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  • PJ_Soul said:

    jeffbr said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    dignin said:

    brexit

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    I really hate those adults who just stood there watching that kid do that.
    I am 50/50 on that. Kids are unpredictable and fast.
    That kids wasn't moving fast, and that guy is standing right there not moving a muscle.
    Yeah, I was glad to see the kitty save itself and was happy to see the little shit fall in. With any luck that was an object lesson for future behavior that should have been taught by the adults. I hope an adult or two fell in while rescuing the kid. Shame on the adults.
    :lol: Yeah, my thoughts exactly.
    Maybe there should have been a sign "No throwing cats in the pool"
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    jeffbr said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    dignin said:

    brexit

    image

    I really hate those adults who just stood there watching that kid do that.
    I am 50/50 on that. Kids are unpredictable and fast.
    That kids wasn't moving fast, and that guy is standing right there not moving a muscle.
    Yeah, I was glad to see the kitty save itself and was happy to see the little shit fall in. With any luck that was an object lesson for future behavior that should have been taught by the adults. I hope an adult or two fell in while rescuing the kid. Shame on the adults.
    Agreed too.

    (yup, I'm getting in on the lovefest!)
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    edited June 2016
    PJ_Soul said:

    lukin2006 said:

    and not everyone who voted to leave the eu is rascist, not even close i suspect.

    Maybe... I guess. But It does seem like most did vote to leave specifically because they wanted to stem immigration, and there aren't really any good arguments against immigration in Britain in terms of economics, so what else is pissing so many people off when it comes to immigrants? I think a lot of it really does have to do with racism. I'm sure many of those people don't consider themselves racist, but I think their reasoning is still largely based in racist principles, or at least xenophobia. Yes, there is the issue of social services/resources that I'm sure Brits want for themselves. IF a Leave voter had that kind of reasoning, well, I question their thought processes. Separation from the EU will likely cause more strain on Britain than immigrants do. However, I understand that logic. No country should be allowing immigrants in when there aren't proper resources to sustain the increase in population, and when policies create problems (one I can think of for Canada is that there are no requirements for immigrants to settle in communities that could really benefit from their presence. They can just enter Canada and go and work and live wherever they want, which is overwhelmingly in the large cities where there are housing shortages and traffic problems and what not, while the smaller cities and towns struggle to maintain their populations and their work forces. That's really, really stupid IMO. And I blame that on Immigration Canada, not immigrants).

    Well anyway, after writing this post, I googled around a bit about why 51% Brits don't like immigrants in Britain (besides out of racism or xenophobia, which I still maintain has a lot fo do with the Leave side winning), and found these articles, which I think are informative, or at least interesting.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/immigration-is-good-for-growth-so-why-is-the-public-so-hostile-to-it-a6759246.html

    http://www.lifehacker.co.uk/2016/06/22/is-immigration-really-good-or-bad-for-britain-here-are-the-best-arguments

    http://www.vox.com/2016/6/23/12005814/brexit-eu-referendum-immigrants
    I'll eventually read those articles ... But for now we'll have to agree to disagree. As for Canada, we have some serious First Nations issues that we can't solve, but always seem to have cash to help everyone else out...ridiculous.
    Post edited by lukin2006 on
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,655
    lukin2006 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    lukin2006 said:

    and not everyone who voted to leave the eu is rascist, not even close i suspect.

    Maybe... I guess. But It does seem like most did vote to leave specifically because they wanted to stem immigration, and there aren't really any good arguments against immigration in Britain in terms of economics, so what else is pissing so many people off when it comes to immigrants? I think a lot of it really does have to do with racism. I'm sure many of those people don't consider themselves racist, but I think their reasoning is still largely based in racist principles, or at least xenophobia. Yes, there is the issue of social services/resources that I'm sure Brits want for themselves. IF a Leave voter had that kind of reasoning, well, I question their thought processes. Separation from the EU will likely cause more strain on Britain than immigrants do. However, I understand that logic. No country should be allowing immigrants in when there aren't proper resources to sustain the increase in population, and when policies create problems (one I can think of for Canada is that there are no requirements for immigrants to settle in communities that could really benefit from their presence. They can just enter Canada and go and work and live wherever they want, which is overwhelmingly in the large cities where there are housing shortages and traffic problems and what not, while the smaller cities and towns struggle to maintain their populations and their work forces. That's really, really stupid IMO. And I blame that on Immigration Canada, not immigrants).

    Well anyway, after writing this post, I googled around a bit about why 51% Brits don't like immigrants in Britain (besides out of racism or xenophobia, which I still maintain has a lot fo do with the Leave side winning), and found these articles, which I think are informative, or at least interesting.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/immigration-is-good-for-growth-so-why-is-the-public-so-hostile-to-it-a6759246.html

    http://www.lifehacker.co.uk/2016/06/22/is-immigration-really-good-or-bad-for-britain-here-are-the-best-arguments

    http://www.vox.com/2016/6/23/12005814/brexit-eu-referendum-immigrants
    I'll eventually read those articles ... But for now we'll have to agree to disagree. As for Canada, we have some serious First Nations issues that we can't solve, but always seem to have cash to help everyone else out...ridiculous.
    The First Nations issues have absolutely nothing to do with not having enough cash.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    ^^^Where is the cash? The federal government and pretty much every province is in the hole financially. Anyways back to the thread topic.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • ^^^
    Let's send this to Canadian politics.
    Sorry for the quick interruption folks.
  • Spags
    Spags Leigh-on-Sea, UK Posts: 3,057
    Tory leadership - place your bets!

    - Theresa May
    - Michael Gove
    - Stephen Crabb
    - Liam Fox
    - Andrea Leadsom
    Nature drunk and High
  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    edited June 2016
    Spags said:

    Tory leadership - place your bets!

    - Theresa May
    - Michael Gove
    - Stephen Crabb
    - Liam Fox
    - Andrea Leadsom

    Well which of them voted remain and which voted to leave?
    Post edited by jnimhaoileoin on
  • Spags
    Spags Leigh-on-Sea, UK Posts: 3,057
    Not sure its that simple, May was Remain but she has a decent chance of it - although Gove is supported by Rupert Murdoch so I expect he'll be the next PM.

    Things have been so nuts lately tho who knows whats gonna happen next!
    Nature drunk and High
  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    Might be interesting to have a woman (who isn't in the Maggie Thatcher vein)
  • Spags
    Spags Leigh-on-Sea, UK Posts: 3,057
    Women running both the UK and the USA would be interesting for sure.
    Nature drunk and High
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,655
    Spags said:

    Women running both the UK and the USA would be interesting for sure.

    For the UK, not really, since it wouldn't be the first time for them.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Spags
    Spags Leigh-on-Sea, UK Posts: 3,057
    Thatcher wasn't really a woman tho...
    Nature drunk and High
  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    Spags said:

    Thatcher wasn't really a woman tho...

    Yeah I really don't think we want her held up as being a representative of women!
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,655
    edited June 2016
    Yeah, she was the devil, but still a woman you guys, come on. :lol:
    My mom actually bought the best souvenir back when we were in England in the 80s. It's this kind of high-end jack in the box. Margaret Thatcher pops out of it, with her arms raised hysterically in the air and this blustery expression on her face. I love it. :lol:
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,010
    PJ_Soul said:

    Yeah, she was the devil, but still a woman you guys, come on. :lol:
    My mom actually bought the best souvenir back when we were in England in the 80s. It's this kind of high-end jack in the box. Margaret Thatcher pops out of it, with her arms raised hysterically in the air and this blustery expression on her face. I love it. :lol:

    that is an absolutely frightening image.

    i remember being a kid and being fond of her. then i became an adult and read up on her policies. i was then all like "man, what was i thinking??"
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    PJ_Soul said:

    Yeah, she was the devil, but still a woman you guys, come on. :lol:
    My mom actually bought the best souvenir back when we were in England in the 80s. It's this kind of high-end jack in the box. Margaret Thatcher pops out of it, with her arms raised hysterically in the air and this blustery expression on her face. I love it. :lol:

    that is an absolutely frightening image.

    i remember being a kid and being fond of her. then i became an adult and read up on her policies. i was then all like "man, what was i thinking??"
    The kid was smart.
  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Yeah, she was the devil, but still a woman you guys, come on. :lol:
    My mom actually bought the best souvenir back when we were in England in the 80s. It's this kind of high-end jack in the box. Margaret Thatcher pops out of it, with her arms raised hysterically in the air and this blustery expression on her face. I love it. :lol:

    that is an absolutely frightening image.

    i remember being a kid and being fond of her. then i became an adult and read up on her policies. i was then all like "man, what was i thinking??"
    The kid was smart.
    Why am I not surprised that you're a fan of Maggie
  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    All Irish kids knew this rhyme when I was growing up

    Here's Maggie Thatcher, throw her up and catch her
    Squish squash, squish squash
    Here's Maggie Thatcher

    Needless to say, she was not popular