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Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,237
edited July 2016 in A Moving Train
bbc.com/news/world-europe-36809083
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,683
    edited July 2016
    Crazy man. From what I read briefly about 10 minutes ago, the coup is failing. But I don't know if that is just political rhetoric or true. In fact, the government won't even acknowledge the term "coup", lol. Okay buddy. Sounds like an attempted coup to me, but whatever. I have seen nothing about the motivations or political stance of those attempting this. Sinister? Noble? No idea.
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,124
    What could go wrong?

    I guess building yourself a 1,100 room palace for a billion dollars might draw some negative attention ...
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    KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,776
    Do NATO members have any role to play in helping a NATO ally with this situation?

    Falling down,...not staying down
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,043
    Kat said:

    Do NATO members have any role to play in helping a NATO ally with this situation?

    I'd say no. this is an internal thing. nato deals with the external.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,683
    Kat said:

    Do NATO members have any role to play in helping a NATO ally with this situation?

    I think if they are asked by the government to help they are obligated to do so.
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,124
    I saw a report that the military stated all current relations will stay the same and that the coup is to retain democracy. Their prez had been centralizing power.
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,237
    So weird this can happen in a European country in 2016. Even if Erdogan (or whatever his name is) is a fucking idiot.

    Man. The world.

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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,124
    This will be the sixth military coup in Turkey since 1960 if it's really happening.
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,413
    Yeah..just got call from work..we are in alert cos of the coup in turkey and we all going in the base and be prepared for anything
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,625
    Doesn't sound like a good thing...
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,413
    Military got airport..got all bridges..a helicopter fired at a building..military gave order to citizens not to be in streets
    Frim the other hand alot of mayors of cities telling people to go on the streets and demostrate against military
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,625
    PM denied landing in Istanbul. Seeking asylum in Germany
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,237
    Seems Erdogan have fled in his private jet.

    And the military are in control?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,237
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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,625
    Um, Chuck Todd just said there is a possibility that we have nuclear weapons in Turkey...
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,413
    Kat said:

    Do NATO members have any role to play in helping a NATO ally with this situation?

    Not really ..but usa will pressure for sure this to end asap...ertogan.turkish president destroy all relationships with allies and in in fight with all!!from usa and russia to israel and syria..
    Facebook.twitter all social medis is down at turkwy
    The military took over national tv as well
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,237
    Now it seems that Erdogan have landed in Istanbul?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam NINUNINOPRO Posts: 139,413
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    Now it seems that Erdogan have landed in Istanbul?

    I juat saw the skype call he did..not sure where he did it from
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,237
    dimitrispearljam said:

    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    Now it seems that Erdogan have landed in Istanbul?

    I juat saw the skype call he did..not sure where he did it from
    #Turkey Erdogan in airplane, refused landing at #Istanbul, now trying to seek asylum in Germany, US defense officials say, @MSNBC
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    Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 29,237
    Cliffy6745 said:

    Um, Chuck Todd just said there is a possibility that we have nuclear weapons in Turkey...

    You (the US) have nuclear weapons in Turkey.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    This is internal and NATO has no part to play. Erdogan has not been an ally to the west and has become more authoritarian and Islamist over the years. Based on his behaviour and Turkish history this coup was bound to happen at some point. The west has no incentive to prop up his regime.
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,970
    edited July 2016
    question, do you europeans look at turkey as more european or more of an outsider since the vast majority of turkey is in asia?
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    jnimhaoileoinjnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    mcgruff10 said:

    question, do you europeans look at turkey as more european or more of an outsider since the vast majority of turkey is in asia?

    We see them as more European than Asian certainly. However we do acknowledge the obvious differences. They're kind of in a cultural limbo of sorts
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,625
    Don't think this is going to work...

    I am all for a secular government and military but this is a democracy
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    Dr. DelightDr. Delight Posts: 11,210
    Reports that the coup is already falling apart.
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,625
    Dr. Delight said:

    Reports that the coup is already falling apart.

    Looks that way. Can't overthrow democracy
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,625
    Where is all this traffic going?
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,190
    i read an hour ago that he was seeking asylum in tehran. can't find that info right now though.

    we are in crazy times.

    is this going to be the arab summer?
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    jnimhaoileoinjnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    edited July 2016
    This article makes me sympathise with the military. Criminalising adultery?!

    http://www.thejournal.ie/turkey-coup-explainer-whats-going-on-2880911-Jul2016/?utm_source=facebook_short
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    bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,593
    edited July 2016
    Ertogan was probably behind the coup. Use it as an excuse to consolidate more power.

    The Muslim world can't get its shit together.
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