Trump

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

^^^
The Chinese would listen to the pros and cons of what Trump proposes as POTUS.

Your second amendment that the country holds so dear is no match for anyone not even a POTUS. Trump at least approached them as "one of their own"
You can't reason with a right wing special interest group they wont listen.
He hasn't in those words criticized the Repub congress but painted the working of the whitehouse with the same brush as defunct.

Negative again. The SCOTUS ruled in District of Columbia v Heller that gun ownership is not unlimited and the Congress has the right to limit ownership.

“Nothing in our opinion should be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms.”

“We also recognize another important limitation on the right to keep and carry arms. Miller (an earlier case) said, as we have explained, that the sorts of weapons protected were those “in common use at the time”. We think that limitation is fairly supported by the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of ‘dangerous and unusual weapons.’ ”

edit: bold and italics added for emphasis

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

^^^
If congress has that right they also have the right not to enact it.

No shit. But if the NRA gave the green light to the Republicans in Congress, the law could get passed. The Senate already cut a deal. Trump can't convince the NRA. That's what it comes down to in this case. He is failing at negotiation.

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

^^^
Is he failing at negotiation?
Why has the NRA shunned him cold and now it's Trumps perceived downfall in the press.
Whereas until he challenged the NRA he was on a pinnacle.

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

I have a feeling the fact that the head of the CIA director's Isis discussion today is going to help trump. Coming just a few days after Obama tried to say the opposite in the speech where he blasted trump makes the administration look kinda shady again, trying to skew the facts to work in their advantage.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/06/16/politics/john-brennan-cia-isis/index.html?client=safari#

Thoughts?

I'm not following how this is the opposite of what Obama said.

Business Insider, lol!!!

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

RoleModelsinBlood31 said:

I have a feeling the fact that the head of the CIA director's Isis discussion today is going to help trump. Coming just a few days after Obama tried to say the opposite in the speech where he blasted trump makes the administration look kinda shady again, trying to skew the facts to work in their advantage.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/06/16/politics/john-brennan-cia-isis/index.html?client=safari#

Thoughts?

Interesting how Hillary and Bernie are silent on this
or this http://www.businessinsider.com/state-department-officials-call-for-airstrikes-on-assad-2016-6

All Trump has to do is wait for this current flaming of liberals issue to tamper a little and then this wave will pick him up again.

I don't know why, but I usually only understand 50% of what you are saying. It's like you speak in some sort of code. Regardless, the dissent channel is serious and the strategy is a difficult choice. Many foreign policy experts believe that striking Assad will have two effects:
1. Straining relationships with the Russians as they have strong economic interests that flow through Syria
2. Creating a power vacuum precisely the way a vacuum was created in Iraq and Lybia.

Unfortunately, sometimes a strong man is the only thing that is holding together these manufactured nation-states that were created in the best interest of the western empires after WWI. A perfect example is how Yugoslavia fell apart after the death of Tito.

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJFan, I do not like Trump. I do not hate him. I don't hate anyone. I do very much hate actions of people. I seriously fear for our country if he is at the helm. You don't live here, right? If you do, vote as you want but know this loud and clear, my vote will not be for Trump-- even if a gun was placed to my head. I don't need to back up my claim of worry. It's how I feel and I don't need to defend it. I have a 12 1/2 year old who has decided through news and reading that he is not her candidate, either. I will take advantage of my right to vote and exercise it as my heart directs me to.

You don't need to back up your claim? Decided via news and reading that it is not your candidate?
What about his positions and how he will put them to action have you read any, at all?
Pick one and say why it will fail https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions

No one ever talks about his plans or policies. They are clearly laid out on his site.
Tell me why his plans won't work.

No, I don't need to back up my opinion. I will not read his link no matter how many times you link to it. I don't need to defend. I won't fall for your baiting. Nice try, though.

If you love him so much, perhaps we should send him on to you so that you may elect him and enjoy his policies. I wouldn't fight you for him. I promise. You can have him and enjoy him.

As for me, I will be voting otherwise.

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

deadendp said:

PJFan, I do not like Trump. I do not hate him. I don't hate anyone. I do very much hate actions of people. I seriously fear for our country if he is at the helm. You don't live here, right? If you do, vote as you want but know this loud and clear, my vote will not be for Trump-- even if a gun was placed to my head. I don't need to back up my claim of worry. It's how I feel and I don't need to defend it. I have a 12 1/2 year old who has decided through news and reading that he is not her candidate, either. I will take advantage of my right to vote and exercise it as my heart directs me to.

You don't need to back up your claim? Decided via news and reading that it is not your candidate?
What about his positions and how he will put them to action have you read any, at all?
Pick one and say why it will fail https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions

No one ever talks about his plans or policies. They are clearly laid out on his site.
Tell me why his plans won't work.

No, I don't need to back up my opinion. I will not read his link no matter how many times you link to it. I don't need to defend. I won't fall for your baiting. Nice try, though.

If you love him so much, perhaps we should send him on to you so that you may elect him and enjoy his policies. I wouldn't fight you for him. I promise. You can have him and enjoy him.

As for me, I will be voting otherwise.

You don't need to back up your opinion?

No, I don't. You see, I'm not trying to change your opinion. Your opinion is your opinion. I feel no need to defend my opinion to you and what's funny is that it seems like it bugs the shit out of you.

Hurry up! Attack, delete, edit to a period! Makes you the innocent one, right? Won't fall for it. Nice attempt, though.

I will not be voting for Trump but then again, you won't either.

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

CH156378 said:

Business Insider, lol!!!

A common practice on the train is to laugh at sources if they don't suit the fancy.
Words are words no matter the source.
This prevents living in a unicorn world.

Kinda like deriding all polls when losing, but pointing to them endlessly when leading.