Stanford rapist

Jason P

The judge followed the recommendation of the probation officer:

Monica Lassettre, the probation officer who wrote sentencing recommendations, advised the judge to be lenient partly on the grounds that Mr. Turner was drunk. “This case, when compared to other crimes of similar nature, may be considered less serious due to the defendant’s level of intoxication.”

She recommended four to six months in a county jail, even though Mr. Turner faced a maximum sentence of 14 years in state prison. She also based her recommendation on what she said was his “sincere remorse and empathy for the victim,” and his lack of a prior criminal record.

nytimes.com/2016/06/13/us/brock-turner-stanford-rape.html?_r=0

HughFreakingDillon

Jason P said:

The judge followed the recommendation of the probation officer:

Monica Lassettre, the probation officer who wrote sentencing recommendations, advised the judge to be lenient partly on the grounds that Mr. Turner was drunk. “This case, when compared to other crimes of similar nature, may be considered less serious due to the defendant’s level of intoxication.”

She recommended four to six months in a county jail, even though Mr. Turner faced a maximum sentence of 14 years in state prison. She also based her recommendation on what she said was his “sincere remorse and empathy for the victim,” and his lack of a prior criminal record.

nytimes.com/2016/06/13/us/brock-turner-stanford-rape.html?_r=0

alcohol as a defence/excuse. sickening.

Free

HughFreakingDillon said:

Jason P said:

The judge followed the recommendation of the probation officer:

Monica Lassettre, the probation officer who wrote sentencing recommendations, advised the judge to be lenient partly on the grounds that Mr. Turner was drunk. “This case, when compared to other crimes of similar nature, may be considered less serious due to the defendant’s level of intoxication.”

She recommended four to six months in a county jail, even though Mr. Turner faced a maximum sentence of 14 years in state prison. She also based her recommendation on what she said was his “sincere remorse and empathy for the victim,” and his lack of a prior criminal record.

nytimes.com/2016/06/13/us/brock-turner-stanford-rape.html?_r=0

alcohol as a defence/excuse. sickening.

By a female P.O. no less.

PJ_Soul

HughFreakingDillon said:

Jason P said:

The judge followed the recommendation of the probation officer:

Monica Lassettre, the probation officer who wrote sentencing recommendations, advised the judge to be lenient partly on the grounds that Mr. Turner was drunk. “This case, when compared to other crimes of similar nature, may be considered less serious due to the defendant’s level of intoxication.”

She recommended four to six months in a county jail, even though Mr. Turner faced a maximum sentence of 14 years in state prison. She also based her recommendation on what she said was his “sincere remorse and empathy for the victim,” and his lack of a prior criminal record.

nytimes.com/2016/06/13/us/brock-turner-stanford-rape.html?_r=0

alcohol as a defence/excuse. sickening.

I personally know a guy who was let out of prison super quick for cold-blooded murder for this same reason. He was drunk. After he was released after a short stint in prison, he went on to get drunk and murder another stranger in cold blood in the exact same way. He went to prison for that too.... and is now living free again, happily married. So two unprovoked murders of complete strangers, separate acts (he literally walked into parties, uninvited, and stabbed to death the first person he saw. Twice.), and he got off easy both times because he was drunk (I was friends with him in high school... He was a nice guy with a nice upstanding family. He did have a learning disability but nothing major. You never would have known if you didn't know how he performed in school). So yeah, this "I was drunk" excuse is absolutely sickening, and one that judges apparently believe in.
(I should mention that this murderer's parents are very, very nice people, and that he has two siblings who turned out great... No horrible asshole of a dad behind this one. Although I'm sure the parents tried their best to defend his actions if they were used as character witnesses or something).

Thirty Bills Unpaid

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Jason P said:

The judge followed the recommendation of the probation officer:

Monica Lassettre, the probation officer who wrote sentencing recommendations, advised the judge to be lenient partly on the grounds that Mr. Turner was drunk. “This case, when compared to other crimes of similar nature, may be considered less serious due to the defendant’s level of intoxication.”

She recommended four to six months in a county jail, even though Mr. Turner faced a maximum sentence of 14 years in state prison. She also based her recommendation on what she said was his “sincere remorse and empathy for the victim,” and his lack of a prior criminal record.

nytimes.com/2016/06/13/us/brock-turner-stanford-rape.html?_r=0

alcohol as a defence/excuse. sickening.

I personally know a guy who was let out of prison super quick for cold-blooded murder for this same reason. He was drunk. After he was released after a short stint in prison, he went on to get drunk and murder another stranger in cold blood in the exact same way. He went to prison for that too.... and is now living free again, happily married. So two unprovoked murders of complete strangers, separate acts (he literally walked into parties, uninvited, and stabbed to death the first person he saw. Twice.), and he got off easy both times because he was drunk (I was friends with him in high school... He was a nice guy with a nice upstanding family. He did have a learning disability but nothing major. You never would have known if you didn't know how he performed in school). So yeah, this "I was drunk" excuse is absolutely sickening, and one that judges apparently believe in.
(I should mention that this murderer's parents are very, very nice people, and that he has two siblings who turned out great... No horrible asshole of a dad behind this one. Although I'm sure the parents tried their best to defend his actions if they were used as character witnesses or something).

Are you happy with- what I would consider- this weak response to his brutality?

Weren't you the one telling me that the courts in Canada sentence people very appropriately?

HughFreakingDillon

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Jason P said:

The judge followed the recommendation of the probation officer:

Monica Lassettre, the probation officer who wrote sentencing recommendations, advised the judge to be lenient partly on the grounds that Mr. Turner was drunk. “This case, when compared to other crimes of similar nature, may be considered less serious due to the defendant’s level of intoxication.”

She recommended four to six months in a county jail, even though Mr. Turner faced a maximum sentence of 14 years in state prison. She also based her recommendation on what she said was his “sincere remorse and empathy for the victim,” and his lack of a prior criminal record.

nytimes.com/2016/06/13/us/brock-turner-stanford-rape.html?_r=0

alcohol as a defence/excuse. sickening.

I personally know a guy who was let out of prison super quick for cold-blooded murder for this same reason. He was drunk. After he was released after a short stint in prison, he went on to get drunk and murder another stranger in cold blood in the exact same way. He went to prison for that too.... and is now living free again, happily married. So two unprovoked murders of complete strangers, separate acts (he literally walked into parties, uninvited, and stabbed to death the first person he saw. Twice.), and he got off easy both times because he was drunk (I was friends with him in high school... He was a nice guy with a nice upstanding family. He did have a learning disability but nothing major. You never would have known if you didn't know how he performed in school). So yeah, this "I was drunk" excuse is absolutely sickening, and one that judges apparently believe in.
(I should mention that this murderer's parents are very, very nice people, and that he has two siblings who turned out great... No horrible asshole of a dad behind this one. Although I'm sure the parents tried their best to defend his actions if they were used as character witnesses or something).

Are you happy with- what I would consider- this weak response to his brutality?

Weren't you the one telling me that the courts in Canada sentence people very appropriately?

I can't speak for PJ_Soul, but whenever I speak about the courts and their sentencing practices, I speak on the whole. cherry picking can't make an argument. of course there will always be examples on either end of the spectrum.

HughFreakingDillon

I can see the IDEA behind "well he was drunk", since many people do stupid/out of character things while drunk. However, mentally competent people need to be held accountable for their actions. you CHOSE to get liquored. if you know you are a violent drunk, then don't fucking drink. so to me, the "I was drunk" defence is baseless.

PJ_Soul

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Jason P said:

The judge followed the recommendation of the probation officer:

Monica Lassettre, the probation officer who wrote sentencing recommendations, advised the judge to be lenient partly on the grounds that Mr. Turner was drunk. “This case, when compared to other crimes of similar nature, may be considered less serious due to the defendant’s level of intoxication.”

She recommended four to six months in a county jail, even though Mr. Turner faced a maximum sentence of 14 years in state prison. She also based her recommendation on what she said was his “sincere remorse and empathy for the victim,” and his lack of a prior criminal record.

nytimes.com/2016/06/13/us/brock-turner-stanford-rape.html?_r=0

alcohol as a defence/excuse. sickening.

I personally know a guy who was let out of prison super quick for cold-blooded murder for this same reason. He was drunk. After he was released after a short stint in prison, he went on to get drunk and murder another stranger in cold blood in the exact same way. He went to prison for that too.... and is now living free again, happily married. So two unprovoked murders of complete strangers, separate acts (he literally walked into parties, uninvited, and stabbed to death the first person he saw. Twice.), and he got off easy both times because he was drunk (I was friends with him in high school... He was a nice guy with a nice upstanding family. He did have a learning disability but nothing major. You never would have known if you didn't know how he performed in school). So yeah, this "I was drunk" excuse is absolutely sickening, and one that judges apparently believe in.
(I should mention that this murderer's parents are very, very nice people, and that he has two siblings who turned out great... No horrible asshole of a dad behind this one. Although I'm sure the parents tried their best to defend his actions if they were used as character witnesses or something).

Are you happy with- what I would consider- this weak response to his brutality?

Weren't you the one telling me that the courts in Canada sentence people very appropriately?

No and no. Not sure how you read what I wrote and still had to ask if I am happy with the response. And I absolutely, 100% am NOT of the belief that the Canadian courts sentence people appropriately. On the contrary. Sentences are a fucking JOKE in Canada for the most part when it comes to violent crime and habitual re-offenders. .

Thirty Bills Unpaid

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Jason P said:

The judge followed the recommendation of the probation officer:

Monica Lassettre, the probation officer who wrote sentencing recommendations, advised the judge to be lenient partly on the grounds that Mr. Turner was drunk. “This case, when compared to other crimes of similar nature, may be considered less serious due to the defendant’s level of intoxication.”

She recommended four to six months in a county jail, even though Mr. Turner faced a maximum sentence of 14 years in state prison. She also based her recommendation on what she said was his “sincere remorse and empathy for the victim,” and his lack of a prior criminal record.

nytimes.com/2016/06/13/us/brock-turner-stanford-rape.html?_r=0

alcohol as a defence/excuse. sickening.

I personally know a guy who was let out of prison super quick for cold-blooded murder for this same reason. He was drunk. After he was released after a short stint in prison, he went on to get drunk and murder another stranger in cold blood in the exact same way. He went to prison for that too.... and is now living free again, happily married. So two unprovoked murders of complete strangers, separate acts (he literally walked into parties, uninvited, and stabbed to death the first person he saw. Twice.), and he got off easy both times because he was drunk (I was friends with him in high school... He was a nice guy with a nice upstanding family. He did have a learning disability but nothing major. You never would have known if you didn't know how he performed in school). So yeah, this "I was drunk" excuse is absolutely sickening, and one that judges apparently believe in.
(I should mention that this murderer's parents are very, very nice people, and that he has two siblings who turned out great... No horrible asshole of a dad behind this one. Although I'm sure the parents tried their best to defend his actions if they were used as character witnesses or something).

Are you happy with- what I would consider- this weak response to his brutality?

Weren't you the one telling me that the courts in Canada sentence people very appropriately?

No and no. Not sure how you read what I wrote and still had to ask if I am happy with the response. And I absolutely, 100% am NOT of the belief that the Canadian courts sentence people appropriately. On the contrary. Sentences are a fucking JOKE in Canada for the most part when it comes to violent crime and habitual re-offenders. .

Well in that case... you rock.

mickeyrat

Judge has been recalled....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/06/06/voters-remove-judge-who-sentenced-brock-turner-to-six-months-in-stanford-rape-case/?utm_term=.2ff7978329a2

Thirty Bills Unpaid

mickeyrat said:

Judge has been recalled....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/06/06/voters-remove-judge-who-sentenced-brock-turner-to-six-months-in-stanford-rape-case/?utm_term=.2ff7978329a2

To this statement: His supporters had argued that removing a duly elected judge over disagreement with a controversial but lawful sexual assault sentence would both erode the democratic process and cause judges everywhere to impose lengthier sentences for fear of public backlash.

Well yah.No shit.

PJ_Soul

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mickeyrat said:

Judge has been recalled....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/06/06/voters-remove-judge-who-sentenced-brock-turner-to-six-months-in-stanford-rape-case/?utm_term=.2ff7978329a2

To this statement: His supporters had argued that removing a duly elected judge over disagreement with a controversial but lawful sexual assault sentence would both erode the democratic process and cause judges everywhere to impose lengthier sentences for fear of public backlash.

Well yah.No shit.

Yeah, that's kind of the whole point, lol.

Smellyman

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mickeyrat said:

Judge has been recalled....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/06/06/voters-remove-judge-who-sentenced-brock-turner-to-six-months-in-stanford-rape-case/?utm_term=.2ff7978329a2

To this statement: His supporters had argued that removing a duly elected judge over disagreement with a controversial but lawful sexual assault sentence would both erode the democratic process and cause judges everywhere to impose lengthier sentences for fear of public backlash.

Well yah.No shit.

Not so much give out lengthier sentences because we want it.  We want fair sentencing.  Judge fucked up and paid the price as he should. 

There would be back public backlash if a harsh sentence was given to a BS 'crime' too.

Do your fucking job and you have no need to worry.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

Smellyman said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

mickeyrat said:

Judge has been recalled....

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/06/06/voters-remove-judge-who-sentenced-brock-turner-to-six-months-in-stanford-rape-case/?utm_term=.2ff7978329a2

To this statement: His supporters had argued that removing a duly elected judge over disagreement with a controversial but lawful sexual assault sentence would both erode the democratic process and cause judges everywhere to impose lengthier sentences for fear of public backlash.

Well yah.No shit.

Not so much give out lengthier sentences because we want it.  We want fair sentencing.  Judge fucked up and paid the price as he should. 

There would be back public backlash if a harsh sentence was given to a BS 'crime' too.

Do your fucking job and you have no need to worry.

I'd agree here.

brianlux

Good voting job, Santa Clara County!

mickeyrat

douchefuck lost his appeal

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/09/us/brock-turner-appeal.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur

PJ_Soul

Excellent.

brianlux

Justice done and good! 

But good grief, six months?  They guy got off easy.  In Nevada, the conviction for rape is life in prison with no chance for appeal until the first  ten years has passed.