Trump

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJFan, I do not like Trump. I do not hate him. I don't hate anyone. I do very much hate actions of people. I seriously fear for our country if he is at the helm. You don't live here, right? If you do, vote as you want but know this loud and clear, my vote will not be for Trump-- even if a gun was placed to my head. I don't need to back up my claim of worry. It's how I feel and I don't need to defend it. I have a 12 1/2 year old who has decided through news and reading that he is not her candidate, either. I will take advantage of my right to vote and exercise it as my heart directs me to.

You don't need to back up your claim? Decided via news and reading that it is not your candidate?
What about his positions and how he will put them to action have you read any, at all?
Pick one and say why it will fail https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions

No one ever talks about his plans or policies. They are clearly laid out on his site.
Tell me why his plans won't work.

No, I don't need to back up my opinion. I will not read his link no matter how many times you link to it. I don't need to defend. I won't fall for your baiting. Nice try, though.

If you love him so much, perhaps we should send him on to you so that you may elect him and enjoy his policies. I wouldn't fight you for him. I promise. You can have him and enjoy him.

As for me, I will be voting otherwise.

You don't need to back up your opinion?

No, I don't. You see, I'm not trying to change your opinion. Your opinion is your opinion. I feel no need to defend my opinion to you and what's funny is that it seems like it bugs the shit out of you.

Hurry up! Attack, delete, edit to a period! Makes you the innocent one, right? Won't fall for it. Nice attempt, though.

I will not be voting for Trump but then again, you won't either.

Cute post.
Not defending your opinion, kind of like Trump.

Isn't that what you like so much about him?

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Degeneratefk said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJFan, I do not like Trump. I do not hate him. I don't hate anyone. I do very much hate actions of people. I seriously fear for our country if he is at the helm. You don't live here, right? If you do, vote as you want but know this loud and clear, my vote will not be for Trump-- even if a gun was placed to my head. I don't need to back up my claim of worry. It's how I feel and I don't need to defend it. I have a 12 1/2 year old who has decided through news and reading that he is not her candidate, either. I will take advantage of my right to vote and exercise it as my heart directs me to.

You don't need to back up your claim? Decided via news and reading that it is not your candidate?
What about his positions and how he will put them to action have you read any, at all?
Pick one and say why it will fail https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions

No one ever talks about his plans or policies. They are clearly laid out on his site.
Tell me why his plans won't work.

No, I don't need to back up my opinion. I will not read his link no matter how many times you link to it. I don't need to defend. I won't fall for your baiting. Nice try, though.

If you love him so much, perhaps we should send him on to you so that you may elect him and enjoy his policies. I wouldn't fight you for him. I promise. You can have him and enjoy him.

As for me, I will be voting otherwise.

You don't need to back up your opinion?

No, I don't. You see, I'm not trying to change your opinion. Your opinion is your opinion. I feel no need to defend my opinion to you and what's funny is that it seems like it bugs the shit out of you.

Hurry up! Attack, delete, edit to a period! Makes you the innocent one, right? Won't fall for it. Nice attempt, though.

I will not be voting for Trump but then again, you won't either.

Cute post.
Not defending your opinion, kind of like Trump.

Isn't that what you like so much about him?

I find it fascinating the whatever Trump thinks or says out loud the world listens and reacts.
What other POTUS commands that attention?

Well the world listens and reacts to things Kanye West says and he's a talentless hack.

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Degeneratefk said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJFan, I do not like Trump. I do not hate him. I don't hate anyone. I do very much hate actions of people. I seriously fear for our country if he is at the helm. You don't live here, right? If you do, vote as you want but know this loud and clear, my vote will not be for Trump-- even if a gun was placed to my head. I don't need to back up my claim of worry. It's how I feel and I don't need to defend it. I have a 12 1/2 year old who has decided through news and reading that he is not her candidate, either. I will take advantage of my right to vote and exercise it as my heart directs me to.

You don't need to back up your claim? Decided via news and reading that it is not your candidate?
What about his positions and how he will put them to action have you read any, at all?
Pick one and say why it will fail https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions

No one ever talks about his plans or policies. They are clearly laid out on his site.
Tell me why his plans won't work.

No, I don't need to back up my opinion. I will not read his link no matter how many times you link to it. I don't need to defend. I won't fall for your baiting. Nice try, though.

If you love him so much, perhaps we should send him on to you so that you may elect him and enjoy his policies. I wouldn't fight you for him. I promise. You can have him and enjoy him.

As for me, I will be voting otherwise.

You don't need to back up your opinion?

No, I don't. You see, I'm not trying to change your opinion. Your opinion is your opinion. I feel no need to defend my opinion to you and what's funny is that it seems like it bugs the shit out of you.

Hurry up! Attack, delete, edit to a period! Makes you the innocent one, right? Won't fall for it. Nice attempt, though.

I will not be voting for Trump but then again, you won't either.

Cute post.
Not defending your opinion, kind of like Trump.

Isn't that what you like so much about him?

I find it fascinating the whatever Trump thinks or says out loud the world listens and reacts.
What other POTUS commands that attention?

He's not a POTUS
Hes a carnival barker
A snake oil salesman
A con man
The host of a reality show
Certainly not a POTUS

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Bentleyspop said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Degeneratefk said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJFan, I do not like Trump. I do not hate him. I don't hate anyone. I do very much hate actions of people. I seriously fear for our country if he is at the helm. You don't live here, right? If you do, vote as you want but know this loud and clear, my vote will not be for Trump-- even if a gun was placed to my head. I don't need to back up my claim of worry. It's how I feel and I don't need to defend it. I have a 12 1/2 year old who has decided through news and reading that he is not her candidate, either. I will take advantage of my right to vote and exercise it as my heart directs me to.

You don't need to back up your claim? Decided via news and reading that it is not your candidate?
What about his positions and how he will put them to action have you read any, at all?
Pick one and say why it will fail https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions

No one ever talks about his plans or policies. They are clearly laid out on his site.
Tell me why his plans won't work.

No, I don't need to back up my opinion. I will not read his link no matter how many times you link to it. I don't need to defend. I won't fall for your baiting. Nice try, though.

If you love him so much, perhaps we should send him on to you so that you may elect him and enjoy his policies. I wouldn't fight you for him. I promise. You can have him and enjoy him.

As for me, I will be voting otherwise.

You don't need to back up your opinion?

No, I don't. You see, I'm not trying to change your opinion. Your opinion is your opinion. I feel no need to defend my opinion to you and what's funny is that it seems like it bugs the shit out of you.

Hurry up! Attack, delete, edit to a period! Makes you the innocent one, right? Won't fall for it. Nice attempt, though.

I will not be voting for Trump but then again, you won't either.

Cute post.
Not defending your opinion, kind of like Trump.

Isn't that what you like so much about him?

I find it fascinating the whatever Trump thinks or says out loud the world listens and reacts.
What other POTUS commands that attention?

He's not a POTUS
Hes a carnival barker
A snake oil salesman
A con man
The host of a reality show
Certainly not a POTUS

I know he is not POTUS.
But he gets this global attention without being one imagine if he was.

Don't you really think he's the only guy that has that sort of persona?

Ledbetterman10 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Degeneratefk said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJFan, I do not like Trump. I do not hate him. I don't hate anyone. I do very much hate actions of people. I seriously fear for our country if he is at the helm. You don't live here, right? If you do, vote as you want but know this loud and clear, my vote will not be for Trump-- even if a gun was placed to my head. I don't need to back up my claim of worry. It's how I feel and I don't need to defend it. I have a 12 1/2 year old who has decided through news and reading that he is not her candidate, either. I will take advantage of my right to vote and exercise it as my heart directs me to.

You don't need to back up your claim? Decided via news and reading that it is not your candidate?
What about his positions and how he will put them to action have you read any, at all?
Pick one and say why it will fail https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions

No one ever talks about his plans or policies. They are clearly laid out on his site.
Tell me why his plans won't work.

No, I don't need to back up my opinion. I will not read his link no matter how many times you link to it. I don't need to defend. I won't fall for your baiting. Nice try, though.

If you love him so much, perhaps we should send him on to you so that you may elect him and enjoy his policies. I wouldn't fight you for him. I promise. You can have him and enjoy him.

As for me, I will be voting otherwise.

You don't need to back up your opinion?

No, I don't. You see, I'm not trying to change your opinion. Your opinion is your opinion. I feel no need to defend my opinion to you and what's funny is that it seems like it bugs the shit out of you.

Hurry up! Attack, delete, edit to a period! Makes you the innocent one, right? Won't fall for it. Nice attempt, though.

I will not be voting for Trump but then again, you won't either.

Cute post.
Not defending your opinion, kind of like Trump.

Isn't that what you like so much about him?

I find it fascinating the whatever Trump thinks or says out loud the world listens and reacts.
What other POTUS commands that attention?

Well the world listens and reacts to things Kanye West says and he's a talentless hack.

And the way Americans love their celebs in a godlike way Kanye could run for POTUS with Kim as Vice and they would be in serious contention for the WH.

And Trump's success in this election has kinda opened the door for that sort of thing.

Why are we acting like this is the first time this happened? Ronald Reagan was a cowboy in movies, and somehow became a revered president. Al Franken was Stuart Smalley, Arnold was in Twins, Jesse Ventura was a professional wrestler. Is this all that surprising?

Jearlpam0925 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Degeneratefk said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJFan, I do not like Trump. I do not hate him. I don't hate anyone. I do very much hate actions of people. I seriously fear for our country if he is at the helm. You don't live here, right? If you do, vote as you want but know this loud and clear, my vote will not be for Trump-- even if a gun was placed to my head. I don't need to back up my claim of worry. It's how I feel and I don't need to defend it. I have a 12 1/2 year old who has decided through news and reading that he is not her candidate, either. I will take advantage of my right to vote and exercise it as my heart directs me to.

You don't need to back up your claim? Decided via news and reading that it is not your candidate?
What about his positions and how he will put them to action have you read any, at all?
Pick one and say why it will fail https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions

No one ever talks about his plans or policies. They are clearly laid out on his site.
Tell me why his plans won't work.

No, I don't need to back up my opinion. I will not read his link no matter how many times you link to it. I don't need to defend. I won't fall for your baiting. Nice try, though.

If you love him so much, perhaps we should send him on to you so that you may elect him and enjoy his policies. I wouldn't fight you for him. I promise. You can have him and enjoy him.

As for me, I will be voting otherwise.

You don't need to back up your opinion?

No, I don't. You see, I'm not trying to change your opinion. Your opinion is your opinion. I feel no need to defend my opinion to you and what's funny is that it seems like it bugs the shit out of you.

Hurry up! Attack, delete, edit to a period! Makes you the innocent one, right? Won't fall for it. Nice attempt, though.

I will not be voting for Trump but then again, you won't either.

Cute post.
Not defending your opinion, kind of like Trump.

Isn't that what you like so much about him?

I find it fascinating the whatever Trump thinks or says out loud the world listens and reacts.
What other POTUS commands that attention?

Well the world listens and reacts to things Kanye West says and he's a talentless hack.

And the way Americans love their celebs in a godlike way Kanye could run for POTUS with Kim as Vice and they would be in serious contention for the WH.

And Trump's success in this election has kinda opened the door for that sort of thing.

Why are we acting like this is the first time this happened? Ronald Reagan was a cowboy in movies, and somehow became a revered president. Al Franken was Stuart Smalley, Arnold was in Twins, Jesse Ventura was a professional wrestler. Is this all that surprising?

Sure there's definitely precedent for celebrities-turned-politicians. Add Steve Largent and Sonny Bono to your list. But more often than not, they dabble in local politics or at least champion social issues before running. Trump walked right off the set a reality show into the presidential election.

Jearlpam0925 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Degeneratefk said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJFan, I do not like Trump. I do not hate him. I don't hate anyone. I do very much hate actions of people. I seriously fear for our country if he is at the helm. You don't live here, right? If you do, vote as you want but know this loud and clear, my vote will not be for Trump-- even if a gun was placed to my head. I don't need to back up my claim of worry. It's how I feel and I don't need to defend it. I have a 12 1/2 year old who has decided through news and reading that he is not her candidate, either. I will take advantage of my right to vote and exercise it as my heart directs me to.

You don't need to back up your claim? Decided via news and reading that it is not your candidate?
What about his positions and how he will put them to action have you read any, at all?
Pick one and say why it will fail https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions

No one ever talks about his plans or policies. They are clearly laid out on his site.
Tell me why his plans won't work.

No, I don't need to back up my opinion. I will not read his link no matter how many times you link to it. I don't need to defend. I won't fall for your baiting. Nice try, though.

If you love him so much, perhaps we should send him on to you so that you may elect him and enjoy his policies. I wouldn't fight you for him. I promise. You can have him and enjoy him.

As for me, I will be voting otherwise.

You don't need to back up your opinion?

No, I don't. You see, I'm not trying to change your opinion. Your opinion is your opinion. I feel no need to defend my opinion to you and what's funny is that it seems like it bugs the shit out of you.

Hurry up! Attack, delete, edit to a period! Makes you the innocent one, right? Won't fall for it. Nice attempt, though.

I will not be voting for Trump but then again, you won't either.

Cute post.
Not defending your opinion, kind of like Trump.

Isn't that what you like so much about him?

I find it fascinating the whatever Trump thinks or says out loud the world listens and reacts.
What other POTUS commands that attention?

Well the world listens and reacts to things Kanye West says and he's a talentless hack.

And the way Americans love their celebs in a godlike way Kanye could run for POTUS with Kim as Vice and they would be in serious contention for the WH.

And Trump's success in this election has kinda opened the door for that sort of thing.

Why are we acting like this is the first time this happened? Ronald Reagan was a cowboy in movies, and somehow became a revered president. Al Franken was Stuart Smalley, Arnold was in Twins, Jesse Ventura was a professional wrestler. Is this all that surprising?

Sure there's definitely precedent for celebrities-turned-politicians. Add Steve Largent and Sonny Bono to your list. But more often than not, they dabble in local politics or at least champion social issues before running. Trump walked right off the set a reality show into the presidential election.

Still a reality show - dude doesn't care if he wins or loses, it's all a PR move. Plus, people are dumb so he's gotten pretty far on that alone.

I'm not sure I agree with that. I think he wants to be the president so he can, in his mind, sit on a throne atop the world and be in charge. It's an ego thing. If it was a PR move, I'd consider it a failure. I understand the whole "any press is good press" mantra. But half the globe thinks he's a racist/bigot now. Nobody thought that before. Like...what does he expect to parlay all this into if he doesn't win the election? He's been exposed not only as possibly a bigot, but also as a shady businessman. I'm sure many people already knew he was a shady business man. But now, many more do. I never heard of Trump University or any of that shit until he ran for president.

Jearlpam0925 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Degeneratefk said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJFan, I do not like Trump. I do not hate him. I don't hate anyone. I do very much hate actions of people. I seriously fear for our country if he is at the helm. You don't live here, right? If you do, vote as you want but know this loud and clear, my vote will not be for Trump-- even if a gun was placed to my head. I don't need to back up my claim of worry. It's how I feel and I don't need to defend it. I have a 12 1/2 year old who has decided through news and reading that he is not her candidate, either. I will take advantage of my right to vote and exercise it as my heart directs me to.

You don't need to back up your claim? Decided via news and reading that it is not your candidate?
What about his positions and how he will put them to action have you read any, at all?
Pick one and say why it will fail https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions

No one ever talks about his plans or policies. They are clearly laid out on his site.
Tell me why his plans won't work.

No, I don't need to back up my opinion. I will not read his link no matter how many times you link to it. I don't need to defend. I won't fall for your baiting. Nice try, though.

If you love him so much, perhaps we should send him on to you so that you may elect him and enjoy his policies. I wouldn't fight you for him. I promise. You can have him and enjoy him.

As for me, I will be voting otherwise.

You don't need to back up your opinion?

No, I don't. You see, I'm not trying to change your opinion. Your opinion is your opinion. I feel no need to defend my opinion to you and what's funny is that it seems like it bugs the shit out of you.

Hurry up! Attack, delete, edit to a period! Makes you the innocent one, right? Won't fall for it. Nice attempt, though.

I will not be voting for Trump but then again, you won't either.

Cute post.
Not defending your opinion, kind of like Trump.

Isn't that what you like so much about him?

I find it fascinating the whatever Trump thinks or says out loud the world listens and reacts.
What other POTUS commands that attention?

Well the world listens and reacts to things Kanye West says and he's a talentless hack.

And the way Americans love their celebs in a godlike way Kanye could run for POTUS with Kim as Vice and they would be in serious contention for the WH.

And Trump's success in this election has kinda opened the door for that sort of thing.

Why are we acting like this is the first time this happened? Ronald Reagan was a cowboy in movies, and somehow became a revered president. Al Franken was Stuart Smalley, Arnold was in Twins, Jesse Ventura was a professional wrestler. Is this all that surprising?

Reagan was a successful and popular governor of CA so I'm not sure that is a good analogy. Jesse the Body and Arnold are good analogies. But I think both of them actually cared and didn't appear to be doing it to further the other products that are hawking.

mrussel1 said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Degeneratefk said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJFan, I do not like Trump. I do not hate him. I don't hate anyone. I do very much hate actions of people. I seriously fear for our country if he is at the helm. You don't live here, right? If you do, vote as you want but know this loud and clear, my vote will not be for Trump-- even if a gun was placed to my head. I don't need to back up my claim of worry. It's how I feel and I don't need to defend it. I have a 12 1/2 year old who has decided through news and reading that he is not her candidate, either. I will take advantage of my right to vote and exercise it as my heart directs me to.

You don't need to back up your claim? Decided via news and reading that it is not your candidate?
What about his positions and how he will put them to action have you read any, at all?
Pick one and say why it will fail https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions

No one ever talks about his plans or policies. They are clearly laid out on his site.
Tell me why his plans won't work.

No, I don't need to back up my opinion. I will not read his link no matter how many times you link to it. I don't need to defend. I won't fall for your baiting. Nice try, though.

If you love him so much, perhaps we should send him on to you so that you may elect him and enjoy his policies. I wouldn't fight you for him. I promise. You can have him and enjoy him.

As for me, I will be voting otherwise.

You don't need to back up your opinion?

No, I don't. You see, I'm not trying to change your opinion. Your opinion is your opinion. I feel no need to defend my opinion to you and what's funny is that it seems like it bugs the shit out of you.

Hurry up! Attack, delete, edit to a period! Makes you the innocent one, right? Won't fall for it. Nice attempt, though.

I will not be voting for Trump but then again, you won't either.

Cute post.
Not defending your opinion, kind of like Trump.

Isn't that what you like so much about him?

I find it fascinating the whatever Trump thinks or says out loud the world listens and reacts.
What other POTUS commands that attention?

Well the world listens and reacts to things Kanye West says and he's a talentless hack.

And the way Americans love their celebs in a godlike way Kanye could run for POTUS with Kim as Vice and they would be in serious contention for the WH.

And Trump's success in this election has kinda opened the door for that sort of thing.

Why are we acting like this is the first time this happened? Ronald Reagan was a cowboy in movies, and somehow became a revered president. Al Franken was Stuart Smalley, Arnold was in Twins, Jesse Ventura was a professional wrestler. Is this all that surprising?

Reagan was a successful and popular governor of CA so I'm not sure that is a good analogy. Jesse the Body and Arnold are good analogies. But I think both of them actually cared and didn't appear to be doing it to further the other products that are hawking.

Reagan was actually somewhat moderate, could work across the aisle, and wasn't an ignorant, close minded jerk-off. I'm a Democrat but would take Reagan over Trump literally any day of the week and twice on Sunday. What Trump stands for (banning Muslim immigration, surveying mosques, deporting every undocumented immigrant, not willing to immediately disavow an endorsement from the leader of the KKK, mocking people with physical disabilities) is so Un-American it's honestly not even funny. And the fact that so many people are buying into his bullshit is even scarier.

Jearlpam0925 said:

mrussel1 said:

Reagan was a successful and popular governor of CA so I'm not sure that is a good analogy. Jesse the Body and Arnold are good analogies. But I think both of them actually cared and didn't appear to be doing it to further the other products that are hawking.

The cared part I'll agree with you on. But it's besides the point of talking about celebrities - of any type - making a legitimate run for a political seat.

I'm with you. I think there is a distinction between leveraging your celebrity (Bono, Largent, Arnold, Jesse, Eastwood) and simply trying to further your celebrity to feed your fucked up Id.