Stanford rapist

Thirty Bills Unpaid · June 2016

I've got a horse.

Cheers to you!

InHiding80 · June 2016

hedonist said:

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PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
^^^
Hedo, say it.
Death Penalty.
Do you have a horse in this type of situation? I hope not and hope you never do.

Unfortunately, I do.

So yeah, I'm pretty cool with harsh punishments for those who commit such fucked up acts, along with those who brush them off.

Thirty? Cheers to ya.

Having them suffer punishment is more harsh to them then life taken away tbh. Having them suffer life long pain is bad enough in prison.

Especially if they end up suffering like that Subway pedo has in jail lately. Don't drop the soap, Fogle!

g under p · June 2016

hedonist said:
Thirty, you know we think similarly in this vein.

I've been steaming and stewing over this. How in the hell does the term "sexual promiscuity" even enter into the discussion of rape? How does a father come even close to defending his kid against this?

Fuck the father, fuck the son.

Punish his ass. Whip his ass, I don't care. Make his sorry, pathetic self know that you pull this shit, you will see justice on behalf of your victi....

...oh wait. Guess not.

Hedo, when I read this my first thought WTF.....there has to be to the story. I guarantee you this IF that young lady was that judge's daughter the sentence for that so called fast swimmer would be much different than what he handed out.

No worries everyone....when someone gets away lightly like this, shows little remorse things will work out in the end and come back to haunt him for the rest of his life........remember OJ.

Peace

F Me In The Brain · June 2016

Or....he won't learn his lesson and he'll do it to someone else. Or....some raper sees that six months is his possible penalty if he is good at even some marginal-at-best sport and figures fuck it, the next woman I think looks hot at a party I'm going to try and get her to pass out so that I can get on her behind a dumpster.

Yuck.

Who Princess · June 2016

Maybe he should have gotten a scholarship to Baylor.

F Me In The Brain · June 2016

Who Princess said:
Maybe he should have gotten a scholarship to Baylor.

pjhawks · June 2016

disgusting all around. the kid is a piece of shit. do guys like this have mothers or sisters? how do they act like that and ever look women in the face? and not that it is important but what kind of pleasure do you get from an unconscious women? the father is a piece of work too. must not have any daughters. if i knew the father i'd be utterly embarrassed by that letter. and how does a judge like that sleep at night? someone had to call in some favors to that judge. awful.

Thirty Bills Unpaid · June 2016

pjhawks said:
disgusting all around. the kid is a piece of shit. do guys like this have mothers or sisters? how do they act like that and ever look women in the face? and not that it is important but what kind of pleasure do you get from an unconscious women? the father is a piece of work too. must not have any daughters. if i knew the father i'd be utterly embarrassed by that letter. and how does a judge like that sleep at night? someone had to call in some favors to that judge. awful.

Compromising pictures of the judge dressed in women's clothes while playing mother with some young boys set to hit the internet if the sentence exceeded 6 months.

Or the judge thinks very little of rape.

F Me In The Brain · June 2016

Mrs FMe told me this AM that the judge is up for reelection and nobody is running against him. This needs to change!

Who Princess · June 2016

The whole thing absolutely disgusts me. This is the kind of sentence I'd expect 30 years ago. That the judiciary can be so ignorant and narrow-minded is flabbergasting. But the lack of remorse and sense of entitlement expressed by the young man AND his father just speaks volumes. As someone else said, he's only unhappy he got caught. He and his father have nothing to complain about. His sentence is astonishingly light. But he lost his scholarship and will have to register as a sex offender! Boo hoo. Choices have consequences, although he hasn't figured that out yet.

I read the victim's entire statement. She shows more insight and concern for him than he deserves. I'm not sure I could be as positive as she is.

When he gets out of jail, I predict he will change his name and Daddy will find him a nice job.

RiotZact · June 2016

Just read her whole statement. What a brave person she must be, one of the most powerful things I've ever read.

pjhawks · June 2016

RiotZact said:
Just read her whole statement. What a brave person she must be, one of the most powerful things I've ever read.

just read it myself. agree powerful stuff, just re-iterates what a fucking joke of a sentence he got they should make every college freshman read that letter.

Gern Blansten · June 2016

It's a really tough issue.

Reminds me of a 23 year old from our neighborhood that killed two people driving drunk one night. I believe she ended up serving 30 days in jail and has a few years of home detention. She came from a wealthy family and was able to hire an expensive attorney.

I still don't know how you kill two people and don't serve longer than that.

Enkidu · June 2016

A friend of a friend just wrote this. https://medium.com/@StefWilliams25/rape-ribeyes-and-the-utter-lack-of-personal-responsibility-5be5f3e61864#.b1n2mnib5

HughFreakingDillon · June 2016

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
I'm wondering where the liberal think tank is on this issue?

I constantly hear- especially in the DP thread- that the court system should not concern itself with justice for the victims (ultimately enacting what some consider a measure of revenge in retaliation for a crime). It has been suggested by many that the court system's real purpose is to safeguard society from future harm and seeking justice for the victims amounts to nothing more than punishing people. And... that we should be above 'punishing people'.

So... if this guy is determined to not be a risk to reoffend... any sentence we issue amounts to revenge/punishment and is a poor course of action for some that think this way. No?

If it's about safeguarding society from future harm... then are we sure six months is going to do the trick? It's hard to establish exactly what the recidivism rate is for sex offenders given the variances among the offences (violent, pedophelia, etc.); however, 25% is a number that has been generally accepted. One in four rape again.

Are we comfortable with such a predictor of future behaviour? Knowing one in four rape again, do we roll the dice for the benefit of the three in four that do not rape again? Exactly what do we owe a convicted rapist? What recidivism rate would be unacceptable for attempting to reintroduce rapists to society to see if they can function in society without raping anyone's daughter/wife/mother?

http://www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/rsrcs/pblctns/sx-ffndr-rcdvsm/index-en.aspx

the liberal think tank. lol.

I think it's disgusting that he gets only 6 months. If I was the perp here, my Dad would be the one asking the judge for MORE time. Not less.

I can say in all honesty, 30, that I cannot answer your questions. I don't know what the proper amount of time for them to spend behind bars for their crimes.

and while I have been one of the proponents of the revenge-less justice system, I can't say that if even this guy was a certainty not to re-offend that I'd agree with him spending no time in jail. that would obviously make no sense. just not sure what the answers are.

polaris_x · June 2016

Enkidu said:
A friend of a friend just wrote this. https://medium.com/@StefWilliams25/rape-ribeyes-and-the-utter-lack-of-personal-responsibility-5be5f3e61864#.b1n2mnib5

she clearly needs an editor ... like is spell check not available?

in any case - this story is all too familiar ... i do think what's in pandora's box should be discussed but will never be because it's now considered victim-blaming ... but the reality is that there are a multitude of consequences associated with getting that drunk that would have left her crucified by society but because of what happened - it's not being discussed at all ...

before people get bent out of shape ... i don't condone rape or sexual assault of any kind and this asshole clearly did not get a harsh enough sentence ... it's simply that the victim has to hold herself to account ... saying she drank too much not factoring she didn't have the tolerance of when she was in college is her rationalizing her own role in this ... again - i'm not making excuses for the assailant here nor saying she deserved it ... just asking where she is in acknowledging the fact she got so damn drunk that she couldn't remember a single thing ...

hedonist · June 2016

Good read, E. Thank you.

Gern Blansten · June 2016

polaris_x said:

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Enkidu said:
A friend of a friend just wrote this. https://medium.com/@StefWilliams25/rape-ribeyes-and-the-utter-lack-of-personal-responsibility-5be5f3e61864#.b1n2mnib5
she clearly needs an editor ... like is spell check not available?

in any case - this story is all too familiar ... i do think what's in pandora's box should be discussed but will never be because it's now considered victim-blaming ... but the reality is that there are a multitude of consequences associated with getting that drunk that would have left her crucified by society but because of what happened - it's not being discussed at all ...

before people get bent out of shape ... i don't condone rape or sexual assault of any kind and this asshole clearly did not get a harsh enough sentence ... it's simply that the victim has to hold herself to account ... saying she drank too much not factoring she didn't have the tolerance of when she was in college is her rationalizing her own role in this ... again - i'm not making excuses for the assailant here nor saying she deserved it ... just asking where she is in acknowledging the fact she got so damn drunk that she couldn't remember a single thing ...

Drinking so much you don't remember shit isn't a felony. Rape is.

polaris_x · June 2016

Gern Blansten said:

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polaris_x said:

Enkidu said:
A friend of a friend just wrote this. https://medium.com/@StefWilliams25/rape-ribeyes-and-the-utter-lack-of-personal-responsibility-5be5f3e61864#.b1n2mnib5
she clearly needs an editor ... like is spell check not available?

in any case - this story is all too familiar ... i do think what's in pandora's box should be discussed but will never be because it's now considered victim-blaming ... but the reality is that there are a multitude of consequences associated with getting that drunk that would have left her crucified by society but because of what happened - it's not being discussed at all ...

before people get bent out of shape ... i don't condone rape or sexual assault of any kind and this asshole clearly did not get a harsh enough sentence ... it's simply that the victim has to hold herself to account ... saying she drank too much not factoring she didn't have the tolerance of when she was in college is her rationalizing her own role in this ... again - i'm not making excuses for the assailant here nor saying she deserved it ... just asking where she is in acknowledging the fact she got so damn drunk that she couldn't remember a single thing ...
Drinking so much you don't remember shit isn't a felony. Rape is.

i'm not saying it is ...

but if she drinks that much and gets in a car - she'd be crucified; if she drinks that much and vandalizes a house - she'd be crucified; if she drinks that much and breaks a leg falling down stairs - no one would have too much sympathy for her ... if any of the above happened - we'd be sitting around discussing how irresponsible she was with her alcohol consumption but we aren't ...

PJ_Soul · June 2016

polaris_x said:

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Gern Blansten said:

polaris_x said:

Enkidu said:
A friend of a friend just wrote this. https://medium.com/@StefWilliams25/rape-ribeyes-and-the-utter-lack-of-personal-responsibility-5be5f3e61864#.b1n2mnib5
she clearly needs an editor ... like is spell check not available?

in any case - this story is all too familiar ... i do think what's in pandora's box should be discussed but will never be because it's now considered victim-blaming ... but the reality is that there are a multitude of consequences associated with getting that drunk that would have left her crucified by society but because of what happened - it's not being discussed at all ...

before people get bent out of shape ... i don't condone rape or sexual assault of any kind and this asshole clearly did not get a harsh enough sentence ... it's simply that the victim has to hold herself to account ... saying she drank too much not factoring she didn't have the tolerance of when she was in college is her rationalizing her own role in this ... again - i'm not making excuses for the assailant here nor saying she deserved it ... just asking where she is in acknowledging the fact she got so damn drunk that she couldn't remember a single thing ...
Drinking so much you don't remember shit isn't a felony. Rape is.
i'm not saying it is ...

but if she drinks that much and gets in a car - she'd be crucified; if she drinks that much and vandalizes a house - she'd be crucified; if she drinks that much and breaks a leg falling down stairs - no one would have too much sympathy for her ... if any of the above happened - we'd be sitting around discussing how irresponsible she was with her alcohol consumption but we aren't ...

And the thing that all of your examples have in common is that no one else attacked her. If someone had PUSHED her down those stairs, I'm pretty sure people would be after the pusher, not the drunk pushee for standing too close to a flight of stairs while wasted.

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