a coup attempt by a faction in the military killed at least 161 people overnight.
8 military officer with a helicopter came land to Greece and ask for political asylum.. Cos the penalty for the coup is death.. Greece military arrest them They saying that they didnt know they took part in a coup..thought was a military drill..and learn about the coup from media. Turkey ask Greece to give them.back so pass trial in turkey I guess very soon we will give them.to turkey authorities
Turkey doesn't have the death penalty (?) anymore.
If these people are facing the death penalty, wouln't it go against EU rules to send them back?
Thats the deal..penalty is death..but means life in prison..and ertogan can change it for this specific reason Do u really think turkey will be ever member of EU??not going to happen..noone want a country powerfull of 80 million citizens..never gonna happen And yes..is against Lausanne treaty to give back someone to.country ask them if has death penalty when he asks for political asylum But as u understand that means if greece r ssys no will be a mess and diplomat episode Noone wants that..and no matter what they made a coup against goverment electednfrom people..we will give them back for sure
Wow. So did they give them back yet Dimitris??
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
ertogan is demanding that gulen be returned to turkey.
is high treason punishable by death? it used to be. i thought that was the one main reason DP can still be used? isn't that why all of these countries that execute people conveniently charge most of the perps with treason related crimes?
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
ertogan is demanding that gulen be returned to turkey.
is high treason punishable by death? it used to be. i thought that was the one main reason DP can still be used? isn't that why all of these countries that execute people conveniently charge most of the perps with treason related crimes?
The death penalty was removed 10-15 years ago in Turkey. They might bring it back. But then I don't see how Greece could return the fugitives...
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
8 military officer with a helicopter came land to Greece and ask for political asylum.. Cos the penalty for the coup is death.. Greece military arrest them They saying that they didnt know they took part in a coup..thought was a military drill..and learn about the coup from media. Turkey ask Greece to give them.back so pass trial in turkey I guess very soon we will give them.to turkey authorities
Turkey doesn't have the death penalty (?) anymore.
If these people are facing the death penalty, wouln't it go against EU rules to send them back?
Thats the deal..penalty is death..but means life in prison..and ertogan can change it for this specific reason Do u really think turkey will be ever member of EU??not going to happen..noone want a country powerfull of 80 million citizens..never gonna happen And yes..is against Lausanne treaty to give back someone to.country ask them if has death penalty when he asks for political asylum But as u understand that means if greece r ssys no will be a mess and diplomat episode Noone wants that..and no matter what they made a coup against goverment electednfrom people..we will give them back for sure
Wow. So did they give them back yet Dimitris??
Ok...already now we tslking turkish military arrive to greece to take back the turkish militsry helicopter As for 8 prisoners the going now to DA office..for the moment the charge in greece is illigal arrival in greece and attempt to create problem in interantional relationship between 2 countries So i guess after he charge them,monday morning will have the trial..after that it takes 8 days to answer turkey(or any other country ask ti return someone) about their demand to give them back..but..those 8 asked for political asylum..means greek authorities needs to go by international laws and check if there are reasons not to give them back,,for exable cant return to a country has death penalty....so in 2-3 weeks tops will be back to turkey The only statement turkish aythorities did for this matter was"in turkey we dont have death penalty" Greek authorities said"we will act by the international laws,BUT we will check very carefully the fact that those 8 military officer wanted to take down a democratic electer goverment of their country" So if u ask me..we will give them back for sure but we will play the "we act by the book of interantional laws"
"...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
ertogan has promised consequences. he had better be careful. if he executes the wrong people, there will be people rioting in the streets again.
someone said on another forum that the leader was an exiled cleric who is living in pennsylvania :eek:
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
More than 1000 injured
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/10/29/turkish-faith-movement-secretly-funded-200-trips-lawmakers-and-staff/74535104/
He has no worries about getting sent back to Turkey.
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
It was like this coup was stopped by the masses of unnarmed civilians pretty much?!
Feels like The Rock. With Ed Harris bluffing.
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/turkey-coup-conspiracy-theory-erdogan-military-gift-from-god-soldiers-istanbul-a7140516.html
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
Cos the penalty for the coup is death..
Greece military arrest them
They saying that they didnt know they took part in a coup..thought was a military drill..and learn about the coup from media.
Turkey ask Greece to give them.back so pass trial in turkey
I guess very soon we will give them.to turkey authorities
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
If these people are facing the death penalty, wouln't it go against EU rules to send them back?
Do u really think turkey will be ever member of EU??not going to happen..noone want a country powerfull of 80 million citizens..never gonna happen
And yes..is against Lausanne treaty to give back someone to.country ask them if has death penalty when he asks for political asylum
But as u understand that means if greece r ssys no will be a mess and diplomat episode
Noone wants that..and no matter what they made a coup against goverment electednfrom people..we will give them back for sure
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/reuters/news/report/20160716_Reuters_I7N18201B_Erdogan_says_Turkey_may_discuss_death_penalty_after_coup_attempt.html
Looks like they might shortly.
is high treason punishable by death? it used to be. i thought that was the one main reason DP can still be used? isn't that why all of these countries that execute people conveniently charge most of the perps with treason related crimes?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/13/new-ties-emerge-between-clinton-and-mysterious-islamic-cleric/
As for 8 prisoners the going now to DA office..for the moment the charge in greece is illigal arrival in greece and attempt to create problem in interantional relationship between 2 countries
So i guess after he charge them,monday morning will have the trial..after that it takes 8 days to answer turkey(or any other country ask ti return someone) about their demand to give them back..but..those 8 asked for political asylum..means greek authorities needs to go by international laws and check if there are reasons not to give them back,,for exable cant return to a country has death penalty....so in 2-3 weeks tops will be back to turkey
The only statement turkish aythorities did for this matter was"in turkey we dont have death penalty"
Greek authorities said"we will act by the international laws,BUT we will check very carefully the fact that those 8 military officer wanted to take down a democratic electer goverment of their country"
So if u ask me..we will give them back for sure but we will play the "we act by the book of interantional laws"
"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
“..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..