European Union vote 2016

jeffbr said:

PJ_Soul said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

dignin said:

brexit

I really hate those adults who just stood there watching that kid do that.

I am 50/50 on that. Kids are unpredictable and fast.

That kids wasn't moving fast, and that guy is standing right there not moving a muscle.

Yeah, I was glad to see the kitty save itself and was happy to see the little shit fall in. With any luck that was an object lesson for future behavior that should have been taught by the adults. I hope an adult or two fell in while rescuing the kid. Shame on the adults.

lukin2006 said:

PJ_Soul said:

lukin2006 said:

and not everyone who voted to leave the eu is rascist, not even close i suspect.

Maybe... I guess. But It does seem like most did vote to leave specifically because they wanted to stem immigration, and there aren't really any good arguments against immigration in Britain in terms of economics, so what else is pissing so many people off when it comes to immigrants? I think a lot of it really does have to do with racism. I'm sure many of those people don't consider themselves racist, but I think their reasoning is still largely based in racist principles, or at least xenophobia. Yes, there is the issue of social services/resources that I'm sure Brits want for themselves. IF a Leave voter had that kind of reasoning, well, I question their thought processes. Separation from the EU will likely cause more strain on Britain than immigrants do. However, I understand that logic. No country should be allowing immigrants in when there aren't proper resources to sustain the increase in population, and when policies create problems (one I can think of for Canada is that there are no requirements for immigrants to settle in communities that could really benefit from their presence. They can just enter Canada and go and work and live wherever they want, which is overwhelmingly in the large cities where there are housing shortages and traffic problems and what not, while the smaller cities and towns struggle to maintain their populations and their work forces. That's really, really stupid IMO. And I blame that on Immigration Canada, not immigrants).

Well anyway, after writing this post, I googled around a bit about why 51% Brits don't like immigrants in Britain (besides out of racism or xenophobia, which I still maintain has a lot fo do with the Leave side winning), and found these articles, which I think are informative, or at least interesting.

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/immigration-is-good-for-growth-so-why-is-the-public-so-hostile-to-it-a6759246.html

http://www.lifehacker.co.uk/2016/06/22/is-immigration-really-good-or-bad-for-britain-here-are-the-best-arguments

http://www.vox.com/2016/6/23/12005814/brexit-eu-referendum-immigrants

I'll eventually read those articles ... But for now we'll have to agree to disagree. As for Canada, we have some serious First Nations issues that we can't solve, but always seem to have cash to help everyone else out...ridiculous.

Spags said:

Tory leadership - place your bets!

- Theresa May
- Michael Gove
- Stephen Crabb
- Liam Fox
- Andrea Leadsom

Spags said:

Women running both the UK and the USA would be interesting for sure.

Spags said:

Thatcher wasn't really a woman tho...

PJ_Soul said:

Yeah, she was the devil, but still a woman you guys, come on.
My mom actually bought the best souvenir back when we were in England in the 80s. It's this kind of high-end jack in the box. Margaret Thatcher pops out of it, with her arms raised hysterically in the air and this blustery expression on her face. I love it.