Terrorist Shooting In Orlando, FL

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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    PJ_Soul said:

    Wasn't it something about his weirdo father being fired from the postal service or something along those lines (or was it McVeigh himself?), and then it devolved from there??

    I think he was X-Military ?

    Godfather.

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Godfather. said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Wasn't it something about his weirdo father being fired from the postal service or something along those lines (or was it McVeigh himself?), and then it devolved from there??

    I think he was X-Military ?

    Godfather.

    He was just one of those anti-gov't nuts. Just like the Bundy's and the other douches that are rotting in jail because they thought the 'people' would flock to them when they took the refuge in Oregon. Obviously McVeigh was much worse, but it's from the same mindset.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    mrussel1 said:

    Godfather. said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Wasn't it something about his weirdo father being fired from the postal service or something along those lines (or was it McVeigh himself?), and then it devolved from there??

    I think he was X-Military ?

    Godfather.

    He was just one of those anti-gov't nuts. Just like the Bundy's and the other douches that are rotting in jail because they thought the 'people' would flock to them when they took the refuge in Oregon. Obviously McVeigh was much worse, but it's from the same mindset.
    Well I'll be. He was a pro-gun rights nut too.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    They are going to pin this on mateens wife. An insider on the Orlando police force told CNN that "...the signs were there.....and had his wife simply made a phone call, this could have been avoided." Isn't that exactly what the gun shop employees did 2 weeks prior?
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    Degeneratefk said:

    They are going to pin this on mateens wife. An insider on the Orlando police force told CNN that "...the signs were there.....and had his wife simply made a phone call, this could have been avoided." Isn't that exactly what the gun shop employees did 2 weeks prior?

    Well yeah but the gun shop employees only did it because they're racist bastards who were stereotyping the poor guy! Taking their warning seriously might have hurt Mateen's feelings!
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    The wife sounds like a stupid asshole (at best) who deserves to go to prison for life.
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  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    PJ_Soul said:

    The wife sounds like a stupid asshole (at best) who deserves to go to prison for life.

    Not saying she doesn't deserve jail, just pointing out the holes in the system.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    Degeneratefk said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    The wife sounds like a stupid asshole (at best) who deserves to go to prison for life.

    Not saying she doesn't deserve jail, just pointing out the holes in the system.
    I actually didn't even read your post! I was just sayin'. ;)
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Ledbetterman10 said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    They are going to pin this on mateens wife. An insider on the Orlando police force told CNN that "...the signs were there.....and had his wife simply made a phone call, this could have been avoided." Isn't that exactly what the gun shop employees did 2 weeks prior?

    Well yeah but the gun shop employees only did it because they're racist bastards who were stereotyping the poor guy! Taking their warning seriously might have hurt Mateen's feelings!
    haha and those racist profiling bastards were right !
    knowing who his father is and the politics he supports the cops should have had an eye on him when the gun shop called in.

    Godfather.

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    I figure every single call from a gun shop owner should be taken seriously. Every single one should be investigated thoroughly.
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  • Godfather.
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    PJ_Soul said:

    I figure every single call from a gun shop owner should be taken seriously. Every single one should be investigated thoroughly.

    agree !

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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    PJ_Soul said:

    I figure every single call from a gun shop owner should be taken seriously. Every single one should be investigated thoroughly.

    No joke! Speaking of "common sense". Wasn't there a similar circumstance in either the CO or AZ shooting where authorities disregarded warnings by a psychologist or something? Seems like I have heard this story before...
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
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    Go Beavers said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    jnimhaoileoin said:

    Go Beavers said:

    jnimhaoileoin said:

    I was asking my friend, who's a Bosnian Muslim, about the hijab the other day and I was saying to her how we find such aspects hard to understand. I think it's important to remember that we cannot judge all Muslims by the actions of a relatively tiny percentage, no matter how terrible the deeds. We talked a bit about the general perception of Islam and these were just some of her thoughts.

    'Most muslims are decent, warm, peaceful people.. A few bad eggs...and the whole religion is typecast. We don't consider the extremists to be muslim for their actions are not justifiable. Sadly the media is to blame a lot i think.'

    It's the same thing with Christian extremists, but the difference with them is that the general public accepts the notion that they aren't representing Christianity because most of us in the U.S. have a lot of familiarity with the religion. When a Christian extremist kills someone, we attribute their motivations to something else and find a different label for them.
    Exactly, we all grew up with a general understanding of Christianity. We don't really have a proper understanding of Islam, I certainly don't anyway. As usual, we fear and distrust what we don't understand. Instead of just condemning the notion of wearing a hijab and deciding it could only be a sign of repression, I asked about it and tried to better understand it. As a result, I don't regard it with the same suspicion and unease that I did before
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  • pjhawks
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    PJ_Soul said:

    I figure every single call from a gun shop owner should be taken seriously. Every single one should be investigated thoroughly.

    nah just be easier to stop letting people by assault weapons.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    pjhawks said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I figure every single call from a gun shop owner should be taken seriously. Every single one should be investigated thoroughly.

    nah just be easier to stop letting people by assault weapons.
    That is really besides the point. Either way, all calls from gun shop owners should be taken seriously and acted upon.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    PJPOWER said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I figure every single call from a gun shop owner should be taken seriously. Every single one should be investigated thoroughly.

    No joke! Speaking of "common sense". Wasn't there a similar circumstance in either the CO or AZ shooting where authorities disregarded warnings by a psychologist or something? Seems like I have heard this story before...
    Yes indeed. I guess we do have to remember that hindsight is 20/20. There are plenty of mass shootings where people came forward and said they knew this and that. In a lot of those cases it's not really reasonable to say that someone should have done something or known. But in other cases, like in cases when a gun shop owner or someone else who fears potential mass violence actually alerts authorities with concerns and the authorities do nothing or the person is still able to buy guns, someone is definitely dropping a very large ball.
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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Hmm http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/mccain-blames-obama-for-orlando-massacre/ar-AAh8NLU?ocid=spartanntp

    I and others have long warned that the failure of the President’s policy to deny (the Islamic State) safe haven would allow the terrorist organization to inspire, plan, direct or conduct attacks on the United States and Europe as they have done in Paris, Brussels, San Bernardino and now Orlando.”
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    edited June 2016
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Hmm http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/mccain-blames-obama-for-orlando-massacre/ar-AAh8NLU?ocid=spartanntp

    I and others have long warned that the failure of the President’s policy to deny (the Islamic State) safe haven would allow the terrorist organization to inspire, plan, direct or conduct attacks on the United States and Europe as they have done in Paris, Brussels, San Bernardino and now Orlando.”

    I know. Doesn't that make this a weird tweet?

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,665
    Lol. That tweet is weird for a couple of reasons!
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    I have an honest question: last night I watched several news channels and all them stated that ISIS was calling for more attacks on America from their followers here and all news stations seem to agree that more attacks could or will happen so my question is this...how do you people think those isis supporters got here and as for the "home grown" terrorist who do you guys think they are being influenced by ?

    we have gone round and round about muslim involvement in US terror attacks and many of you think it's just part of the percentages of rouge muslims and basically no big deal.
    I still stand by the thought of stopping all muslim entries in the US because the percentages are just too high, we can't solve every problem this way but it's a good start to minimalizing terrorist attacks on American soil and any immigrant and their children that are suspected of any involvement with terrorist or terrorist activity should be immediately investigated and detained or deported to the country they or their family is from.
    this ISIS thing has got way out of control (thanks Obama) and something needs to be done to protect the American people.

    Godfather.

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