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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,567
    edited May 2016
    Godfather. said:

    just out of curiosity, fear of what exactly ?

    Godfather.

    Fear of hate , he's full of it unless you haven't been paying attention or you totally agree with the deportation of all illegals , the banning of all Muslims etc etc etc I'm afraid of all his followers that will think it's ok to be racist towards any group that doesn't agree with their messiah ...someone like me I don't agree with any of his rethoric I find him repulsive ....
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    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    is it really all that difficult being a CEO when you surround yourself with folks who will get the job done? maybe them folks are smart, really smart & or they have great work ethic. maybe being POTUS is the same as being CEO of some corporation somewhere. trump isn't stupid. say what you want about the guy, he isn't a stupid guy. dr. ben carson is in... carson isn't a fool nor a clown.
    how fucking difficult can it be?

    i hope the next president never wears a suit but wears cargo shorts & a filthy tshirt fulla holes & has a beard that stinks... invite other leaders to the party & fix this world up nicely. greed is out the door, folks. fancy ass bullshit isn't getting in. let's be real for once! how fucking difficult can it be?


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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    honestly he said not to let any muslims into the country until this is figured out, and deporting illegals seems very fare to me and no I'm not a racist, all one has to do is read the laws for legal entry in the United States and follow accordingly for citizenship.

    in short so far I agree with his ideas.

    Godfather.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    What does Ben Carson bring to the table? He knows nothing about economics or international politics. He brings rigid social conservatism. I'm not sure how he's a plus to the campaign outside of religious conservatives.

    Outside of what Jose outlines, I have a more practical concern with Trump. What he is selling to the right is completely impractical and will damage the economy or us:
    1. Tearing up the trade agreements
    2. Encouraging other countries to go nuclear
    3. Clearing the deficit in 18 months, by defaulting on the debt (fucking horrible idea...the worst)
    4. Building the wall
    5. Exiting NATO
    6. Being more like Putin/Russia

    I can't think of one policy statement that he's said more than once (since he changes his mind all the time) that I can agree with.
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    If it was only that simple GF. I think you know it isnt. I also think you know that he's not pandering to you specifically. It's the racist, homophobe of middle America. It's empowering the idea the white is right. That's scary.
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    i don't know what carson's economics are or what his international politics are. i was just saying he is not a dumb guy
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
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    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,255
    josevolution said:

    Godfather. said:

    just out of curiosity, fear of what exactly ?

    Godfather.

    Fear of hate , he's full of it unless you haven't been paying attention or you totally agree with the deportation of all illegals , the banning of all Muslims etc etc etc I'm afraid of all his followers that will think it's ok to be racist towards any group that doesn't agree with their messiah ...someone like me I don't agree with any of his rethoric I find him repulsive ....
    I get the banning of Muslim issue, but why would it be wrong to deport illegal immigrants? Let me re-phrase that, why would it be an extreme position to deport illegal immigrants? I get why it could seem an impossible task with so many, but enforcing the law of the land shouldn't be seen as extreme or racist when there is a legal immigration process in place. Either we have borders or we don't. Don't pretend that the left cares either. THey want more Democrat voters...
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    edited May 2016
    it probably wouldn't hurt to shut down all immigration for awhile. things need reworked, redone, ironed out & figured out. please press pause & reboot please press pause & reboot please press pause & reboot please press pause & reboot please press pause & reboot please press pause & reboot please press pause & reboot please press pause & reboot please press pause & reboot

    it seems life is like a nonstop nascar race X E=MC^2(9876541234567754533)7^6
    like what the fuck is going on? it isn't just america. shit has gotten out of hand all around the world. it is terrible & sad a shit
    Post edited by chadwick on
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    bootlegger10 said:

    josevolution said:

    Godfather. said:

    just out of curiosity, fear of what exactly ?

    Godfather.

    Fear of hate , he's full of it unless you haven't been paying attention or you totally agree with the deportation of all illegals , the banning of all Muslims etc etc etc I'm afraid of all his followers that will think it's ok to be racist towards any group that doesn't agree with their messiah ...someone like me I don't agree with any of his rethoric I find him repulsive ....
    I get the banning of Muslim issue, but why would it be wrong to deport illegal immigrants? Let me re-phrase that, why would it be an extreme position to deport illegal immigrants? I get why it could seem an impossible task with so many, but enforcing the law of the land shouldn't be seen as extreme or racist when there is a legal immigration process in place. Either we have borders or we don't. Don't pretend that the left cares either. THey want more Democrat voters...
    The issue is the practicality, less the righteousness of it.
    1. There are 80k children born to illegals each year. Birthright citizenship is well established. Do you deport US citizens with their parents or create 80k orphans per year?
    2. Each 'illegal' is still entitled to a hearing/due process to prove they are citizens. Think of the cost.
    3. A new police force will need to be established to round them up, detain them and set them up for their court date. Think of the cost.

    A pathway to citizenship is much more cost effective, humane, rational.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    chadwick said:

    i don't know what carson's economics are or what his international politics are. i was just saying he is not a dumb guy

    Fine.. Surgeon General. I'm fine with that...so long as he isn't anti-legalization.
  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    surgeon general it is. that is actually a good idea. at least it sounds good. i guess we'll see
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Most of the terrorists attacks in this country over the last 10 years were American. Home grown. How will shutting down all immigration stop terrorism?
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  • chadwick
    chadwick up my ass Posts: 21,157
    gotta take care of us first before we can take care of others. & i do want to help anyone who needs help. shit is baffling & terrible. there will always be radicals born & raised right here. bunch of clowns. the brakes gotta come on & quick. this country & many other countries are speeding into a brick wall. it isn't pretty. we all need to be better, each of us. that's how i feel.
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."
    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Degeneratefk said:

    Most of the terrorists attacks in this country over the last 10 years were American. Home grown. How will shutting down all immigration stop terrorism?

    I have a feeling that most of those were people who obtained legal citizenship or were here illegally or were ISIS sympathizers of middle eastern origin, no offense but that home grown terrorist thing is a little misunderstood in my opinion. it's the back-lash of easy entry into our country for all these years.

    Godfather.

  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Godfather. said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    Most of the terrorists attacks in this country over the last 10 years were American. Home grown. How will shutting down all immigration stop terrorism?

    I have a feeling that most of those were people who obtained legal citizenship or were here illegally or were ISIS sympathizers of middle eastern origin, no offense but that home grown terrorist thing is a little misunderstood in my opinion. it's the back-lash of easy entry into our country for all these years.

    Godfather.

    How so? What's misunderstood? Timothy McVeigh isn't a terrorist? He wasn't a Muslim sympathizer so he doesn't count? Dylan Roof isn't a terrorist because he didn't walk into that church screaming Allah akbar or whatever it is they say?
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    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    Degeneratefk said:

    Godfather. said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    Most of the terrorists attacks in this country over the last 10 years were American. Home grown. How will shutting down all immigration stop terrorism?

    I have a feeling that most of those were people who obtained legal citizenship or were here illegally or were ISIS sympathizers of middle eastern origin, no offense but that home grown terrorist thing is a little misunderstood in my opinion. it's the back-lash of easy entry into our country for all these years.

    Godfather.

    How so? What's misunderstood? Timothy McVeigh isn't a terrorist? He wasn't a Muslim sympathizer so he doesn't count? Dylan Roof isn't a terrorist because he didn't walk into that church screaming Allah akbar or whatever it is they say?
    simply put, the bigger problem with terrorism has been muslims, yes America has it's own problems with it terrorist but the biggest problem facing national security has been muslim people attacking with ISIS beliefs....and that's on a world stage.
    with all the death and distruction they have caused globally I think that tossing out the "what about American terrorist" is just making excuses for a vile and disgusting group of people that hate American to start with.

    and T. McVeigh was put to death by the American people and where is Dylan Roof right now ?


    Godfather.

  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Godfather. said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    Godfather. said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    Most of the terrorists attacks in this country over the last 10 years were American. Home grown. How will shutting down all immigration stop terrorism?

    I have a feeling that most of those were people who obtained legal citizenship or were here illegally or were ISIS sympathizers of middle eastern origin, no offense but that home grown terrorist thing is a little misunderstood in my opinion. it's the back-lash of easy entry into our country for all these years.

    Godfather.

    How so? What's misunderstood? Timothy McVeigh isn't a terrorist? He wasn't a Muslim sympathizer so he doesn't count? Dylan Roof isn't a terrorist because he didn't walk into that church screaming Allah akbar or whatever it is they say?
    simply put, the bigger problem with terrorism has been muslims, yes America has it's own problems with it terrorist but the biggest problem facing national security has been muslim people attacking with ISIS beliefs....and that's on a world stage.
    with all the death and distruction they have caused globally I think that tossing out the "what about American terrorist" is just making excuses for a vile and disgusting group of people that hate American to start with.

    and T. McVeigh was put to death by the American people and where is Dylan Roof right now ?


    Godfather.

    Bad news GF.. the Muslim thing was only a 'suggestion' by Trump. He's already trying to back away from the crazy ass shit he said to win the nomination. What's next?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/trump-muslim-ban-was-just-a-suggestion-223102
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    Godfather. said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    Godfather. said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    Most of the terrorists attacks in this country over the last 10 years were American. Home grown. How will shutting down all immigration stop terrorism?

    I have a feeling that most of those were people who obtained legal citizenship or were here illegally or were ISIS sympathizers of middle eastern origin, no offense but that home grown terrorist thing is a little misunderstood in my opinion. it's the back-lash of easy entry into our country for all these years.

    Godfather.

    How so? What's misunderstood? Timothy McVeigh isn't a terrorist? He wasn't a Muslim sympathizer so he doesn't count? Dylan Roof isn't a terrorist because he didn't walk into that church screaming Allah akbar or whatever it is they say?
    simply put, the bigger problem with terrorism has been muslims, yes America has it's own problems with it terrorist but the biggest problem facing national security has been muslim people attacking with ISIS beliefs....and that's on a world stage.
    with all the death and distruction they have caused globally I think that tossing out the "what about American terrorist" is just making excuses for a vile and disgusting group of people that hate American to start with.

    and T. McVeigh was put to death by the American people and where is Dylan Roof right now ?


    Godfather.

    Bigger problems with Muslims being terrorists here in America? That simply is NOT accurate. That's the fear the donald is instilling in you. And exactly what I was referring to a few posts earlier.
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  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    mrussel1 said:

    Godfather. said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    Godfather. said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    Most of the terrorists attacks in this country over the last 10 years were American. Home grown. How will shutting down all immigration stop terrorism?

    I have a feeling that most of those were people who obtained legal citizenship or were here illegally or were ISIS sympathizers of middle eastern origin, no offense but that home grown terrorist thing is a little misunderstood in my opinion. it's the back-lash of easy entry into our country for all these years.

    Godfather.

    How so? What's misunderstood? Timothy McVeigh isn't a terrorist? He wasn't a Muslim sympathizer so he doesn't count? Dylan Roof isn't a terrorist because he didn't walk into that church screaming Allah akbar or whatever it is they say?
    simply put, the bigger problem with terrorism has been muslims, yes America has it's own problems with it terrorist but the biggest problem facing national security has been muslim people attacking with ISIS beliefs....and that's on a world stage.
    with all the death and distruction they have caused globally I think that tossing out the "what about American terrorist" is just making excuses for a vile and disgusting group of people that hate American to start with.

    and T. McVeigh was put to death by the American people and where is Dylan Roof right now ?


    Godfather.

    Bad news GF.. the Muslim thing was only a 'suggestion' by Trump. He's already trying to back away from the crazy ass shit he said to win the nomination. What's next?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/trump-muslim-ban-was-just-a-suggestion-223102
    yea, who knows ? I see this election getting real crazy..to be honest with you, if the government is half as corrupt as we(American people) think it is then that bag of gut's Hell'ary will be president and if that happens you'll know who controls America.

    Godfather.

  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,172
    Godfather. said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Godfather. said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    Godfather. said:

    Degeneratefk said:

    Most of the terrorists attacks in this country over the last 10 years were American. Home grown. How will shutting down all immigration stop terrorism?

    I have a feeling that most of those were people who obtained legal citizenship or were here illegally or were ISIS sympathizers of middle eastern origin, no offense but that home grown terrorist thing is a little misunderstood in my opinion. it's the back-lash of easy entry into our country for all these years.

    Godfather.

    How so? What's misunderstood? Timothy McVeigh isn't a terrorist? He wasn't a Muslim sympathizer so he doesn't count? Dylan Roof isn't a terrorist because he didn't walk into that church screaming Allah akbar or whatever it is they say?
    simply put, the bigger problem with terrorism has been muslims, yes America has it's own problems with it terrorist but the biggest problem facing national security has been muslim people attacking with ISIS beliefs....and that's on a world stage.
    with all the death and distruction they have caused globally I think that tossing out the "what about American terrorist" is just making excuses for a vile and disgusting group of people that hate American to start with.

    and T. McVeigh was put to death by the American people and where is Dylan Roof right now ?


    Godfather.

    Bad news GF.. the Muslim thing was only a 'suggestion' by Trump. He's already trying to back away from the crazy ass shit he said to win the nomination. What's next?

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/trump-muslim-ban-was-just-a-suggestion-223102
    yea, who knows ? I see this election getting real crazy..to be honest with you, if the government is half as corrupt as we(American people) think it is then that bag of gut's Hell'ary will be president and if that happens you'll know who controls America.

    Godfather.

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