Hillary won more votes for President

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  • Free
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    mrussel1 said:

    Free said:

    This is from a non bias site, Pew Research Center. It's not exactly Clinton 77%, Trump 22%...

    2016 Campaign: Strong Interest, Widespread Dissatisfaction


    http://www.people-press.org/2016/07/07/2016-campaign-strong-interest-widespread-dissatisfaction/

    77-22 is not polling numbers. It's the chance of winning the POTUS using the Electoral College.
    I didn't say it was, that is the introduction of the article. See all the graphs when you check out the article too.
  • mrussel1
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    Free said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Free said:

    This is from a non bias site, Pew Research Center. It's not exactly Clinton 77%, Trump 22%...

    2016 Campaign: Strong Interest, Widespread Dissatisfaction


    http://www.people-press.org/2016/07/07/2016-campaign-strong-interest-widespread-dissatisfaction/

    77-22 is not polling numbers. It's the chance of winning the POTUS using the Electoral College.
    I didn't say it was, that is the introduction of the article. See all the graphs when you check out the article too.
    Gern and I both read your post that way. Pew is very good. They were very accurate in 12. I don't doubt these numbers, nor do I doubt her 9 point lead that it gives her.
  • Ledbetterman10
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    mrussel1 said:

    Ledbetterman10 said:

    mrussel1 said:



    Based on what? Obama was up by 5 or 6 in June.

    He ran against a well-spoken former governor. She's running against a corrupt, psychotic, quasi-racist. She's like a #1 seed that easily won her conference (the democratic primary) and on paper, should totally kill the fluky wildcard team that somehow defied all logic by winning their conference (Trump). Yet he's still very much in the game.
    I disagree. Bernie still has yet to endorse, and that's coming next week. I think she is doing fine. I don't recall Obama having 8-11 point leads at all in '12 but HRC has those in some polls. Most importantly, the electoral map looks really good for her right now. She has the Obama states and is tight in AZ, NC, NH, etc. I think she is in solid shape considering the email deal. And there's no evidence Trump will improve his performance. His two speeches this week were rambling 65 minute lists of petty grievances and stream of consciousness. That aint' changing.
    Well I definitely agree that Trump continues to shoot himself in the foot. And I'm not sure he'll improve his improve his performance either. And considering how bad the email thing could have been, yeah, I guess she's weathered the storm. But she's nearly deadlocked in PA, OH, and FL and that's cause for concern.
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    mrussel1 said:

    Free said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Free said:

    This is from a non bias site, Pew Research Center. It's not exactly Clinton 77%, Trump 22%...

    2016 Campaign: Strong Interest, Widespread Dissatisfaction


    http://www.people-press.org/2016/07/07/2016-campaign-strong-interest-widespread-dissatisfaction/

    77-22 is not polling numbers. It's the chance of winning the POTUS using the Electoral College.
    I didn't say it was, that is the introduction of the article. See all the graphs when you check out the article too.
    Gern and I both read your post that way. Pew is very good. They were very accurate in 12. I don't doubt these numbers, nor do I doubt her 9 point lead that it gives her.
    Did you even read the article?
  • mrussel1
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    Free said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Free said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Free said:

    This is from a non bias site, Pew Research Center. It's not exactly Clinton 77%, Trump 22%...

    2016 Campaign: Strong Interest, Widespread Dissatisfaction


    http://www.people-press.org/2016/07/07/2016-campaign-strong-interest-widespread-dissatisfaction/

    77-22 is not polling numbers. It's the chance of winning the POTUS using the Electoral College.
    I didn't say it was, that is the introduction of the article. See all the graphs when you check out the article too.
    Gern and I both read your post that way. Pew is very good. They were very accurate in 12. I don't doubt these numbers, nor do I doubt her 9 point lead that it gives her.
    Did you even read the article?
    Yes. I read it yesterday when it came out. Why? What are you trying to point out?
  • mattsl1983
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    Why should I vote for Hillary? Honest question.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680
    mattsl1983 said:

    Why should I vote for Hillary? Honest question.

    Because she has to beat Trump.
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  • dignin
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    PJ_Soul said:

    mattsl1983 said:

    Why should I vote for Hillary? Honest question.

    Because she has to beat Trump.
    Enough said. I'm convinced. Seriously.
  • mattsl1983
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    What is so terrible about trump that I should vote for his opponent blindly then? I find that to be a bit of an absurd answer.
  • mrussel1
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    If that's where you are, you've either not paid attention or his antics don't bother you.
  • Dirtie_Frank
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    I second matts|1983 question, other than stating she is not Trump why should someone vote for HRC?
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  • Free
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    mattsl1983 said:

    What is so terrible about trump that I should vote for his opponent blindly then? I find that to be a bit of an absurd answer.

    Exactly
  • dignin
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    mrussel1 said:

    If that's where you are, you've either not paid attention or his antics don't bother you.

    Like Trump said, he could shoot someone and they would still vote for him. He loves the poorly educated and all.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680
    edited July 2016
    mattsl1983 said:

    What is so terrible about trump that I should vote for his opponent blindly then? I find that to be a bit of an absurd answer.

    Seriously?
    Go over to the Trump thread and read up on why it's not absurd at all. :) I think he is a million times more terrible than Hillary. He can't be allowed to win. Simple as that.
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  • Free
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    edited July 2016
    Would Donald Trump Quit if He Wins the Election? He Doesn’t Rule It Out

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/08/us/politics/donald-trump-president.html

    ... And that was just verifies what I've been saying the whole time. I am not worried about Trump winning.
    Post edited by Free on
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,680
    edited July 2016
    I don't think he would do that, but I still wouldn't be surprised if he did. I don't think he decided to run with the idea that he might actually be President. It was just a big fucking reality TV shows that he decided to take on without really considering the ultimate consequences if he actually managed to pull it off.
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  • mrussel1
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    mattsl1983 said:

    What is so terrible about trump that I should vote for his opponent blindly then? I find that to be a bit of an absurd answer.

    So which is it? Are you an uninformed voter or do you agree with his positions?
  • Gern Blansten
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    mattsl1983 said:

    What is so terrible about trump that I should vote for his opponent blindly then? I find that to be a bit of an absurd answer.

    I find it absurd that anyone would vote for Trump.
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  • Free
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    edited July 2016
    mrussel1 said:

    mattsl1983 said:

    What is so terrible about trump that I should vote for his opponent blindly then? I find that to be a bit of an absurd answer.

    So which is it? Are you an uninformed voter or do you agree with his positions?
    Are you not gonna answer his question? Mocking him is not answering the question.
  • mrussel1
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    Free said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mattsl1983 said:

    What is so terrible about trump that I should vote for his opponent blindly then? I find that to be a bit of an absurd answer.

    So which is it? Are you an uninformed voter or do you agree with his positions?
    Are you not gonna answer his question? Mocking him is not answering the question.
    His question has a false premise. No one has asked anyone to vote for Hillary uninformed. No one is falling for that trick.
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