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Sounds to me like judge's actions justified it in that case. She wasn't just barred from those cases because she's Iranian. There was evidence of a pattern of impropriety, supposedly.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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Nothing wrong with it at all. It is just that Limbaugh has been away all week. It's possible Gambs tuned in to listen to the guest host but I am highly suspect.mrussel1 said:
Nothing wrong with if they were. I read all the conservative rags. AmConMag, WS, NRO, Brietbart, etc. It's how you bulletproof your thinking and arguments.BS44325 said:
Oh yeah? Were you listening to Limbaugh yesterday?rgambs said:
So, this will be relevant to the Trump scenario when Judge Curiel is presiding over a Trump-related Mexican immigration case? No, it still wont, unless Judge Curiel is involved in a Mexican immigrant advocacy organization...good find there at the daily caller lolBS44325 said:
Holy Crap...this racism is a lot more widespread then we even knew!The Juggler said:
You forgot racism, bigotry, and misogyny.Cliffy6745 said:Bernie sanders "fans" who vote for trump are voting for tax cuts for the rich, less Wall Street regulation, a roll back on social issues, less diplomacy, more war. Am sure I am missing much more? How is that even possible for someone who supports sanders? Gotta be a bunch of fucking morons.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/10/the-obama-admin-blocked-an-iranian-american-judge-from-hearing-iranian-immigration-cases/
That's weak. It was weak yesterday on the Limbaugh show, and it's even weaker now!0 -
Yeah, Buxton or Baxter or something, young guy by the sound of it. I liked him better than the English fellow (can't remember his name) who fills in most of the time. He just makes light of everything with sarcasm that isn't funny and jokes that fall flat.BS44325 said:
Nothing wrong with it at all. It is just that Limbaugh has been away all week. It's possible Gambs tuned in to listen to the guest host but I am highly suspect.mrussel1 said:
Nothing wrong with if they were. I read all the conservative rags. AmConMag, WS, NRO, Brietbart, etc. It's how you bulletproof your thinking and arguments.BS44325 said:
Oh yeah? Were you listening to Limbaugh yesterday?rgambs said:
So, this will be relevant to the Trump scenario when Judge Curiel is presiding over a Trump-related Mexican immigration case? No, it still wont, unless Judge Curiel is involved in a Mexican immigrant advocacy organization...good find there at the daily caller lolBS44325 said:
Holy Crap...this racism is a lot more widespread then we even knew!The Juggler said:
You forgot racism, bigotry, and misogyny.Cliffy6745 said:Bernie sanders "fans" who vote for trump are voting for tax cuts for the rich, less Wall Street regulation, a roll back on social issues, less diplomacy, more war. Am sure I am missing much more? How is that even possible for someone who supports sanders? Gotta be a bunch of fucking morons.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/10/the-obama-admin-blocked-an-iranian-american-judge-from-hearing-iranian-immigration-cases/
That's weak. It was weak yesterday on the Limbaugh show, and it's even weaker now!
There is a nugget of a point in the story, but the details are too far off to be any real comparison to the Trump scenario, and even if he was justified in his thought that Curiel should refuse, he still made the point in a racist manner more the, once.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
The amount of Bernie fans that will vote for Trump won't be more than .01%. And part of what Hillary has going for her is that you know what you're getting and it will be more or less status quo. Trump is way to risky to pull those people who fall undecided/in the middle. In November, those middle road, undecideds in the swing states will go with what's more comfortable.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:
Don't be stubborn just to be so. I voted Obama the last two elections and I want Bernie but I'm going trump now and so are a lot of Bernie fans I know. no way I go Hillary- that's establishment. I see it as change vs no change- if people are happy now and with the way things have been they vote hill if they're not they vote trump- and I think a lot more people want change than most think. Same way Obama pulled masses with empty promises trump is going to start pulling masses when people see Hillary is what they've already hadCliffy6745 said:
How does he flip half a dozen Obama states?RoleModelsinBlood31 said:Trump is going to crush Hillary, similar to the Obama landslide wins before this. People are massively stereotyping his support and don't realize how big his fan base is. Dude is a beast and straight mows down his opponents. Hillary has it coming and it's going to shock a lot of people.
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once his supporters realize he is no longer "a winner" and his dumb shit isn't funny anymore they will be jumping ship left and right0
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Well the details are essentially the same...rgambs said:
Yeah, Buxton or Baxter or something, young guy by the sound of it. I liked him better than the English fellow (can't remember his name) who fills in most of the time. He just makes light of everything with sarcasm that isn't funny and jokes that fall flat.BS44325 said:
Nothing wrong with it at all. It is just that Limbaugh has been away all week. It's possible Gambs tuned in to listen to the guest host but I am highly suspect.mrussel1 said:
Nothing wrong with if they were. I read all the conservative rags. AmConMag, WS, NRO, Brietbart, etc. It's how you bulletproof your thinking and arguments.BS44325 said:
Oh yeah? Were you listening to Limbaugh yesterday?rgambs said:
So, this will be relevant to the Trump scenario when Judge Curiel is presiding over a Trump-related Mexican immigration case? No, it still wont, unless Judge Curiel is involved in a Mexican immigrant advocacy organization...good find there at the daily caller lolBS44325 said:
Holy Crap...this racism is a lot more widespread then we even knew!The Juggler said:
You forgot racism, bigotry, and misogyny.Cliffy6745 said:Bernie sanders "fans" who vote for trump are voting for tax cuts for the rich, less Wall Street regulation, a roll back on social issues, less diplomacy, more war. Am sure I am missing much more? How is that even possible for someone who supports sanders? Gotta be a bunch of fucking morons.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/10/the-obama-admin-blocked-an-iranian-american-judge-from-hearing-iranian-immigration-cases/
That's weak. It was weak yesterday on the Limbaugh show, and it's even weaker now!
There is a nugget of a point in the story, but the details are too far off to be any real comparison to the Trump scenario, and even if he was justified in his thought that Curiel should refuse, he still made the point in a racist manner more the, once.
The Obama administration is on record that this Iranian judge cannot possibly rule impartially due to her heritage. This fact cannot be explained away so don't even try.
The Obama administration is also on record as wanting diversity on the bench because it is their theory that a diverse heritage and experience will allow for more empathy and better judgements. This theory flies in the face of the idea that law is the law and should be interpreted as such regardless of a person's heritage. Empathy should have nothing to do with it and yet the argument continues.
The Obama administration and the progressive movement is also on record that a white jury couldn't possibly deliver a fair judgement in the trial of a minority and/or a white defendant charged with a crime against a minority. The white person you see couldn't possibly remove their heritage from the decision making process.
So essentially the Obama administration and the progressive movement sees race at play throughout the legal system and it is not even controversial.
Now with respect to Trump...
Since day one these boards have said Latinos hate trump because of the wall and his stance on immigration. It is the progressive argument that a good and proper Latino would absolutely reject Trump and everything he stands for. When I have posted videos of Latinos who support Trump you all call that an anomaly and act as if it is a meaningless blip. So when Trump listens to you all and says "Hmmm...maybe this judge is not being fair to me because of my stance on the wall?" you all act as if this is the most insane thing you have ever heard and yet as per above you would have no problem agreeing with his sentiments if it was a minority defendant making the same statement about a white judge and/or jury. So which is it? It is time to start getting your stories straight on with respect to a judge's heritage and his/her ability to remain impartial.Post edited by BS44325 on0 -
Empathy doesn't mean there's going to be bias. I'd say empathy is part of a judge's job.0
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In sentencing maybe but not in decision making.Go Beavers said:Empathy doesn't mean there's going to be bias. I'd say empathy is part of a judge's job.
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If Obama made racist comments about Iranians, and was being sued, and then tried to have an Iranian judge removed from the case in which he was being sued because he was worried that she wou)don't be impartial due to his racist comments, then I would definitely have a problem with this.
I know little about the case, but I am still under the impression that the Iranian judge actually did some things to show that she wasn't being impartial. If that is the case, there is no story. Either way, it's not comparable to what Trump is attempting.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
Nope. Tis the same. Obama administration is claiming an Iranian judge can't make impartial decisions due to her heritage.PJ_Soul said:If Obama made racist comments about Iranians, and was being sued, and then tried to have an Iranian judge removed from the case in which he was being sued because he was worried that she wou)don't be impartial due to his racist comments, then I would definitely have a problem with this.
I know little about the case, but I am still under the impression that the Iranian judge actually did some things to show that she wasn't being impartial. If that is the case, there is no story. Either way, it's not comparable to what Trump is attempting.
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BS44325 said:
Nope. Tis the same. Obama administration is claiming an Iranian judge can't make impartial decisions due to her heritage.PJ_Soul said:If Obama made racist comments about Iranians, and was being sued, and then tried to have an Iranian judge removed from the case in which he was being sued because he was worried that she wou)don't be impartial due to his racist comments, then I would definitely have a problem with this.
I know little about the case, but I am still under the impression that the Iranian judge actually did some things to show that she wasn't being impartial. If that is the case, there is no story. Either way, it's not comparable to what Trump is attempting.
And not because Obama is racist towards Iranians and is trying to get her off of a case against him. 'Tis not the same at all.
Please provide some evidence that the justice department doesn't have any reason,based on her behaviour, to dismiss this judge from immigration cases. You haven't shown that the judge never gave them any reason. I am not denying it. I just want to know why you are saying that she never gave them any reason.Post edited by PJ_Soul onWith all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
He's running to be leader of the free world and represent all Americans, not to be first power forward taken in the draft. None of your adjectives should be used in that context.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:Trump is going to crush Hillary, similar to the Obama landslide wins before this. People are massively stereotyping his support and don't realize how big his fan base is. Dude is a beast and straight mows down his opponents. Hillary has it coming and it's going to shock a lot of people.
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On the contrary...where is your evidence that this judge had done anything wrong? It could be true but I have not seen that reported anywhere. This should be a claim that you have to prove before tarnishing the reputation of this judge.PJ_Soul said:BS44325 said:
Nope. Tis the same. Obama administration is claiming an Iranian judge can't make impartial decisions due to her heritage.PJ_Soul said:If Obama made racist comments about Iranians, and was being sued, and then tried to have an Iranian judge removed from the case in which he was being sued because he was worried that she wou)don't be impartial due to his racist comments, then I would definitely have a problem with this.
I know little about the case, but I am still under the impression that the Iranian judge actually did some things to show that she wasn't being impartial. If that is the case, there is no story. Either way, it's not comparable to what Trump is attempting.
And not because Obama is racist towards Iranians and is trying to get her off of a case against him. 'Tis not the same at all.
Please provide some evidence that the justice department doesn't have any reason,based on her behaviour, to dismiss this judge from immigration cases. You haven't shown that the judge never gave them any reason. I am not denying it. I just want to know why you are saying that she never gave them any reason.0 -
You're the one who posted the issue. And I am not claiming or denying anything, as I already said. I am asking you for info showing that the administration did this solely because of her ethnicity because YOU claimed that but showed nothing confirming or even suggesting that. In what YOU posted it actually states that they did it because she had shown some behaviour that caused them to make that decision - that there were "improprieties" - but you're saying that's not the case. Why??BS44325 said:
On the contrary...where is your evidence that this judge had done anything wrong? It could be true but I have not seen that reported anywhere. This should be a claim that you have to prove before tarnishing the reputation of this judge.PJ_Soul said:BS44325 said:
Nope. Tis the same. Obama administration is claiming an Iranian judge can't make impartial decisions due to her heritage.PJ_Soul said:If Obama made racist comments about Iranians, and was being sued, and then tried to have an Iranian judge removed from the case in which he was being sued because he was worried that she wou)don't be impartial due to his racist comments, then I would definitely have a problem with this.
I know little about the case, but I am still under the impression that the Iranian judge actually did some things to show that she wasn't being impartial. If that is the case, there is no story. Either way, it's not comparable to what Trump is attempting.
And not because Obama is racist towards Iranians and is trying to get her off of a case against him. 'Tis not the same at all.
Please provide some evidence that the justice department doesn't have any reason,based on her behaviour, to dismiss this judge from immigration cases. You haven't shown that the judge never gave them any reason. I am not denying it. I just want to know why you are saying that she never gave them any reason.With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0 -
If Curiel is biased, why hasn't his counsel filed for recusal? There's a very simple answer: Lack of merit and attorney sanctions. Therefore Trump is trying to litigate the matter a personal matter as part of the campaign. What a fool.BS44325 said:
On the contrary...where is your evidence that this judge had done anything wrong? It could be true but I have not seen that reported anywhere. This should be a claim that you have to prove before tarnishing the reputation of this judge.PJ_Soul said:BS44325 said:
Nope. Tis the same. Obama administration is claiming an Iranian judge can't make impartial decisions due to her heritage.PJ_Soul said:If Obama made racist comments about Iranians, and was being sued, and then tried to have an Iranian judge removed from the case in which he was being sued because he was worried that she wou)don't be impartial due to his racist comments, then I would definitely have a problem with this.
I know little about the case, but I am still under the impression that the Iranian judge actually did some things to show that she wasn't being impartial. If that is the case, there is no story. Either way, it's not comparable to what Trump is attempting.
And not because Obama is racist towards Iranians and is trying to get her off of a case against him. 'Tis not the same at all.
Please provide some evidence that the justice department doesn't have any reason,based on her behaviour, to dismiss this judge from immigration cases. You haven't shown that the judge never gave them any reason. I am not denying it. I just want to know why you are saying that she never gave them any reason.0 -
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata0
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I completely agree with you on this. Where I part ways is on the charges of racism.mrussel1 said:
If Curiel is biased, why hasn't his counsel filed for recusal? There's a very simple answer: Lack of merit and attorney sanctions. Therefore Trump is trying to litigate the matter a personal matter as part of the campaign. What a fool.BS44325 said:
On the contrary...where is your evidence that this judge had done anything wrong? It could be true but I have not seen that reported anywhere. This should be a claim that you have to prove before tarnishing the reputation of this judge.PJ_Soul said:BS44325 said:
Nope. Tis the same. Obama administration is claiming an Iranian judge can't make impartial decisions due to her heritage.PJ_Soul said:If Obama made racist comments about Iranians, and was being sued, and then tried to have an Iranian judge removed from the case in which he was being sued because he was worried that she wou)don't be impartial due to his racist comments, then I would definitely have a problem with this.
I know little about the case, but I am still under the impression that the Iranian judge actually did some things to show that she wasn't being impartial. If that is the case, there is no story. Either way, it's not comparable to what Trump is attempting.
And not because Obama is racist towards Iranians and is trying to get her off of a case against him. 'Tis not the same at all.
Please provide some evidence that the justice department doesn't have any reason,based on her behaviour, to dismiss this judge from immigration cases. You haven't shown that the judge never gave them any reason. I am not denying it. I just want to know why you are saying that she never gave them any reason.0 -
I don't know if he is truly racist or not. I think he looks for attack angles regardless of whether they are perceived as racist. In other words, he's oblivious.BS44325 said:
I completely agree with you on this. Where I part ways is on the charges of racism.mrussel1 said:
If Curiel is biased, why hasn't his counsel filed for recusal? There's a very simple answer: Lack of merit and attorney sanctions. Therefore Trump is trying to litigate the matter a personal matter as part of the campaign. What a fool.BS44325 said:
On the contrary...where is your evidence that this judge had done anything wrong? It could be true but I have not seen that reported anywhere. This should be a claim that you have to prove before tarnishing the reputation of this judge.PJ_Soul said:BS44325 said:
Nope. Tis the same. Obama administration is claiming an Iranian judge can't make impartial decisions due to her heritage.PJ_Soul said:If Obama made racist comments about Iranians, and was being sued, and then tried to have an Iranian judge removed from the case in which he was being sued because he was worried that she wou)don't be impartial due to his racist comments, then I would definitely have a problem with this.
I know little about the case, but I am still under the impression that the Iranian judge actually did some things to show that she wasn't being impartial. If that is the case, there is no story. Either way, it's not comparable to what Trump is attempting.
And not because Obama is racist towards Iranians and is trying to get her off of a case against him. 'Tis not the same at all.
Please provide some evidence that the justice department doesn't have any reason,based on her behaviour, to dismiss this judge from immigration cases. You haven't shown that the judge never gave them any reason. I am not denying it. I just want to know why you are saying that she never gave them any reason.0 -
You don't think the detail that the Iranian Judge was asked to recuse herself from Iranian immigration cases is different than a Mexican Judge being asked to recuse himself from a fraud case that has nothing to do with Mexicans???BS44325 said:
Well the details are essentially the same...rgambs said:
Yeah, Buxton or Baxter or something, young guy by the sound of it. I liked him better than the English fellow (can't remember his name) who fills in most of the time. He just makes light of everything with sarcasm that isn't funny and jokes that fall flat.BS44325 said:
Nothing wrong with it at all. It is just that Limbaugh has been away all week. It's possible Gambs tuned in to listen to the guest host but I am highly suspect.mrussel1 said:
Nothing wrong with if they were. I read all the conservative rags. AmConMag, WS, NRO, Brietbart, etc. It's how you bulletproof your thinking and arguments.BS44325 said:
Oh yeah? Were you listening to Limbaugh yesterday?rgambs said:
So, this will be relevant to the Trump scenario when Judge Curiel is presiding over a Trump-related Mexican immigration case? No, it still wont, unless Judge Curiel is involved in a Mexican immigrant advocacy organization...good find there at the daily caller lolBS44325 said:
Holy Crap...this racism is a lot more widespread then we even knew!The Juggler said:
You forgot racism, bigotry, and misogyny.Cliffy6745 said:Bernie sanders "fans" who vote for trump are voting for tax cuts for the rich, less Wall Street regulation, a roll back on social issues, less diplomacy, more war. Am sure I am missing much more? How is that even possible for someone who supports sanders? Gotta be a bunch of fucking morons.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/10/the-obama-admin-blocked-an-iranian-american-judge-from-hearing-iranian-immigration-cases/
That's weak. It was weak yesterday on the Limbaugh show, and it's even weaker now!
There is a nugget of a point in the story, but the details are too far off to be any real comparison to the Trump scenario, and even if he was justified in his thought that Curiel should refuse, he still made the point in a racist manner more the, once.
The Obama administration is on record that this Iranian judge cannot possibly rule impartially due to her heritage. This fact cannot be explained away so don't even try.
The Obama administration is also on record as wanting diversity on the bench because it is their theory that a diverse heritage and experience will allow for more empathy and better judgements. This theory flies in the face of the idea that law is the law and should be interpreted as such regardless of a person's heritage. Empathy should have nothing to do with it and yet the argument continues.
The Obama administration and the progressive movement is also on record that a white jury couldn't possibly deliver a fair judgement in the trial of a minority and/or a white defendant charged with a crime against a minority. The white person you see couldn't possibly remove their heritage from the decision making process.
So essentially the Obama administration and the progressive movement sees race at play throughout the legal system and it is not even controversial.
Now with respect to Trump...
Since day one these boards have said Latinos hate trump because of the wall and his stance on immigration. It is the progressive argument that a good and proper Latino would absolutely reject Trump and everything he stands for. When I have posted videos of Latinos who support Trump you all call that an anomaly and act as if it is a meaningless blip. So when Trump listens to you all and says "Hmmm...maybe this judge is not being fair to me because of my stance on the wall?" you all act as if this is the most insane thing you have ever heard and yet as per above you would have no problem agreeing with his sentiments if it was a minority defendant making the same statement about a white judge and/or jury. So which is it? It is time to start getting your stories straight on with respect to a judge's heritage and his/her ability to remain impartial.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
So how does Paul Ryan call Trump a racist and then still vote for the guy? What am I missing?0
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